Memo to Dimitri Peppas

[sgt peppers]

What ever happen to fair play ?

I witness a disgraceful display yesterday at the U17 ABE v Adelaide City yesterday from the AC linesman. The linesman had no idea of the correct call of offside and this affected the result of the game.

1. AC provided a parent linesman who was incompetent - where is the fair play ?

2. AC linesman does not know the basics of offside eg passive offside and the rule of being in offside position when the ball is kicked to that player - where is the fair play ?

3. The AC linesman called a incorrect crucial offside that affected the result of the game when the ABE was onside when the ball was kicked to him and was able to run on it to a goal scoring opportunity when the game was 2-2. The ABE player probably who had scored to make it 3-2 with 5 mins to go. Instead the offside is called by the AC linesman - the ABE player kicks the ball way in frustation - picks up his 2nd yellow card and gets sent off with 5 mins to go - where is teh fair play ?


The FFSA should introduce a basic training course on offside rules and make the linespersons attend so that we can improve the standard of line duties.

I know its lot of hassle but why not ?

[cheesecake shop 2]

Sounds like you lost Sgt Peppers!!! Unlucky there is always next week. Last time i checked kicking the ball away is a yellow card so what are you complaining about??

[SID]

mate its under 17's, its about player development not who wins.... I expect you had an official referee ? He is quite capable of over ruling the linesman. End of the day if ya team played well and ya have some players who will push into senior football then ya doing ok....

[Bomber]

What ever happen to fair play ?

I witness a disgraceful display yesterday at the U17 ABE v Adelaide City yesterday from the AC linesman. The linesman had no idea of the correct call of offside and this affected the result of the game.

1. AC provided a parent linesman who was incompetent - where is the fair play ?

2. AC linesman does not know the basics of offside eg passive offside and the rule of being in offside position when the ball is kicked to that player - where is the fair play ?

3. The AC linesman called a incorrect crucial offside that affected the result of the game when the ABE was onside when the ball was kicked to him and was able to run on it to a goal scoring opportunity when the game was 2-2. The ABE player probably who had scored to make it 3-2 with 5 mins to go. Instead the offside is called by the AC linesman - the ABE player kicks the ball way in frustation - picks up his 2nd yellow card and gets sent off with 5 mins to go - where is teh fair play ?


The FFSA should introduce a basic training course on offside rules and make the linespersons attend so that we can improve the standard of line duties.

I know its lot of hassle but why not ?

I believe Matthew Cream is available to come to clubs to do "talks" and discuss LOTG. I guess its up to clubs to arrange something, but many are apathetic. He came to Croydon for such a session, but turn out was pretty poor. It still never ceases to amaze the so many people who when asked to run the line, suddenly have every excuse under the sun not to do it (dont know the rules properly etc etc), yet when they dont agree with a decision, suddenly become experts.
Mind you I understand the frustration at the times when people blatantly cheat. But was this a case of cheating or just simply not knowing the rules? If the latter, then surely there is someone else at the game who should have done the job.

[sgt peppers]

What ever happen to fair play ?

I witness a disgraceful display yesterday at the U17 ABE v Adelaide City yesterday from the AC linesman. The linesman had no idea of the correct call of offside and this affected the result of the game.

1. AC provided a parent linesman who was incompetent - where is the fair play ?

2. AC linesman does not know the basics of offside eg passive offside and the rule of being in offside position when the ball is kicked to that player - where is the fair play ?

3. The AC linesman called a incorrect crucial offside that affected the result of the game when the ABE was onside when the ball was kicked to him and was able to run on it to a goal scoring opportunity when the game was 2-2. The ABE player probably who had scored to make it 3-2 with 5 mins to go. Instead the offside is called by the AC linesman - the ABE player kicks the ball way in frustation - picks up his 2nd yellow card and gets sent off with 5 mins to go - where is teh fair play ?


The FFSA should introduce a basic training course on offside rules and make the linespersons attend so that we can improve the standard of line duties.

I know its lot of hassle but why not ?

I believe Matthew Cream is available to come to clubs to do "talks" and discuss LOTG. I guess its up to clubs to arrange something, but many are apathetic. He came to Croydon for such a session, but turn out was pretty poor. It still never ceases to amaze the so many people who when asked to run the line, suddenly have every excuse under the sun not to do it (dont know the rules properly etc etc), yet when they dont agree with a decision, suddenly become experts.
Mind you I understand the frustration at the times when people blatantly cheat. But was this a case of cheating or just simply not knowing the rules? If the latter, then surely there is someone else at the game who should have done the job.

I dont feel it was cheating but it was obvious he didnt understand the offside rules

[Allrise]

What ever happen to fair play ?

I witness a disgraceful display yesterday at the U17 ABE v Adelaide City yesterday from the AC linesman. The linesman had no idea of the correct call of offside and this affected the result of the game.

1. AC provided a parent linesman who was incompetent - where is the fair play ?

2. AC linesman does not know the basics of offside eg passive offside and the rule of being in offside position when the ball is kicked to that player - where is the fair play ?

3. The AC linesman called a incorrect crucial offside that affected the result of the game when the ABE was onside when the ball was kicked to him and was able to run on it to a goal scoring opportunity when the game was 2-2. The ABE player probably who had scored to make it 3-2 with 5 mins to go. Instead the offside is called by the AC linesman - the ABE player kicks the ball way in frustation - picks up his 2nd yellow card and gets sent off with 5 mins to go - where is teh fair play ?


The FFSA should introduce a basic training course on offside rules and make the linespersons attend so that we can improve the standard of line duties.

I know its lot of hassle but why not ?

I think this thread was done to death last week following another "dubious" line call during a 14A's game and no doubt it's been done ever since Adam starting kicking a ball around with Eve.
accept it's going to happen week in week out.

[I'm confused]

Just be thankful you didn't get me

[Nova]

mate its under 17's, its about player development not who wins.... I expect you had an official referee ? He is quite capable of over ruling the linesman. End of the day if ya team played well and ya have some players who will push into senior football then ya doing ok....

Lose sight of this on Sunday mornings

[sgt peppers]

mate its under 17's, its about player development not who wins.... I expect you had an official referee ? He is quite capable of over ruling the linesman. End of the day if ya team played well and ya have some players who will push into senior football then ya doing ok....

The point of my thread was lets have fair play and not have a person interfering with the result of the game by calling offside for the sake of it.

I know its about player development but lets have some fun on the way there and try to make the junior football league as professional as we can for the development of the players.

[sgt peppers]

Sounds like you lost Sgt Peppers!!! Unlucky there is always next week. Last time i checked kicking the ball away is a yellow card so what are you complaining about??

My main complaint is the event that led to the 2 nd yellow card ie when that linesman called offside when the 2nd last AC defender was behind the ABE player when the ball was kicked to the ABE player -how on earth can that be offside ?

[cheesecake shop 2]

Sounds like you lost Sgt Peppers!!! Unlucky there is always next week. Last time i checked kicking the ball away is a yellow card so what are you complaining about??

My main complaint is the event that led to the 2 nd yellow card ie when that linesman called offside when the 2nd last AC defender was behind the ABE player when the ball was kicked to the ABE player -how on earth can that be offside ?

Dont know what your complaining about even the official linesmen get it wrong. Move on and worry about this week.

[sabaisabai]

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[sabaisabai]

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[prefly]

The other case is peoples inability to accept a more difficult/borderline decision made by a more experienced linesman( he has done the line for several years without any problems ) and the ref.
So a bit unfair to call it dubious...but at least not as bad as calling him a cheat !!

I think I get it now, you were the ch err I mean the linesman on that fateful day.
how many threads are you going to hijack with this vendetta you sad silly man
fuck you must be really boring at home at the moment.

wait for it!
sorry shouldn't encourage you

[Nice One Cyril]

Firstly, I'm not involved with either club so can't comment directly on the incident(s) in question.

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups, for the last 6 years, against both ABE and City. I do know the Laws and I don't cheat and I'm fit enough to keep up with play, but all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a fucking clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.

Either get out there or quit bitching about the parents who make an effort.

[Željko Jurin]

Firstly, I'm not involved with either club so can't comment directly on the incident(s) in question.

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups, for the last 6 years, against both ABE and City. I do know the Laws and I don't cheat and I'm fit enough to keep up with play, but all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.
Either get out there or quit bitching about the parents who make an effort.

[Dad's Army]

all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters who never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.

Thought this about a guy at the Florina v West Beach game on sunday who was whingeing about the referee... how about you lose some weight and get out and do it if you think you can do better. Later on he dissed his own keeper and whilst the keeper really ought to have stopped it I thought the same thing.

[sgt peppers]

Firstly, I'm not involved with either club so can't comment directly on the incident(s) in question.

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups, for the last 6 years, against both ABE and City. I do know the Laws and I don't cheat and I'm fit enough to keep up with play, but all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.

Either get out there or quit bitching about the parents who make an effort.

Thank you for your constructive comments, I hope the ABE and AC parents take your comments on board and make the world a better place for the likes of your kind.

[Green_Manalishi]

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups.......against both ABE and City.......all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.....

I'm surprised the chip on your shoulder allows you to lift up your flag

[Nice One Cyril]

Firstly, I'm not involved with either club so can't comment directly on the incident(s) in question.

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups, for the last 6 years, against both ABE and City. I do know the Laws and I don't cheat and I'm fit enough to keep up with play, but all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.

Either get out there or quit bitching about the parents who make an effort.

Thank you for your constructive comments, I hope the ABE and AC parents take your comments on board and make the world a better place for the likes of your kind.

And what kind would that be?


Someone who plays fair, and objects when an opposition parent slags him off and calls him a cheat just because their little darling got called offside. That wouldn't be you by any chance?

[Nice One Cyril]

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups.......against both ABE and City.......all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.....

I'm surprised the chip on your shoulder allows you to lift up your flag

There speaks a man with a fat arse I'll bet

[Green_Manalishi]

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups.......against both ABE and City.......all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.....

I'm surprised the chip on your shoulder allows you to lift up your flag

There speaks a man with a fat muscat I'll bet

No, I'm just an ignorant prick.

[sgt peppers]

Firstly, I'm not involved with either club so can't comment directly on the incident(s) in question.

I have however, run the line for Cumberland, probably 15 or so times per season in two different age groups, for the last 6 years, against both ABE and City. I do know the Laws and I don't cheat and I'm fit enough to keep up with play, but all you get is abuse from their one-eyed, ignorant pricks of supporters / parents, most of whom haven't got a bottle of shiraz clue about the rules and never get their fat arses out on the pitch to do it themselves.

Either get out there or quit bitching about the parents who make an effort.

Thank you for your constructive comments, I hope the ABE and AC parents take your comments on board and make the world a better place for the likes of your kind.

And what kind would that be?


Someone who plays fair, and objects when an opposition parent slags him off and calls him a cheat just because their little darling got called offside. That wouldn't be you by any chance?

No, its not - I just want fair play from the linesman and referee - I hope its not to much to ask for ?

In fact, I only give the obvious offside calls and if I have any doubt I give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team in which I know is a rare gesture judging by your definition of an ABE / AC parent / volunteer.

[sabaisabai]

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[prefly]

The guy is talking about linesman and errors etc.

Exactly so why mention in the "calling him a cheat". You have brought this incident up in at least 2 separate threads. You just cant get past that can you It might be all new to you but it happens in lots of games every week. A linesman being called a cheat -shock horror!!

Cant you discuss the topics without abusing people.

:? Go through your posts mate and read the abuse you dished out to people compared to what you have received, I think you will be a bit embarrassed, but then again it might be normal for you to react to people this way, if it is I'm truly sorry for you. No doubt you will want the last word, people like you always do. Enjoy your football.

[Nice One Cyril]

No, its not - I just want fair play from the linesman and referee - I hope its not to much to ask for ?

In fact, I only give the obvious offside calls and if I have any doubt I give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking team in which I know is a rare gesture judging by your definition of an ABE / AC parent / volunteer.

Last word on this subject from me. I don't have any problem with the ABE, AC or any other club's parents that make the effort to run the line. Sure, sometimes they get it wrong, sometimes they don't know the Laws as well as they perhaps should but I can accept that as part of kid's football.

What pisses me off is the fat, lazy cunts in the grandstands, stuffing their big round faces with burger and chips whilst calling me a cheat. Strangely, they're not so brave when I get back in the stands after the game.

[pc9999]

As another parent who ends up doing the line we have a roster in 1 team and none in another (2 kids).

I missed an offside for us due to distractions on the sideline and got glares and murmurs from the coaches of my kids team. I simply held up the flag to them in offer, strangely no one took me up on it. Called a few later spoke to the ref about all of them to reassure myself and he said if he is in doubt he will benefit the attacking team, the first one I missed he said was too close to call from his angle so either way the result was acceptable.

It also seems everyone's legs are sore or I dont know the rules every Sunday, my point is after 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 years of your child playing could you not even be assed picking up a rule book or youtubing to find out and share the load.

to the OP for what ever reason the linesman flagged the ref could have overruled as happens to many no matter their experience, he didn't. In the end the YC for kicking the ball away was correct yet I have seen others not call it.

We do what we can I guess and .|.. to those who know the rules and wont get off their asses to help those of us less experienced.

[Big Mac]

As another parent who ends up doing the line we have a roster in 1 team and none in another (2 kids).

I missed an offside for us due to distractions on the sideline and got glares and murmurs from the coaches of my kids team. I simply held up the flag to them in offer, strangely no one took me up on it. Called a few later spoke to the ref about all of them to reassure myself and he said if he is in doubt he will benefit the attacking team, the first one I missed he said was too close to call from his angle so either way the result was acceptable.

It also seems everyone's legs are sore or I dont know the rules every Sunday, my point is after 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 years of your child playing could you not even be assed picking up a rule book or youtubing to find out and share the load.

to the OP for what ever reason the linesman flagged the ref could have overruled as happens to many no matter their experience, he didn't. In the end the YC for kicking the ball away was correct yet I have seen others not call it.

We do what we can I guess and .|.. to those who know the rules and wont get off their asses to help those of us less experienced.

Wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard that
Try going to games with thongs on and your arms in plaster

[Željko Jurin]

As another parent who ends up doing the line we have a roster in 1 team and none in another (2 kids).

I missed an offside for us due to distractions on the sideline and got glares and murmurs from the coaches of my kids team. I simply held up the flag to them in offer, strangely no one took me up on it. Called a few later spoke to the ref about all of them to reassure myself and he said if he is in doubt he will benefit the attacking team, the first one I missed he said was too close to call from his angle so either way the result was acceptable.

It also seems everyone's legs are sore or I dont know the rules every Sunday, my point is after 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 years of your child playing could you not even be assed picking up a rule book or youtubing to find out and share the load.

to the OP for what ever reason the linesman flagged the ref could have overruled as happens to many no matter their experience, he didn't. In the end the YC for kicking the ball away was correct yet I have seen others not call it.

We do what we can I guess and .|.. to those who know the rules and wont get off their asses to help those of us less experienced.

And I bet they're the ones that complain the most about a decision, yet they 'dont know the rules'

[Fowler69]

mate its under 17's, its about player development not who wins.... I expect you had an official referee ? He is quite capable of over ruling the linesman. End of the day if ya team played well and ya have some players who will push into senior football then ya doing ok....

While I agree it is about development it is also about wining. Kids need a wining mentality, ask all of the kids on the park if they want to win.