LION v Handorf Sat Div 3 1st v 2nd

[lionman]

Translation: I have nothing to support my argument.

Section 38 off the league rules on SAASL website
NOBHEAD!

[Dad's Army]

Just one flaw with that argument: The rules weren't amended, just ignored.
Otherwise we'd have a new set of rules to cover this situation (which we don't).

[lionman]

Just one flaw with that argument: The rules weren't amended, just ignored.
Otherwise we'd have a new set of rules to cover this situation (which we don't).

These rules are there to give the league structure, but are only guidelines hence they can be altered or changed by the management commitee, which basically means they can still do what the like, which is what i have said!

[Dad's Army]

they can be altered or changed by the management commitee

You show me where they have been altered or changed.
I'm saying they haven't been, just overlooked.

[Redders]

Get over it now, it's done.

We are 7 Rounds in and Lion are finally showing why they were put into DIV 3.

6-0 winners against the top side, seems pretty convincing to me.

[Dad's Army]

No one has actually shown why.

[Redders]

The result on Saturday says why. You're a smart man Bodo I'm sure you can work it out.

Why do the Gold Coast (AFL) get to choose from the best 18 youngsters in the land? Why is the AFL administration paying players like Israel Falau and Karmichael Hunt outside of the salary cap. Is it ethical? Probably not. Is it going to benefit or create intrest in the league? I'd probably say so.

The SAASL has it reasons behind what it has done. Just like in the AFL, there is going to be contrasting views on whether it's right or wrong.

The decision has been made now, let's move on.

[Dad's Army]

The result on Saturday says why.

So with that logic your result against Allstars United should render you being overlooked for promotion for division two at the end of the season because that result suggests you're not up for it. :?

[Cocko]

The result on Saturday says why.

So with that logic your result against Allstars United should render you being overlooked for promotion for division two at the end of the season because that result suggests you're not up for it. :?

So for the same reasons you are good you are also shite :?

[BPBC]

Why do the Gold Coast (AFL) get to choose from the best 18 youngsters in the land? Why is the AFL administration paying players like Israel Falau and Karmichael Hunt outside of the salary cap. Is it ethical? Probably not. Is it going to benefit or create intrest in the league? I'd probably say so.

I'd imagine the gold coast paid some sort of license fee, are doing their time in a reserves comp, and have been provided trade choices to ensure they meet a certain standard

The SAASL has it reasons behind what it has done.

Really? Your obvioulsy more in the know than all other clubs, please advise what these are. Would probably go a long way in clearing the air on what has seemed very dodgy decisions

[Dad's Army]

The result on Saturday says why.

So with that logic your result against Allstars United should render you being overlooked for promotion for division two at the end of the season because that result suggests you're not up for it. :?

So for the same reasons you are good you are also shite :?

I'm not the one trying to use one result to justify a dodgy decision, I'm just saying that logic can be used both ways.

[Token]

Wow 6-0 to the lions. Were USC that good or did Handorf have issues?

[Chelsea4thewin]

Wow 6-0 to the lions. Were USC that good or did Handorf have issues?

i reckon there must of been issues

USC have struggled against a few teams this season

[lionman]

The result on Saturday says why.

So with that logic your result against Allstars United should render you being overlooked for promotion for division two at the end of the season because that result suggests you're not up for it. :?

Against Allstars (cup game rested players) we started with 7 b players due to injuries and unavailables, against Handorf we had all available for first time and it showed, asked Handorf captain and he said they were at full strength, the score problably flatters them if anything, could of been 9 or 10.
Dont care anymore its all history, focused on the next game.
Maybe you should do the same Bodo

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

I really cant see the issue here.

USC Lion strengthens the Saturday competitions.

[Kitchimo]

I really cant see the issue here.

USC Lion strengthens the Saturday competitions.

That's not in dispute.

The issue is that USC Lion (and Port Pirie) were granted a spot in a higher division as opposed to 'working their way from the bottom', which is how the SAASL have governed movement of clubs from Sunday to Saturday in the past years (ie Adelaide Villa in 2007, Salisbury Villa in 2008, Adelaide Pumas and Simba of Congo in 2009) and the commencement of new clubs in the Sunday competitions (ie Western Strikers in 2009).

Yes, their league results suggest that they belong in Division 3 as a minimum, or perhaps even a higher division (could they be competitive in Division 1? Probably). But their relative strength should be besides the point (ie when Adelaide Villa were smashing teams 22-0 in 2007). No-one (well I am certainly not) is having a go at the relevant club/clubs here. It is (in my opinion) a management decision made by the SAASL which lets down the teams in Saturday Divisions 3 and 4 and Sunday Divisions 2 and 3. The clubs can only play where they are placed.

[lionman]

I really cant see the issue here.

USC Lion strengthens the Saturday competitions.

That's not in dispute.

The issue is that USC Lion (and Port Pirie) were granted a spot in a higher division as opposed to 'working their way from the bottom', which is how the SAASL have governed movement of clubs from Sunday to Saturday in the past years (ie Adelaide Villa in 2007, Salisbury Villa in 2008, Adelaide Pumas and Simba of Congo in 2009) and the commencement of new clubs in the Sunday competitions (ie Western Strikers in 2009).

Yes, their league results suggest that they belong in Division 3 as a minimum, or perhaps even a higher division (could they be competitive in Division 1? Probably). But their relative strength should be besides the point (ie when Adelaide Villa were smashing teams 22-0 in 2007). No-one (well I am certainly not) is having a go at the relevant club/clubs here. It is (in my opinion) a management decision made by the SAASL which lets down the teams in Saturday Divisions 3 and 4 and Sunday Divisions 2 and 3. The clubs can only play where they are placed.

I played in that 22-0 game you are referring to for villa, that game was actually only 80 minutes, think i got 11, anyway if you think it is letting other teams down by getting hammered everyweek if we were in there then i dont see your logic Think logic has prevailed , as it should in the future
It is no good for either side with these cricket scores, both teams end up losing players, morale is bad for the losing side, you show me the benefits for either side

[Crocodiles]

Your logic fails in that there is no guarantee that lion would smash everyone in division four if they had been put in the correct division.

[lionman]

Your logic fails in that there is no guarantee that lion would smash everyone in division four if they had been put in the correct division.

Yeh your right you win

[Redders]

The result on Saturday says why.

So with that logic your result against Allstars United should render you being overlooked for promotion for division two at the end of the season because that result suggests you're not up for it. :?

Wow!! Our reserve side got beaten 4-1 by a top Saturday Division 2 side. The fact that we are 2nd in the league, just beat the top team 6-0 and have been far from full strength most of the year, indicates the to me we were put in the correct division. It is obvious a deal has been brokered between two clubs in order to accomodate a club from a rival association. Why can't you accept that and move on?

If Adelaide City decided they wanted to move from the FFSA to the Amatuer league. You'd play them in the bottom division? Out of principle? Haha crazy. Maybe the league learnt a thing or two when Villa hammered sides 22-0 in 80mins. To me common sense has prevailed, to you it's the worlds greatest injustice.

PS. Kitchimo, Keep the karma comments up. It is only serving as motivation.

[Dad's Army]

If Adelaide City decided they wanted to move from the FFSA to the Amatuer league. You'd play them in the bottom division?

Insert any club you like but yes.

[Kitchimo]

PS. Kitchimo, Keep the karma comments up. It is only serving as motivation.

Happy to help. As PPG said a strong USC Lion is good for the Saturday divisions

[BPBC]

. It is obvious a deal has been brokered between two clubs in order to accomodate a club from a rival association.

And thats the problem. Every club in the saasl is a paying member and has a right to know and have a say. Golden handshakes and backdoor deal brokering is very very dodgy and poor form. People are finding it hard to accept and move on for this exact reason. How much other scheming goes on behind those closed doors which we are unaware of?

[thepetulantmagpie]

Wow 6-0 to the lions. Were USC that good or did Handorf have issues?

Hahndorf didn't play well, but Lion were well fired up for the match, we pretty much gave two goals away and the two volleys from Lion were very, very good. The last goal would be close to the best I've seen at this level.
The match report from Hahndorf's perspective is here:http://petulantmagpie.blogspot.com/

[Cocko]

Is Eddie K still playin at Hahndorf?

[greedy]

USC Lion V Hahndorf

Hahndorf suffered their first defeat of the season following a disappointing second half display, conceding 6 goals to nil against an organised and well-drilled USC Lion side for the 7th round of the South Australian Amateur Soccer League 3rd Division.

Playing into a stiff breeze, the Magpies fielded a team with Nathaniel Brooke in goal behind a defensive line of Steve Noble, Jon Lynn, Luke Guest and Scott Taylor. The opening ten minutes saw Hahndorf make most of the possession through midfielders Aaron Noble, Leo Santangelo, Jack Farrimond and Dan Holland, linking up with front men Kayne Stubing and Matt Norris.

Despite their early forays forward, Hahndorf could not produce a clear chance on goal and it was USC Lion who broke through, almost against the run of play, to put the hosts up 1-0 after fifteen minutes.

The Magpies responded through Taylor and Stubing, the fleet-footed player dashing into the penalty area and forcing the Lion ‘keeper to beat the shot away. Guest rose to meet the resultant corner kick but could not find the target with his head.

Norris, A.Noble and Farrimond combined to send Santangelo through with a well-weighted pass but the home goalkeeper was up to the task and held Santangelo’s fierce drive. Hahndorf tried again through Stubing, a solo run eluding most but the finish was not as precise and again the Lion ‘keeper was to deny the Magpies.

Lion were beginning to warm to the match and Hahndorf could have been two goals down but for a great save by Brooke, repelling a rasping drive from the home striker. The battle for the midfield was fierce, neither team given much time on the ball but the Magpies failed to capitalise on their pressure during the half. A good build up presented Norris with a chance but the Lion custodian palmed away his effort to leave Hahndorf trailing 1-0 at half time.

The Magpies got off to a poor start in the second half when USC Lion scored their second goal soon after resumption of play, a stray disposal from Brooke returned with interest. Hahndorf almost replied through Stubing, but he stuck his shot over the bar after a fine run and cross from Holland.

Hahndorf pressed forward searching for a goal but found the Lion defence in a miserly mood and the visitors were saved when Lion found the net after a fast break, only for the goal to be ruled out for offside.

Making his return after an injury, Tom Holland was brought on to add impetus to Hahndorf’ effort but this was thwarted by Lion’s 3rd goal, a volley to the corner leaving Brooke no chance.

Hahndorf tried to respond but could not find the breakthrough they desired, the host side determined not to let the Magpies into the match. Pressure from Lion forced their 4th goal, a strong block by Brooke was not cleared and Lion eventually bundled the ball in.

A free kick summed up Hahndorf’s day, the opportunity not finding the target to the frustration of the Hills team. Lion countered with a fast break and their 5th goal as the Magpies continued to make little impression in the attacking third.

Hahndorf persisted however and were unlucky after Norris headed wide after a great cross from D.Holland found the club stalwart in a good position. Lion ended the pain for Hahndorf with a stunning strike from distance, the volley finding the top corner to seal a comprehensive win in which Hahndorf faded during the second half and were largely outplayed.

It was really interesting what you had to say about the match. In the previous weeks before we played Hanhndorf, you guys beat McClaren Flat 9-0, we beat them 3-2 and we played shocking, but Mclaren Flat played well. We trained hard and in the game we played even harder. Fair enough to Hahndorf the played good in small doses, but I was expecting 11 steven gerrards, unfortunately only 11 Emile Heskeys turned up. Hahndorf were slow, fat and lost every 50/50 and this was because of the will of the USC lions. So read betweenthelions, the mighty mighty Lions. The sideline banter at grange was quite amusing at times but in my opinion went a little overboard. I'm really looking forward to game at your ground, because im a pom and I have not been to the hahndorf pubs. So show me around and lets get pissed and both get promoted, FUCK THE PUMAS, MONARCHS AND FALCONS.

PS. I LOVE ENGLAND

[greedy]

hahaha

So Lion are at home in the A's whilst the reserves are away... sounds strange to me.

[AssistantCoach]

USC Lion V Hahndorf

Hahndorf suffered their first defeat of the season following a disappointing second half display, conceding 6 goals to nil against an organised and well-drilled USC Lion side for the 7th round of the South Australian Amateur Soccer League 3rd Division.

Playing into a stiff breeze, the Magpies fielded a team with Nathaniel Brooke in goal behind a defensive line of Steve Noble, Jon Lynn, Luke Guest and Scott Taylor. The opening ten minutes saw Hahndorf make most of the possession through midfielders Aaron Noble, Leo Santangelo, Jack Farrimond and Dan Holland, linking up with front men Kayne Stubing and Matt Norris.

Despite their early forays forward, Hahndorf could not produce a clear chance on goal and it was USC Lion who broke through, almost against the run of play, to put the hosts up 1-0 after fifteen minutes.

The Magpies responded through Taylor and Stubing, the fleet-footed player dashing into the penalty area and forcing the Lion ‘keeper to beat the shot away. Guest rose to meet the resultant corner kick but could not find the target with his head.

Norris, A.Noble and Farrimond combined to send Santangelo through with a well-weighted pass but the home goalkeeper was up to the task and held Santangelo’s fierce drive. Hahndorf tried again through Stubing, a solo run eluding most but the finish was not as precise and again the Lion ‘keeper was to deny the Magpies.

Lion were beginning to warm to the match and Hahndorf could have been two goals down but for a great save by Brooke, repelling a rasping drive from the home striker. The battle for the midfield was fierce, neither team given much time on the ball but the Magpies failed to capitalise on their pressure during the half. A good build up presented Norris with a chance but the Lion custodian palmed away his effort to leave Hahndorf trailing 1-0 at half time.

The Magpies got off to a poor start in the second half when USC Lion scored their second goal soon after resumption of play, a stray disposal from Brooke returned with interest. Hahndorf almost replied through Stubing, but he stuck his shot over the bar after a fine run and cross from Holland.

Hahndorf pressed forward searching for a goal but found the Lion defence in a miserly mood and the visitors were saved when Lion found the net after a fast break, only for the goal to be ruled out for offside.

Making his return after an injury, Tom Holland was brought on to add impetus to Hahndorf’ effort but this was thwarted by Lion’s 3rd goal, a volley to the corner leaving Brooke no chance.

Hahndorf tried to respond but could not find the breakthrough they desired, the host side determined not to let the Magpies into the match. Pressure from Lion forced their 4th goal, a strong block by Brooke was not cleared and Lion eventually bundled the ball in.

A free kick summed up Hahndorf’s day, the opportunity not finding the target to the frustration of the Hills team. Lion countered with a fast break and their 5th goal as the Magpies continued to make little impression in the attacking third.

Hahndorf persisted however and were unlucky after Norris headed wide after a great cross from D.Holland found the club stalwart in a good position. Lion ended the pain for Hahndorf with a stunning strike from distance, the volley finding the top corner to seal a comprehensive win in which Hahndorf faded during the second half and were largely outplayed.

It was really interesting what you had to say about the match. In the previous weeks before we played Hanhndorf, you guys beat McClaren Flat 9-0, we beat them 3-2 and we played shocking, but Mclaren Flat played well. We trained hard and in the game we played even harder. Fair enough to Hahndorf the played good in small doses, but I was expecting 11 steven gerrards, unfortunately only 11 Emile Heskeys turned up. Hahndorf were slow, fat and lost every 50/50 and this was because of the will of the USC lions. So read betweenthelions, the mighty mighty Lions. The sideline banter at grange was quite amusing at times but in my opinion went a little overboard. I'm really looking forward to game at your ground, because im a pom and I have not been to the hahndorf pubs. So show me around and lets get pissed and both get promoted, shiraz THE PUMAS, MONARCHS AND FALCONS.

PS. I LOVE ENGLAND

bit harsh to be calling the team fat and slow. lion have their share of fat and slow players. i agree the banter on the sidelines was overboard but there is no rule against it. i heard some of the things that were said and to me it was very poor sportsman ship and showed immaturity. but you get that at the top level in football, just never experienced it in local leagues or even at adelaide united. i think lions and hahndorf will get promoted but i reckon it will come down to when the teams play each other to decide the title.

[Redders]

Haha, I think you should take that post with a pinch of salt. It was one of the boys after a big weekend on the sauce.

As for the banter, it was over the top at times. But once you've played against the Downs or the Vale it wouldn't feel so bad

[Randoman]

bit harsh to be calling the team fat and slow.

Only the defence is fat and slow