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I meant the team that has received a forfeit chucky.
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Now I see what you're getting at.
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Because the Downs have received a forfeit we could play the first team against Gleeson. Or another scenario could be if the ressies drew the current ressie cup holders this round, we would be able to play the first team against them. :roll: :roll: :roll: Am i missing something here?
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If I was a regular B teamer and got omitted for an A player in this scenario I'd be just as pissed off as the opposition.
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marooned wrote:Because the Downs have received a forfeit we could play the first team against Gleeson. Or another scenario could be if the ressies drew the current ressie cup holders this round, we would be able to play the first team against them. :roll: :roll: :roll: Am i missing something here?
What and risk being called a hypocrite for your statements about the Florina Cteam scenario with Azza :o

I think Marooned's playing the old Jedi mind trick on Gleeson :wink:
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marooned wrote:Because the Downs have received a forfeit we could play the first team against Gleeson. Or another scenario could be if the ressies drew the current ressie cup holders this round, we would be able to play the first team against them. :roll: :roll: :roll: Am i missing something here?
The league doesn't really plan for forfeits because they are not supposed to happen...

out of the 64 teams in the 1st team cup - as far as we know this only affects the 1 team..

Unusual situation...
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marooned wrote:banya wrote
Seaford to forfeit against the Downs :P I hope :) :)

Seaford have forfeited your wish has come true banya

Ressies away on sat at Gleeson

C team have a catch up game at Florina
I hope these predictions carry over into the GG's on Saturday Arvo Marooned!!!

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marooned wrote:So therefore any team that has a forfeit can play all their first team in the ressies cup. Seems to me a loophole that should be sorted.
i've seen this a few times and heard that the reserves got kicked as they did stack their side, however if a true reserves team plays with the firsts fofiting, i have no problem
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Farm09 wrote:Whens your return DOC? Must be close now....
Yeah surely you would want a run in the cup squad just to get your toe in the door ?? :lol:
see the doctor on monday boys hoping to get the all clear, tempted to train tonight and maybe get a place in the squad but not sure yet
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With some clubs having more then one team,in the same cup competition,how does the cup-tied ruling work for them ?
Example, Adelaide Uni (2) get knocked out of the Challenge Cup,can any of those players move up into the Adelaide Uni div 1 side,and still play in the Challenge Cup,essentially they are moving up, which they are allowed to do,or not ?

Another scenario, Old Ignations (3) get knocked out of the Reserves Cup,can any of those players play for Old Ignations div 2 side in the Challenge Cup ? ( moving up from Reserves to Challenge Cup )

As this week is the first round for a lot of clubs,and most clubs will balance the strength of their teams according to their opposition,which they are allowed to do and I dont have a problem with that,and I understand that Reserves can move up, and those who play in the Challenge Cup, then cant play in the Reserves Cup,just curious to know how it works for clubs with more then one team ?
Hope I havent confused you all too much :?
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The General wrote:With some clubs having more then one team,in the same cup competition,how does the cup-tied ruling work for them ?
Example, Adelaide Uni (2) get knocked out of the Challenge Cup,can any of those players move up into the Adelaide Uni div 1 side,and still play in the Challenge Cup,essentially they are moving up, which they are allowed to do,or not ?

Another scenario, Old Ignations (3) get knocked out of the Reserves Cup,can any of those players play for Old Ignations div 2 side in the Challenge Cup ? ( moving up from Reserves to Challenge Cup )

As this week is the first round for a lot of clubs,and most clubs will balance the strength of their teams according to their opposition,which they are allowed to do and I dont have a problem with that,and I understand that Reserves can move up, and those who play in the Challenge Cup, then cant play in the Reserves Cup,just curious to know how it works for clubs with more then one team ?
Hope I havent confused you all too much :?
The rules are all in the SAASL Cup Competition guide. A basic rundown:

OISC, OISC (2), OISC (3) are different clubs for Cup purposes. Thus, if you play for one of those 'clubs', you are cup-tied to that club.

So, Player A plays for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup, he can only play in the next round for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup or for OISC (2) in the Challenge Cup.

Player B plays for OISC in the Reserve Cup. He cannot drop down to play for our Cs, ie OISC (2) in the next round as he is tied to OISC.

It's the same principle as if you were a player who had played for OISC in the Cup and then you transferred to Adelaide Uni (for example), you would be cup-tied as you had already played in the Cup for a different club.

Hope that makes sense.

Basically for us, it's all about man-management and knowing who plays where (especially for GKs). We almost came unstuck last year on our run to the Reserve Cup Final as most of our GKs were cup-tied and our eligible GK broke his eye socket in the last game of the season against Vipers. Luckily, we had pre-registered a backup keeper at the start of the season as insurance (he ended up only playing two league games all season), and he played against Ingle Farm and Vikings in the semi and the final.
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Kitchimo wrote:
The General wrote:With some clubs having more then one team,in the same cup competition,how does the cup-tied ruling work for them ?
Example, Adelaide Uni (2) get knocked out of the Challenge Cup,can any of those players move up into the Adelaide Uni div 1 side,and still play in the Challenge Cup,essentially they are moving up, which they are allowed to do,or not ?

Another scenario, Old Ignations (3) get knocked out of the Reserves Cup,can any of those players play for Old Ignations div 2 side in the Challenge Cup ? ( moving up from Reserves to Challenge Cup )

As this week is the first round for a lot of clubs,and most clubs will balance the strength of their teams according to their opposition,which they are allowed to do and I dont have a problem with that,and I understand that Reserves can move up, and those who play in the Challenge Cup, then cant play in the Reserves Cup,just curious to know how it works for clubs with more then one team ?
Hope I havent confused you all too much :?
The rules are all in the SAASL Cup Competition guide. A basic rundown:

OISC, OISC (2), OISC (3) are different clubs for Cup purposes. Thus, if you play for one of those 'clubs', you are cup-tied to that club.

So, Player A plays for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup, he can only play in the next round for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup or for OISC (2) in the Challenge Cup.

Player B plays for OISC in the Reserve Cup. He cannot drop down to play for our Cs, ie OISC (2) in the next round as he is tied to OISC.

It's the same principle as if you were a player who had played for OISC in the Cup and then you transferred to Adelaide Uni (for example), you would be cup-tied as you had already played in the Cup for a different club.

Hope that makes sense.

Basically for us, it's all about man-management and knowing who plays where (especially for GKs). We almost came unstuck last year on our run to the Reserve Cup Final as most of our GKs were cup-tied and our eligible GK broke his eye socket in the last game of the season against Vipers. Luckily, we had pre-registered a backup keeper at the start of the season as insurance (he ended up only playing two league games all season), and he played against Ingle Farm and Vikings in the semi and the final.
So you cheated us out of a Cup Final at Hindmarsh :wink:
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Jay Walking wrote:
Kitchimo wrote:
The General wrote:With some clubs having more then one team,in the same cup competition,how does the cup-tied ruling work for them ?
Example, Adelaide Uni (2) get knocked out of the Challenge Cup,can any of those players move up into the Adelaide Uni div 1 side,and still play in the Challenge Cup,essentially they are moving up, which they are allowed to do,or not ?

Another scenario, Old Ignations (3) get knocked out of the Reserves Cup,can any of those players play for Old Ignations div 2 side in the Challenge Cup ? ( moving up from Reserves to Challenge Cup )

As this week is the first round for a lot of clubs,and most clubs will balance the strength of their teams according to their opposition,which they are allowed to do and I dont have a problem with that,and I understand that Reserves can move up, and those who play in the Challenge Cup, then cant play in the Reserves Cup,just curious to know how it works for clubs with more then one team ?
Hope I havent confused you all too much :?
The rules are all in the SAASL Cup Competition guide. A basic rundown:

OISC, OISC (2), OISC (3) are different clubs for Cup purposes. Thus, if you play for one of those 'clubs', you are cup-tied to that club.

So, Player A plays for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup, he can only play in the next round for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup or for OISC (2) in the Challenge Cup.

Player B plays for OISC in the Reserve Cup. He cannot drop down to play for our Cs, ie OISC (2) in the next round as he is tied to OISC.

It's the same principle as if you were a player who had played for OISC in the Cup and then you transferred to Adelaide Uni (for example), you would be cup-tied as you had already played in the Cup for a different club.

Hope that makes sense.

Basically for us, it's all about man-management and knowing who plays where (especially for GKs). We almost came unstuck last year on our run to the Reserve Cup Final as most of our GKs were cup-tied and our eligible GK broke his eye socket in the last game of the season against Vipers. Luckily, we had pre-registered a backup keeper at the start of the season as insurance (he ended up only playing two league games all season), and he played against Ingle Farm and Vikings in the semi and the final.
So you cheated us out of a Cup Final at Hindmarsh :wink:
You only cheated yourselves! :lol:
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Gleeson Reserves have Forfieted their home match against The Downs on Saturday!
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Rexie wrote:Gleeson Reserves have Forfieted their home match against The Downs on Saturday!
More importantly Rexie. Is the Club going to be open on Saturday or Sunday for a few Bevvies...
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Sorry Banya,. Just spoke to Big Bar man Wilco and he said we not gonna open this weekend due to Mothers Day.

C grade still have a game against Florina though.
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Cheers Gleeson a phone call earlier than friday morning would have been the better option. You make one call now we make 17. :roll: :roll: :roll: There are guys taking time off work to play on Sat. Though we are amateurs all wee bit of professionism goes a long way.
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Kitchimo wrote:
The General wrote:With some clubs having more then one team,in the same cup competition,how does the cup-tied ruling work for them ?
Example, Adelaide Uni (2) get knocked out of the Challenge Cup,can any of those players move up into the Adelaide Uni div 1 side,and still play in the Challenge Cup,essentially they are moving up, which they are allowed to do,or not ?

Another scenario, Old Ignations (3) get knocked out of the Reserves Cup,can any of those players play for Old Ignations div 2 side in the Challenge Cup ? ( moving up from Reserves to Challenge Cup )

As this week is the first round for a lot of clubs,and most clubs will balance the strength of their teams according to their opposition,which they are allowed to do and I dont have a problem with that,and I understand that Reserves can move up, and those who play in the Challenge Cup, then cant play in the Reserves Cup,just curious to know how it works for clubs with more then one team ?
Hope I havent confused you all too much :?
The rules are all in the SAASL Cup Competition guide. A basic rundown:

OISC, OISC (2), OISC (3) are different clubs for Cup purposes. Thus, if you play for one of those 'clubs', you are cup-tied to that club.

So, Player A plays for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup, he can only play in the next round for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup or for OISC (2) in the Challenge Cup.

Player B plays for OISC in the Reserve Cup. He cannot drop down to play for our Cs, ie OISC (2) in the next round as he is tied to OISC.

It's the same principle as if you were a player who had played for OISC in the Cup and then you transferred to Adelaide Uni (for example), you would be cup-tied as you had already played in the Cup for a different club.

Hope that makes sense.

Basically for us, it's all about man-management and knowing who plays where (especially for GKs). We almost came unstuck last year on our run to the Reserve Cup Final as most of our GKs were cup-tied and our eligible GK broke his eye socket in the last game of the season against Vipers. Luckily, we had pre-registered a backup keeper at the start of the season as insurance (he ended up only playing two league games all season), and he played against Ingle Farm and Vikings in the semi and the final.
Yes it does actually make sense-in Cup games you are treated as individual clubs if I understand you correctly.
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The General wrote:
Kitchimo wrote:
The General wrote:With some clubs having more then one team,in the same cup competition,how does the cup-tied ruling work for them ?
Example, Adelaide Uni (2) get knocked out of the Challenge Cup,can any of those players move up into the Adelaide Uni div 1 side,and still play in the Challenge Cup,essentially they are moving up, which they are allowed to do,or not ?

Another scenario, Old Ignations (3) get knocked out of the Reserves Cup,can any of those players play for Old Ignations div 2 side in the Challenge Cup ? ( moving up from Reserves to Challenge Cup )

As this week is the first round for a lot of clubs,and most clubs will balance the strength of their teams according to their opposition,which they are allowed to do and I dont have a problem with that,and I understand that Reserves can move up, and those who play in the Challenge Cup, then cant play in the Reserves Cup,just curious to know how it works for clubs with more then one team ?
Hope I havent confused you all too much :?
The rules are all in the SAASL Cup Competition guide. A basic rundown:

OISC, OISC (2), OISC (3) are different clubs for Cup purposes. Thus, if you play for one of those 'clubs', you are cup-tied to that club.

So, Player A plays for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup, he can only play in the next round for OISC (2) in the Reserve Cup or for OISC (2) in the Challenge Cup.

Player B plays for OISC in the Reserve Cup. He cannot drop down to play for our Cs, ie OISC (2) in the next round as he is tied to OISC.

It's the same principle as if you were a player who had played for OISC in the Cup and then you transferred to Adelaide Uni (for example), you would be cup-tied as you had already played in the Cup for a different club.

Hope that makes sense.

Basically for us, it's all about man-management and knowing who plays where (especially for GKs). We almost came unstuck last year on our run to the Reserve Cup Final as most of our GKs were cup-tied and our eligible GK broke his eye socket in the last game of the season against Vipers. Luckily, we had pre-registered a backup keeper at the start of the season as insurance (he ended up only playing two league games all season), and he played against Ingle Farm and Vikings in the semi and the final.
Yes it does actually make sense-in Cup games you are treated as individual clubs if I understand you correctly.
Correct.

In 2008, for example, a new player came out to OISC and started in the Cs. That weekend it happened to be a Cup game, and he thus got cup-tied to OISC (2). He ended up ultimately in the first-team (who got knocked out in Round One), but was not able to play for the Bs.
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More importantly Rexie. Is the Club going to be open on Saturday or Sunday for a few Bevvies


Now that both games are cancelled if any of the boys have a couple of hours to spare on sat Wilko has to go pick up our new coolroom and could use some assistance. A couple of bevvies back at the club would not be out of the question.
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Just heard Croatia have pulled out. :( :evil: Talk about leaving it to the last minute. Hopeless!
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Last years ressie champions Vikings have forfieted against Cougars ressies.... suprised that a champ wouldn't be keen to defend their crown???
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East 17 wrote:Just heard Croatia have pulled out. :( :evil: Talk about leaving it to the last minute. Hopeless!
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5cougarsthanx wrote:Last years ressie champions Vikings have forfieted against Cougars ressies.... suprised that a champ wouldn't be keen to defend their crown???
hey cougars is a gavrilides still down there?
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5cougarsthanx wrote:Last years ressie champions Vikings have forfieted against Cougars ressies.... suprised that a champ wouldn't be keen to defend their crown???
this is due to the A's forfieting from what i have heard today. no A's so auto foriet for the B's i belive. A's injuries/mothers day forcing them to forfeit. mothers day excuse is piss weak.
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5cougarsthanx wrote:Last years ressie champions Vikings have forfieted against Cougars ressies.... suprised that a champ wouldn't be keen to defend their crown???
this is due to the A's forfieting from what i have heard today. no A's so auto foriet for the B's i belive. A's injuries/mothers day forcing them to forfeit. mothers day excuse is piss weak.
yeah i've heard of that rule think i mentioned it in this or another thread
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McLaren Districts have also forfeited.
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This is correct, A's could not field a team due to injuries and it was in the clubs best interest to rest the A side. resies will be fielding the A's this week and playing saint peters. Very disappointing for us as defending champions but i guess its called amateurs for a reason.

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5cougarsthanx wrote:Last years ressie champions Vikings have forfieted against Cougars ressies.... suprised that a champ wouldn't be keen to defend their crown???
this is due to the A's forfieting from what i have heard today. no A's so auto foriet for the B's i belive. A's injuries/mothers day forcing them to forfeit. mothers day excuse is piss weak.
yeah i've heard of that rule think i mentioned it in this or another thread
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