Messi > Maradona

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Messi > Maradona

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Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b

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how many world cups has Messi won on his own?

I'm not saying either is better. Just saying perhaps that's the way to gauge this.

Would be funny if Maradona's coaching cost them the world cup now, wouldn't it.
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Litmanen wrote:how many world cups has Messi won on his own?

I'm not saying either is better. Just saying perhaps that's the way to gauge this.

Would be funny if Maradona's coaching cost them the world cup now, wouldn't it.
0 so far, but haven't seen Messi cheat to win his honours

I wouldn't gauge it on World Cups; Club sides are better than International sides IMO
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brett wrote:Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b

np
and you are either a) whinging englishman b) bitter englishman c) clueless englishman

and yes i support napoli and if 28 is old, well your right.
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I love my motherland, England. I wish I could go back home, it's too hot here, the women are ugly and the beers are too fucking cold.
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getborn wrote:
brett wrote:Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b

np
and you are either a) whinging englishman b) bitter englishman c) clueless englishman

and yes i support napoli and if 28 is old, well your right.
you are a) wrong b) incorrect c) correct in the negative direction
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look at the team around him

its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
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Chelsea4thewin wrote:look at the team around him

its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
xavi and iniesta didnt play today and he still scored 2 goals :wink:
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brett wrote:I love my motherland, England. I wish I could go back home, it's too hot here, the women are ugly and the beers are too bottle of shiraz cold.
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Chelsea4thewin wrote:look at the team around him

its not really as hard to be dominate if you have perfect passes and chips coming to you from Xavi, Iniesta etc
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agree with brett !! maradona is a fucking cheat bastard !!
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sorry but Diego has won a world cup and was very instrumental in that 86 campaign.

Messi is on his way, but until he performs and wins a world cup, he will always be considered Maradona's under study!
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ruud wrote:
getborn wrote:
brett wrote:Not even up for discussion, just accept it. If you don't accept it, you are either a) old b) support Napoli or c) a+b

np
and you are either a) whinging englishman b) bitter englishman c) clueless englishman

and yes i support napoli and if 28 is old, well your right.
you are a) wrong b) incorrect c) correct in the negative direction

brett is as aussie as VB!
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just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
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Maradona shot the paparazzi with a BB gun and got away with it, legend.
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ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
Yes it does.
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as i said before, messi hasn't done enough yet.
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what quantifies enough?
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LUFC wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
Yes it does.
no football is about team not individual !!!
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The Kop wrote:what quantifies enough?

have we seen him dominate at international level yet?
Things I am owed because they're too tight to pay up:

Colossus: One House

Costa: One Lunch

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LUFC wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
Yes it does.

george weah
ryan giggs
george best

Fantastic footballers, who never even played in a world cup finals tournament. Who's the better player, those guys or Alan Ball?
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Maradona's honours:

Club
Boca Juniors
Primera División: 1981
Barcelona
Copa del Rey: 1983
Copa de la Liga: 1983
Spanish Super Cup: 1983
Napoli
Serie A: 1987, 1990
Coppa Italia: 1987
UEFA Cup: 1989
Italian Super Cup: 1990
Country
Argentina

FIFA World Youth Championship: 1979
FIFA World Cup:
Winner: 1986
Runner-up: 1990
Artemio Franchi Trophy: 1993
75th anniversary FIFA Cup: 1979

Individual
Golden Ball for Best Player of the FIFA U-20 World Cup: 1979
Argentine league Top Scorer: 1979, 1980, 1981
Argentine Football Writers' Footballer of the Year: 1979, 1980, 1981, 1986
South American Footballer of the Year (El Mundo, Caracas):1979, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1992
Italian Guerin d'Oro: 1985
Argentine Sports Writers' Sportsman of the Year: 1986
Golden Ball for Best Player of the FIFA World Cup: 1986
Best Footballer in the World Onze d'Or: 1986, 1987
World Player of the Year (World Soccer Magazine): 1986
Capocannoniere (Serie A top scorer): 1987-88
Golden Ball for services to football (France Football): 1996
Argentine Sports Writers' Sportsman of the Century: 1999
"FIFA Goal of the Century" (1986 (2–1) v. England; second goal): 2002
Argentine Senate "Domingo Faustino Sarmiento" recognition for lifetime achievement:

Messi's Honours

Barcelona
La Liga: 4
2005, 2006, 2009, 2010
Copa del Rey: 1
2009
Supercopa de España: 3
2005, 2006, 2009
UEFA Champions League: 2
2006, 2009
UEFA Super Cup: 1
2009
FIFA Club World Cup: 1
2009

International
FIFA U-20 World Cup: 1
2005
Olympic Gold Medal: 1
2008

Individual
FIFA U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer: 1
2005
FIFA U-20 World Cup Player of the Tournament: 1
2005
Copa América Young Player of the Tournament: 1
2007
U-21 European Footballer of the Year: 1
2007
FIFA World Player of the Year: 1
2009
FIFA Team of the Year: 2
2008, 2009
European Footballer of the Year: 1
2009
Onze d'Or: 1
2009
European Golden Boot: 1
2010
UEFA Champions League Player of the Year: 1
2009
UEFA Champions League Forward of the Year: 1
2009
UEFA Champions League Top Goalscorer: 1
2009
UEFA Team of the Year: 2
2008, 2009
La Liga Player of the Year: 1
2009
La Liga Top Goalscorer: 1
2010
Best Foreign Player in La Liga: 2
2007, 2009
Best Ibero-American Player in La Liga: 2
2007, 2009
FIFPro World Player of the Year: 1
2009
FIFPro Special Young Player of the Year: 2
2007, 2008
FIFPro World Young Player of the Year: 3
2006, 2007, 2008
FIFPro World XI: 3
2007, 2008, 2009
World Soccer Player of the Year: 1
2009
World Soccer Young Player of the Year: 3
2006, 2007, 2008
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball: 1
2009
Player of the Year of Argentina: 3
2005, 2007, 2009
Pichichi Trophy: 1
2010
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ok, so take out the extra shit individual honours, and messi is cleaning up and is 1 world cup behind

(keeping in mind, he's got at least 3 more world cup's in him)

he's going to be so much better than Maradona it's scary

i definitely don't think because Messi hasn't won a world cup yet (his debut he was 18), that he isn't a better player than Diego

in 20 years time, Messi's honours list will be as long as my arm. I wish it was as long as something else
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agree with brett again
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ronaldo07 wrote:agree with brett again
of course you do, because you're me and i just logged in as you to post that
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Hawkesy wrote:
LUFC wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
Yes it does.

george weah
ryan giggs
george best

Fantastic footballers, who never even played in a world cup finals tournament. Who's the better player, those guys or Alan Ball?
easy, Alan Ball
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LUFC wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:just becos u hav won the world cup it doesnt mean u r a better player than those who haven't
Yes it does.
so that means I'm as good as Di Stefano
fantastic, sign me up
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brett wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:agree with brett again
of course you do, because you're me and i just logged in as you to post that
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paul merson wrote:Maradona shot the paparazzi with a BB gun and got away with it, legend.
What he did here, even better :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgOXc7CZxWk
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ruud wrote:
brett wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:agree with brett again
of course you do, because you're me and i just logged in as you to post that
:lol:
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The answer is 42. So now what's the question?
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