Club Referees

[Gunnersfan]

For those who thought that the ACU club ref was bad, wait till you play Bridge at home...I dont even know where to start. Its like the guy has never seen a soccer match in his life!! Firstly, he stands on average about 50-60 metres from where the ball is, he calls fouls for shielding the ball, he called 2 indirect free kicks inside the box, 1 of which he called because the ACU goalkeeper came out and collected the ball without calling out "keepers" , he calls offside when the player that is offside is no where near the ball and consequently disallowing a goal. Not to mention I was told off by one of their club marshalls not to say "Jesus Christ" because thats swearing and there were "women and children around".

I seriously think that the League should send someone out to go watch this guy ref...he is absolutley clueless!

[Club Referee]

Its like the guy has never seen a soccer match in his life!!

This is a football forum.

he calls fouls for shielding the ball

If you don't actually play or make an attempt to play the ball that would be correct.

which he called because the ACU goalkeeper came out and collected the ball without calling out "keepers"

Did the keeper call anything like "leave it" or "mine"? If so he should be calling a name or keeper's.

he calls offside when the player that is offside is no where near the ball and consequently disallowing a goal.

Players who are offside are not usually near the ball when it is kicked

Not to mention I was told off by one of their club marshalls not to say "Jesus Christ" because thats swearing and there were "women and children around".

I'll agree with you on this, I wouldn't make an issue of that.

I seriously think that the League should send someone out to go watch this guy ref...he is absolutley clueless!

How about you do the course and referee the return match?

[Right Back]

Its like the guy has never seen a soccer match in his life!!

This is a football forum.

he calls fouls for shielding the ball

If you don't actually play or make an attempt to play the ball that would be correct.

which he called because the ACU goalkeeper came out and collected the ball without calling out "keepers"

Did the keeper call anything like "leave it" or "mine"? If so he should be calling a name or keeper's.

he calls offside when the player that is offside is no where near the ball and consequently disallowing a goal.

Players who are offside are not usually near the ball when it is kicked

Not to mention I was told off by one of their club marshalls not to say "Jesus Christ" because thats swearing and there were "women and children around".

I'll agree with you on this, I wouldn't make an issue of that.

I seriously think that the League should send someone out to go watch this guy ref...he is absolutley clueless!

How about you do the course and referee the return match?

If Gunnersfan is who I think he then he is a qualified ref and cant do the return match becuase he's our bl**dy coach?

And in response to the offside player was not near the ball, what happened was a free kick was taken from the left wing that was "miss hit" and went in for a goal, the fact that we had a player in a offside position is irrelevant given he was nowhere near the ball or goals therefore was not interfering with play, therefore the goal should have stood!

[Chelsea4thewin]

haha, its a bit rich if its coming from someone at ACU Falcons

we had the murray bridge ref last year, he was not the best but he was no where near the embarrassment of the ACU falcons who pretty much didnt know the rules of the game, i dont even think he spoke english because he wouldnt explain any of his decisions

but you will never get a perfect home referee, its a shame but its ametuer league so if you want to get a fair ref you need to play in the first team, simple as that

[guti]

The last three 'qualified' refs we have had in the A Grade have ignored the passive offside rule.

[Passive Offside]

At the end of the day almost any decision made by a referee or linesman is going to be contested by someone. Creating an account on this forum with the sole person of dissing a referee isn't going to solve anything. If a referee makes a bad call htfu and deal with it.

[Chelsea4thewin]

At the end of the day almost any decision made by a referee or linesman is going to be contested by someone. Creating an account on this forum with the sole person of dissing a referee isn't going to solve anything. If a referee makes a bad call htfu and deal with it.

yes i note your post but when a referee cheats you time and time again, gives red cards for no reasons and pretty much gives every decision to the home team, you dont enjoy the game and that leads to anger for people with a short fuse

but ACU falcons complaining about a ref is very rich

[Right Back]

At the end of the day almost any decision made by a referee or linesman is going to be contested by someone. Creating an account on this forum with the sole person of dissing a referee isn't going to solve anything. If a referee makes a bad call htfu and deal with it.

yes i note your post but when a referee cheats you time and time again, gives red cards for no reasons and pretty much gives every decision to the home team, you dont enjoy the game and that leads to anger for people with a short fuse

but ACU falcons complaining about a ref is very rich

I thought we went over this already!!!

I admitted our club ref is less than perfect but that doesnt mean we cant make a statement about another ref, especially when a goal is disallowed due to "passive offside"......

[Jean Claude]

which he called because the ACU goalkeeper came out and collected the ball without calling out "keepers"

Did the keeper call anything like "leave it" or "mine"? If so he should be calling a name or keeper's.

I thought you could only be penalised for calling 'leave it' or 'mine' if you have opposition in direct vicinty challenging the ball? Is this right?

[cannavaronesta]

seriously! div 4 this year

try Polonia home ref ! wears official uniform and presents a solid respectful "i know how to ref", then if things don’t get well for the team utter BS cheating. How many 2nd half throws does it take to score - here ill help you find out! ill keep giving my team ( polonia ) the decision even if it clearly is seen by even his own linesman - he overrules it !! they wonder why crowd goes nuts... 15 blatant cheats 10 offside questioning to trick the linesman into pointing to the wrong player and countless falling over when no one is even near !

offside the guy has no idea or if he has its here ill make sure the opposition never gets past the 1/2 hay line! and worse still the amount of free kicks he will give to score ..

Vietnamese - the guy needs some idea of rules, asking what the foul was he wouldn’t answer only its a foul, even his own team were wondering what for ?

SAASL need to check on these guys and make sure they are doing the right thing, introduce some accountability and help these people be better FAIR judges on the park, there is home ground advantage and then there is HOME GROUND advantage.

its not hard for SAASL to check on problem teams and warn them ... this way if they get caught making blantant decisions then they forfiet the game , simple , effective and places some onnus onto the home team to be fair - losses are acceptable and bad decisions( everyone makes mistakes) BUT CHEATING is just a downright game destroyer

[guti]

The solution is simple and I've explained it before.

[Chelsea4thewin]

The solution is simple and I've explained it before.

play first team football?

[guti]

Yes, that!

Other options need to be explored. The club referee program is clearly not working in terms of quality of refereeing, and this in turn creates perceptions of bias amongst opposition supporters and officials looking for excuses as to why their team lost or performed poorly.

[tickets4cheese]

do we really need a forum topic to bag out volunteer club refs, isn't there a shortage of refs as it is? i'd rather have a bad/cheating ref than no ref at all and not be able to play. no matter how much a ref cheats it would be hard for them to make a team win the game, if your team is good enough then more times than not you'll still win whether the ref favours the other team or not.

[guti]

do we really need a forum topic to bag out volunteer club refs, isn't there a shortage of refs as it is? i'd rather have a bad/cheating ref than no ref at all and not be able to play. no matter how much a ref cheats it would be hard for them to make a team win the game, if your team is good enough then more times than not you'll still win whether the ref favours the other team or not.

Precisely!

[cannavaronesta]

yes its not about bagging and if you lose , u lose however some incidents and level of fair play is still needed. by placing your head in the sand ! you achieve nothing.. i have the greatest respect for ref's in reserves but they still need to ref the game and provide a fair program for all ...

some tweaking will improve the game and provide accountability

[MATTY6]

Yesterday we experienced probably the worst referee we have had this season, and he was an official ref.
I believe the only way to numb the suspicion of home team refs cheating is by each club's home team ref being sent to alternative ground which I see as being near impossible for someone who is at there respective club to enjoy the day.

By the way we would be happy to have Elizabeth grove's B team ref any day, just not the leagues representative that got paid for his inconsistency in the A's.
But I have to agree with a previous quote "better any ref than no ref at all"

[Hawkesy]

don't get me started on bridge's ref, 2 players sent off up there last year for nothing incidents.

He had a right cry when he came to our place complaining about being called a cheat.

[numéro_octavo]

Most people tend to forget about the refs that do a really good job because it's forgotten about straight away but a bad ref in soccer is like getting a bad beat in poker you'll remember it forever.

I for one think there should be more guidelines with refs as I'm sick of refs chosen by clubs that are way too old and unfit to keep up with play leading to very poor decision making. Sure they know the rules but would be more capable of reffing a televised game in a couch then running along side play. For an accurate call to be made the ref needs to be in close proximity to play. Too many times this season calls are being made from 30 to 40 meters away and are plain wrong. Surely there is an official guideline to how far away a ref should be from the action if anyone knows?

[Hawkesy]

Most people tend to forget about the refs that do a really good job because it's forgotten about straight away

pumas and straph both had good refs last season.

[Bomber]

I dont know how anyone with a conscience could deliberately cheat. Merely shows them as very poor characters and I would not trust anyone as such (my team or otherwise) with anything to do with life in general if I saw them in that light. Plus, they cast a smear on your club. So why persist? Shame that some clubs feel the need to "get even" too. Doesnt help the cause, just makes it worse.

[Token]

Monarchs vs Adelaide Uni in the cup game this year was an official ref and he was so bad it made Howard Webb look good. Gave a free the Uni keeper when it was his team mate that brought him down but on the flip side one our players clearly obstructed the Uni player and yet ref called play on. I swear that ref was watching another game or something.

With club referees, I notice that club refs aren't given a course each to explain possible changes and refresh current rules, is this true?

[Lucky4some]

As a club ref you shouldn't even think about who you are ref'ing and call it as you see it.

[rooboy1986]

Monarchs vs Adelaide Uni in the cup game this year was an official ref and he was so bad it made Howard Webb look good. Gave a free the Uni keeper when it was his team mate that brought him down but on the flip side one our players clearly obstructed the Uni player and yet ref called play on. I swear that ref was watching another game or something.

With club referees, I notice that club refs aren't given a course each to explain possible changes and refresh current rules, is this true?

Ummm, Howard Webb is UKs number 1 ref and will most probably ref the WC GF... i don't get it?

[Stonthialo]

Wait til you meet the Hahndorf C's club ref! He makes the Budapest reserves ref look amazing...

[M160RA]

When I used to watch the "original" Modbury Jets, the club ref was Mr. M. Dollery. he was father to a couple of Jets players. I always thought Morris was impartial to the point of being a percent more favourable to the opposition. Not all club refs are cheats.

[Token]

Monarchs vs Adelaide Uni in the cup game this year was an official ref and he was so bad it made Howard Webb look good. Gave a free the Uni keeper when it was his team mate that brought him down but on the flip side one our players clearly obstructed the Uni player and yet ref called play on. I swear that ref was watching another game or something.

With club referees, I notice that club refs aren't given a course each to explain possible changes and refresh current rules, is this true?

Ummm, Howard Webb is UKs number 1 ref and will most probably ref the WC GF... i don't get it?

Howard Webb has made quite a number of mistakes in various matches that have cost the game for a number of teams. Remember the at the last WC, Poll was considered UK's no.1 ref and look how that turned out.

[Dad's Army]

Howard Webb has made quite a number of mistakes in various matches that have cost the game for a number of teams. Remember the at the last WC, Poll was considered UK's no.1 ref and look how that turned out.

At the end of the day any referee can make a mistake. Deal with it.

[andyb]

should've been at the Vale today watching old Eddie do his thing in the ressies game surely a contender for worst ref

[Token]

Howard Webb has made quite a number of mistakes in various matches that have cost the game for a number of teams. Remember the at the last WC, Poll was considered UK's no.1 ref and look how that turned out.

At the end of the day any referee can make a mistake. Deal with it.

There are mistakes that can be easily made and mistake that occur constantly at the high level.