Unimpressive Gerrard and Torres
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lots of text when the root cause of Liverpools problems can be summed up quite easily
Steven Gerrard is no longer putting the team on his back
Torres can't stay fit long enough to make a telling impact
the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
there you go
Gerrard not getting convicted of at least a minor charge for publicly thumping someone has done him the world of harm
he now thinks he is above anything and anyone and is suffering for that attitude , a good dose of humility wouldn't go astray
Steven Gerrard is no longer putting the team on his back
Torres can't stay fit long enough to make a telling impact
the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
there you go
Gerrard not getting convicted of at least a minor charge for publicly thumping someone has done him the world of harm
he now thinks he is above anything and anyone and is suffering for that attitude , a good dose of humility wouldn't go astray
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Reina, Masch, Johnson...three average epl players ay?vertu1 wrote: the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
Reina is the best 'keeper in the epl.
Masch is one of the two best DMs in the epl.
Johnson is arguably the best RB in the epl.
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Dan Agger wrote:Reina, Masch, Johnson...three average epl players ay?vertu1 wrote: the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
Reina is the best 'keeper in the epl.
Masch is one of the two best DMs in the epl.
Johnson is arguably the best RB in the epl.
not on the form gary neville was in last nite hahaha
even had a ping from 25 yrs out with the left foot
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Mark Schwarzer is the best GK in the EPL.Dan Agger wrote:Reina, Masch, Johnson...three average epl players ay?vertu1 wrote: the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
Reina is the best 'keeper in the epl.
Masch is one of the two best DMs in the epl.
Johnson is arguably the best RB in the epl.
Ivanovic is better than Johnson and he's not even a full time right back.
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Here we go again, how many times are dipper fans gonna have this conversation? Take away Gerrard (in form) and Torres and you are an average team, always have been under Mad Rafa. That's why you don't win trophies anymore. Apart from the ladyboy he's squandered millions on average players in his time in charge!Dan Agger wrote:Reina, Masch, Johnson...three average epl players ay?vertu1 wrote: the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
Reina is the best 'keeper in the epl.
Masch is one of the two best DMs in the epl.
Johnson is arguably the best RB in the epl.
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Schwarzer is not as good as Reina.Scudetto8687 wrote:Mark Schwarzer is the best GK in the EPL.Dan Agger wrote:Reina, Masch, Johnson...three average epl players ay?vertu1 wrote: the rest of the players always have been and still are just average epl players
Reina is the best 'keeper in the epl.
Masch is one of the two best DMs in the epl.
Johnson is arguably the best RB in the epl.
Ivanovic is better than Johnson and he's not even a full time right back.
Ivanovic???what have u been smoking johnson is the best right back in england and in the top 5 in the world.
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yes im glad we finally got there. im not a fan of people who look smug...or the french.Dan Agger wrote:Aurelio was fully fit for a long time until just recently, but Insua started ahead of him still. Rafa obviously sees something in him, but I'm not quite sure what. Hopefully he turns out to be quality, as Rafa certainly believes he will. Give me some examples of these 'number of occasions' please. I remember one and only one.Frithy wrote:i think you will find aurelio would be starting ahead of insua if he was fully fit. As for that happening once ngog has done this on a number of occasions, notice how when i mentioned his dive i didnt say he has done it on multiple occasions. My first thoughts on kyrgiakos(after his first game) was omg....we are in trouble but after a few games i was impressed with him. I accept players can change and i hope ngog does but just because he plays for liverpool i dont have to like him, respect the fact that as he plays for liverpool he is a freak but i dont have to respect his style of play, face it we wont agree on this as we both dislike certain players and in our eyes they can do little wrong, i think ngog is a blundering talentless idiot whos not fit to shine torres's boots and you think kuyt is a twat who has the worst first touch in the world and should not be in liverpools squad, we both have to accept we arent the manager and therefore our opinions are irrelevant.Dan Agger wrote:
It's nothing to do with my own perceptions on the matter. The FACT is that Insua was horrendous against Wigan and when I pointed that out you jumped on here, defended him and had a dig at Ngog who didn't even take part. You don't know anything about Ngog. Tell me oh wise one, what inside information do you have that proves Ngog is complacent?
That occured in one game. It happens once and then all of a sudden its a part of his play? Is that right? I think you're the one who is narrow minded mate.
Insuas work rate is good, yes. But if a defender is beaten nine out of ten times in a game, then work rate is useless. He may get better and become the player he was touted to be, but right now he is not good enough to be starting week in, week out.
You also didn't give me a reason as to why N'gog is complacent? Is it because he looks 'smug'?
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I find it amusing how people 15,000kms away who seldomn watch a Liverpool match (judging by contribution on prior topics on this forum) let alone off field conduct can psyco analyse with such precision.
On a side note, Reina is absolutely world class and would be the starting keeper for any nation bar Spain (unfortunately for him!) and Italy.
he now thinks he is above anything and anyone and is suffering for that attitude , a good dose of humility wouldn't go astray
On a side note, Reina is absolutely world class and would be the starting keeper for any nation bar Spain (unfortunately for him!) and Italy.
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I personally reckon he'd give Buffon a run for his money..Casillas has got to be worried as well..He'll need to stay at the absolute top of his form to keep Reina out of the side.The Kop wrote:I find it amusing how people 15,000kms away who seldomn watch a Liverpool match (judging by contribution on prior topics on this forum) let alone off field conduct can psyco analyse with such precision.
he now thinks he is above anything and anyone and is suffering for that attitude , a good dose of humility wouldn't go astray
On a side note, Reina is absolutely world class and would be the starting keeper for any nation bar Spain (unfortunately for him!) and Italy.
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top 5 best right backs in your opinion?Loppermann wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFrithy wrote:Ivanovic???what have u been smoking johnson is the best right back in england and in the top 5 in the world.
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thanks mate, you just made my day!
Johnson! Top 5 right back!?
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johnson?
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daniel mullen?
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my blind grandmother is a better right back than Johnsontotsreds08 wrote:top 5 best right backs in your opinion?Loppermann wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAFrithy wrote:Ivanovic???what have u been smoking johnson is the best right back in england and in the top 5 in the world.
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Johnson! Top 5 right back!?
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maicon?
johnson?
dani alves?
daniel mullen?
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YEAH GOOD ONELoppermann wrote:my blind grandmother is a better right back than Johnson
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thankstotsreds08 wrote:YEAH GOOD ONELoppermann wrote:my blind grandmother is a better right back than Johnson
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cos i like hearing your opinion on football matters.
5 RBs better than Johnson, cmon?
Lets start with the premiership:
- Considering he is England no1 right back, that would put him ahead of all other English right backs (who havent retired from intl football).
- Chelsea were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. You would take that as a sign that they rate him higher than Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferriera.
- Man City were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. They rate him higher than Richards, Zabaleta and co.
- Bakary Sagna? Nope.
- Who's left, rat boy Gary Neville?
Thats the EPL out the way, now find 5 more from La Liga, Seria, Bundesliga and Ligue 1......
5 RBs better than Johnson, cmon?
Lets start with the premiership:
- Considering he is England no1 right back, that would put him ahead of all other English right backs (who havent retired from intl football).
- Chelsea were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. You would take that as a sign that they rate him higher than Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferriera.
- Man City were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. They rate him higher than Richards, Zabaleta and co.
- Bakary Sagna? Nope.
- Who's left, rat boy Gary Neville?
Thats the EPL out the way, now find 5 more from La Liga, Seria, Bundesliga and Ligue 1......
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kopThe Kop wrote:I find it amusing how people 15,000kms away who seldomn watch a Liverpool match (judging by contribution on prior topics on this forum) let alone off field conduct can psyco analyse with such precision.
he now thinks he is above anything and anyone and is suffering for that attitude , a good dose of humility wouldn't go astray
nice attempt to deflect attention from the subject matter
i notice you didn't actually disagree with the statement though, but then again you can't really, it is so obviously correct
you know that
his poor attitude is plain to see even from watching the occasional game from 15000kms away
just imagine how much it is affecting those watching from closeup day in day out ..
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Like I said, I just find it amusing you're prepared to psyco analyse his personality from a far.
Apart from the actual game on fox, we are extremely limited in other news that dissapates down here.
I know lots of players who are c*nts on the pitch, but humble as pie and gentleman off it.
From all the interviews ive seen, he definately doesnt have an attitute problem and is a humble down to earth fella. Theres me denying it.
For a scouser with money and fame for 12 years now, 1 banged up DJ is a bloody good record in my opinion!!......
Apart from the actual game on fox, we are extremely limited in other news that dissapates down here.
I know lots of players who are c*nts on the pitch, but humble as pie and gentleman off it.
From all the interviews ive seen, he definately doesnt have an attitute problem and is a humble down to earth fella. Theres me denying it.
For a scouser with money and fame for 12 years now, 1 banged up DJ is a bloody good record in my opinion!!......
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one word, Haregreaves ;)The Kop wrote:cos i like hearing your opinion on football matters.
5 RBs better than Johnson, cmon?
Lets start with the premiership:
- Considering he is England no1 right back, that would put him ahead of all other English right backs (who havent retired from intl football).
- Chelsea were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. You would take that as a sign that they rate him higher than Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferriera.
- Man City were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. They rate him higher than Richards, Zabaleta and co.
- Bakary Sagna? Nope.
- Who's left, rat boy Gary Neville?
Thats the EPL out the way, now find 5 more from La Liga, Seria, Bundesliga and Ligue 1......
if he wasn't injured, he would walk into that right back spot ahead of Johnson
so he's not even the best in England!
lol, I'd say a bigger sign of what Chelsea think of Johnson is the fact that they told him to fuck off to Portsmouth not 3 seasons ago
you do know both Chelsea and City had their bids rejected because they weren't willing to pay what Portsmouth were asking for him, right? By extention, they thought he was overrated.
But cash is pretty tight at both of those clubs, so they're only looking for bargains...
typical Liverpool bias in your opinion here
if you weren't a one eyed scouser you'd know Johnson would be lucky to be in the top 25 right backs in the world
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you don't see the other 10,000 footballers with money and fame hitting DJsThe Kop wrote:Like I said, I just find it amusing you're prepared to psyco analyse his personality from a far.
Apart from the actual game on fox, we are extremely limited in other news that dissapates down here.
I know lots of players who are c*nts on the pitch, but humble as pie and gentleman off it.
From all the interviews ive seen, he definately doesnt have an attitute problem and is a humble down to earth fella. Theres me denying it.
For a scouser with money and fame for 12 years now, 1 banged up DJ is a bloody good record in my opinion!!......
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lolwutLoppermann wrote:one word, Haregreaves ;)The Kop wrote:cos i like hearing your opinion on football matters.
5 RBs better than Johnson, cmon?
Lets start with the premiership:
- Considering he is England no1 right back, that would put him ahead of all other English right backs (who havent retired from intl football).
- Chelsea were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. You would take that as a sign that they rate him higher than Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferriera.
- Man City were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. They rate him higher than Richards, Zabaleta and co.
- Bakary Sagna? Nope.
- Who's left, rat boy Gary Neville?
Thats the EPL out the way, now find 5 more from La Liga, Seria, Bundesliga and Ligue 1......
if he wasn't injured, he would walk into that right back spot ahead of Johnson
so he's not even the best in England!
lol, I'd say a bigger sign of what Chelsea think of Johnson is the fact that they told him to fuck off to Portsmouth not 3 seasons ago
you do know both Chelsea and City had their bids rejected because they weren't willing to pay what Portsmouth were asking for him, right? By extention, they thought he was overrated.
But cash is pretty tight at both of those clubs, so they're only looking for bargains...
typical Liverpool bias in your opinion here
if you weren't a one eyed scouser you'd know Johnson would be lucky to be in the top 25 right backs in the world
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Loppermann wrote:one word, Haregreaves ;)The Kop wrote:cos i like hearing your opinion on football matters.
5 RBs better than Johnson, cmon?
Lets start with the premiership:
- Considering he is England no1 right back, that would put him ahead of all other English right backs (who havent retired from intl football).
- Chelsea were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. You would take that as a sign that they rate him higher than Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferriera.
- Man City were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. They rate him higher than Richards, Zabaleta and co.
- Bakary Sagna? Nope.
- Who's left, rat boy Gary Neville?
Thats the EPL out the way, now find 5 more from La Liga, Seria, Bundesliga and Ligue 1......
if he wasn't injured, he would walk into that right back spot ahead of Johnson
so he's not even the best in England!
lol, I'd say a bigger sign of what Chelsea think of Johnson is the fact that they told him to fuck off to Portsmouth not 3 seasons ago
you do know both Chelsea and City had their bids rejected because they weren't willing to pay what Portsmouth were asking for him, right? By extention, they thought he was overrated.
But cash is pretty tight at both of those clubs, so they're only looking for bargains...
typical Liverpool bias in your opinion here
if you weren't a one eyed scouser you'd know Johnson would be lucky to be in the top 25 right backs in the world
- Firstly, LOL @ Hargreaves. Why not play Frank Lampard at left back to cover ca$hley cole!! haha.
Secondly, the fact they wanted him back AFTER they turfed him as a 21 year old is bigger sign of desire!
Thirdly, if your version of events is correct re the overratedness he wouldnt have even been on the transfer rader. What Citeh and Chelski want to sign England's 1st choice RB as their 3rd/4th choice?!?!?! haha moron!
Lastly, everyone rated him last year - scousers included - to be England number 1 RB @ Portsmouth is an excellent achievement.
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Dude there really is no point to using actual arguments with him. All he'll come back with is some juvenile comment. Just let his comments go. He's a little kid who hides behind his keyboard and thinks he's hilarious.The Kop wrote:Loppermann wrote:one word, Haregreaves ;)The Kop wrote:cos i like hearing your opinion on football matters.
5 RBs better than Johnson, cmon?
Lets start with the premiership:
- Considering he is England no1 right back, that would put him ahead of all other English right backs (who havent retired from intl football).
- Chelsea were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. You would take that as a sign that they rate him higher than Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Ferriera.
- Man City were after him in the summer but had their bid rejected. They rate him higher than Richards, Zabaleta and co.
- Bakary Sagna? Nope.
- Who's left, rat boy Gary Neville?
Thats the EPL out the way, now find 5 more from La Liga, Seria, Bundesliga and Ligue 1......
if he wasn't injured, he would walk into that right back spot ahead of Johnson
so he's not even the best in England!
lol, I'd say a bigger sign of what Chelsea think of Johnson is the fact that they told him to fuck off to Portsmouth not 3 seasons ago
you do know both Chelsea and City had their bids rejected because they weren't willing to pay what Portsmouth were asking for him, right? By extention, they thought he was overrated.
But cash is pretty tight at both of those clubs, so they're only looking for bargains...
typical Liverpool bias in your opinion here
if you weren't a one eyed scouser you'd know Johnson would be lucky to be in the top 25 right backs in the world
- Firstly, LOL @ Hargreaves. Why not play Frank Lampard at left back to cover ca$hley cole!! haha.
Secondly, the fact they wanted him back AFTER they turfed him as a 21 year old is bigger sign of desire!
Thirdly, if your version of events is correct re the overratedness he wouldnt have even been on the transfer rader. What Citeh and Chelski want to sign England's 1st choice RB as their 3rd/4th choice?!?!?! haha moron!
Lastly, everyone rated him last year - scousers included - to be England number 1 RB @ Portsmouth is an excellent achievement.
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Re: Unimpressive Gerrard and Torres
Hargreaves was England's best player at the last world cup...The Kop wrote:Firstly, LOL @ Hargreaves. Why not play Frank Lampard at left back to cover ca$hley cole!! haha.
Secondly, the fact they wanted him back AFTER they turfed him as a 21 year old is bigger sign of desire!
Thirdly, if your version of events is correct re the overratedness he wouldnt have even been on the transfer rader. What Citeh and Chelski want to sign England's 1st choice RB as their 3rd/4th choice?!?!?! haha moron!
Lastly, everyone rated him last year - scousers included - to be England number 1 RB @ Portsmouth is an excellent achievement.
he also doesn't turn to shit in big matches
still laughing at Johnson's pathetic own goal against Arsenal at Anfield this season
lol, panic more Glen!?
being England's number one right back isn't a big achievement these days
you said yourself that all the other contenders are shit ;)
thanks for playing, but it really makes it easy for me when you dig your own grave like that
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I'd be happy to tell you Liverpool are shit in real life?Dan Agger wrote:Dude there really is no point to using actual arguments with him. All he'll come back with is some juvenile comment. Just let his comments go. He's a little kid who hides behind his keyboard and thinks he's hilarious.
Re: Unimpressive Gerrard and Torres
nice try losermann, but you still lose.
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Re: Unimpressive Gerrard and Torres
Where can one find this elusive Loppermann?Loppermann wrote:I'd be happy to tell you Liverpool are shit in real life?Dan Agger wrote:Dude there really is no point to using actual arguments with him. All he'll come back with is some juvenile comment. Just let his comments go. He's a little kid who hides behind his keyboard and thinks he's hilarious.
Re: Unimpressive Gerrard and Torres
I'd pay to see thatLoppermann wrote:I'd be happy to tell you Liverpool are shit in real life?Dan Agger wrote:Dude there really is no point to using actual arguments with him. All he'll come back with is some juvenile comment. Just let his comments go. He's a little kid who hides behind his keyboard and thinks he's hilarious.
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haywood djablowme wrote: I believe Arsenal have improved more than the Poo! (we are only 5 pts behind you)
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Re: Unimpressive Gerrard and Torres
lol, you're just too damn easy to get a reaction out ofThe Kop wrote:nice try losermann, but you still lose.
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