Unimpressive Walcott
Moderators: BillShankly, arxidi, Judge Judy, Forum Admins
Unimpressive Walcott
Former England winger Chris Waddle believes Theo Walcott "doesn't understand the game" and should not be in the international reckoning.
Walcott made a bright start in England's 3-1 win over Egypt on Wednesday, bursting past defenders to create a simple chance for Frank Lampard, but he struggled in the aftermath and was eventually substituted early in the second half after repeatedly running into trouble.
It has been a difficult season for Walcott and, a fortnight before his 21st birthday, many feel he has yet to show any real development since leaving Southampton for Arsenal in 2006 and Waddle, who won 62 caps for his country, has now suggested there is little hope he will fulfil expectations.
"People keep saying he's young but Wayne Rooney understood the game at 16, 17," Waddle said. "I've never seen any difference in Theo Walcott since he was at Southampton and broke into the team at a very young age.
"I've never seen him develop. He just doesn't understand the game for me - where to be running, when to run inside a full-back, (when to) just play a one-two."
Speaking on BBC Radio Five Live, Waddle said: "It's all off the cuff. The ball comes to him and if he gets a good first touch he might be on his way if he shows pace, but he has a plan in his mind before the ball comes to him.
"He's not looking as if to think, 'This is where I want to be, this is where I want to go, and this is what I'm going to do'. It just seems to be all off the cuff.
"People keep saying to me, 'Oh he's young and he'll learn'. I keep thinking, 'Fabregas has learnt and he's young, Rooney has learnt... they all read the game so well'.
"I just don't think he's got a football brain and he's going to have problems. Eventually he could play up front, but would he know where to run? Let's be honest, good defenders would catch him offside every time.
"I just don't know whether he studies the game, learns the game, or what. He's at a great club where they play fantastic football week-in, week-out, and I'm just surprised he's never developed his game."
Waddle admits that he was surprised to see Walcott in the squad ahead of in-form Manchester City winger Adam Johnson and does not feel the hat-trick he scored against Croatia warrants his continued inclusion.
"I'm surprised Walcott was in the squad," Waddle said. "He doesn't play a lot of football, he hasn't done anything. He hasn't done anything for a long time and I think Croatia was a one-off.
"I just think he's got a lot to learn. I've been more impressed by Adam Johnson at Manchester City than Theo Walcott."
Former England boss Graham Taylor agreed with Waddle. "I'm not going to be in any disagreement at all," he said. "I haven't seen the improvement of Theo Walcott in terms of what Chris is saying of reading the game. I just haven't seen it. I just see a problem there.
Walcott made a bright start in England's 3-1 win over Egypt on Wednesday, bursting past defenders to create a simple chance for Frank Lampard, but he struggled in the aftermath and was eventually substituted early in the second half after repeatedly running into trouble.
It has been a difficult season for Walcott and, a fortnight before his 21st birthday, many feel he has yet to show any real development since leaving Southampton for Arsenal in 2006 and Waddle, who won 62 caps for his country, has now suggested there is little hope he will fulfil expectations.
"People keep saying he's young but Wayne Rooney understood the game at 16, 17," Waddle said. "I've never seen any difference in Theo Walcott since he was at Southampton and broke into the team at a very young age.
"I've never seen him develop. He just doesn't understand the game for me - where to be running, when to run inside a full-back, (when to) just play a one-two."
Speaking on BBC Radio Five Live, Waddle said: "It's all off the cuff. The ball comes to him and if he gets a good first touch he might be on his way if he shows pace, but he has a plan in his mind before the ball comes to him.
"He's not looking as if to think, 'This is where I want to be, this is where I want to go, and this is what I'm going to do'. It just seems to be all off the cuff.
"People keep saying to me, 'Oh he's young and he'll learn'. I keep thinking, 'Fabregas has learnt and he's young, Rooney has learnt... they all read the game so well'.
"I just don't think he's got a football brain and he's going to have problems. Eventually he could play up front, but would he know where to run? Let's be honest, good defenders would catch him offside every time.
"I just don't know whether he studies the game, learns the game, or what. He's at a great club where they play fantastic football week-in, week-out, and I'm just surprised he's never developed his game."
Waddle admits that he was surprised to see Walcott in the squad ahead of in-form Manchester City winger Adam Johnson and does not feel the hat-trick he scored against Croatia warrants his continued inclusion.
"I'm surprised Walcott was in the squad," Waddle said. "He doesn't play a lot of football, he hasn't done anything. He hasn't done anything for a long time and I think Croatia was a one-off.
"I just think he's got a lot to learn. I've been more impressed by Adam Johnson at Manchester City than Theo Walcott."
Former England boss Graham Taylor agreed with Waddle. "I'm not going to be in any disagreement at all," he said. "I haven't seen the improvement of Theo Walcott in terms of what Chris is saying of reading the game. I just haven't seen it. I just see a problem there.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
hes not that good
and i thought wenger was supposed to make every young player good?
oh no, its only the ones he hasnt sold to small clubs
and i thought wenger was supposed to make every young player good?
oh no, its only the ones he hasnt sold to small clubs
- delfino_1936
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 12847
- Joined: Mon May 08, 2006 10:25 am
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Played well today, scored a cracker and played well for England in the week. I would trust Wenger and Capello's judgment over anyones in football.
- Judge Judy
- Technical Director
- Posts: 35566
- Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 7:55 pm
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
yes, the way he kept the ball at the corner flag was world class
those empty seats around emirates looked cute
those empty seats around emirates looked cute
Ingle Farm Amateur Soccer Club
Website: http://ifasc.com.au
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ifasc
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ifasc
Website: http://ifasc.com.au
Twitter: http://twitter.com/ifasc
Facebook: http://facebook.com/ifasc
- toonarmy#9
- Squad Player
- Posts: 1344
- Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:17 pm
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
JTC wrote:yes, the way he kept the ball at the corner flag was world class
those empty seats around emirates looked cute
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Just because he hasn't developed as quickly as the likes Rooney, Cesc and Messi doesn't mean he will develop into a world class player. If he wasn't English the pressure wouldn't be so great. I reckon a loan to a lower league to develop his skills would help.
-
- Apprentice
- Posts: 148
- Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:59 pm
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
i think a lower league club would be a bit harsh, maybe a mid table team in the epl that would play him week-in-week-out could do the trickToken wrote:Just because he hasn't developed as quickly as the likes Rooney, Cesc and Messi doesn't mean he will develop into a world class player. If he wasn't English the pressure wouldn't be so great. I reckon a loan to a lower league to develop his skills would help.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Smashed Croatia in Zagreb during world cup qualifier...Hatrick !delfino_1936 wrote:played well tonight
Can't be that bad.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
yeh cause 1 gd game in about 2 yrs makes him a star does it?Paokara wrote:silenced the critics last night
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
He was critisised for not being football minded, he answered those who doubted him that game. Quit being so negative, I'm sure if he was playing at Manchester you'd have a completely different view you biased clownMUFCBOY wrote:yeh cause 1 gd game in about 2 yrs makes him a star does it?Paokara wrote:silenced the critics last night
- toonarmy#9
- Squad Player
- Posts: 1344
- Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:17 pm
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
+ 1Paokara wrote:He was critisised for not being football minded, he answered those who doubted him that game. Quit being so negative, I'm sure if he was playing at Manchester you'd have a completely different view you biased clown
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Paokara wrote:He was critisised for not being football minded, he answered those who doubted him that game. Quit being so negative, I'm sure if he was playing at Manchester you'd have a completely different view you biased clownMUFCBOY wrote:yeh cause 1 gd game in about 2 yrs makes him a star does it?Paokara wrote:silenced the critics last night
At Manchester there is massive expectation on players, and if he scored 1 goal i wont be impressed unitl its a regual thing
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
MUFCBOY wrote:yeh cause 1 gd game in about 2 yrs makes him a star does it?Paokara wrote:silenced the critics last night
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
At Manchester United theres only one player that would be meeting Fergusons expectations, Wayne Rooney. I'd take Walcott over Nani anyday, im pretty sure anyone would. Everyone is acting this is the first time Walcott has performed well, he's had some brilliant games. The kids only 20 years old, nowhere near his prime and everyones got these high expectations.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
I remember some Manure supporters claiming Nani to be a superstar after he played 15-20 mins against Arsenal, what has he done before or since? Walcott had a great game after injuries set him back.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
I still reckon a lower league to let him develop without the spot light for now3lionsonashirt wrote:i think a lower league club would be a bit harsh, maybe a mid table team in the epl that would play him week-in-week-out could do the trickToken wrote:Just because he hasn't developed as quickly as the likes Rooney, Cesc and Messi doesn't mean he will develop into a world class player. If he wasn't English the pressure wouldn't be so great. I reckon a loan to a lower league to develop his skills would help.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
dont think he would even consider itToken wrote:I still reckon a lower league to let him develop without the spot light for now3lionsonashirt wrote:i think a lower league club would be a bit harsh, maybe a mid table team in the epl that would play him week-in-week-out could do the trickToken wrote:Just because he hasn't developed as quickly as the likes Rooney, Cesc and Messi doesn't mean he will develop into a world class player. If he wasn't English the pressure wouldn't be so great. I reckon a loan to a lower league to develop his skills would help.
-
- First Team Regular
- Posts: 2100
- Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:34 am
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Why the hell would he go to a lower league?? He is a world class England international, just because Chris waddle writes a little article about the lad, everyone jumps on the bandwagon. He is a very good player, simple.Token wrote:I still reckon a lower league to let him develop without the spot light for now3lionsonashirt wrote:i think a lower league club would be a bit harsh, maybe a mid table team in the epl that would play him week-in-week-out could do the trickToken wrote:Just because he hasn't developed as quickly as the likes Rooney, Cesc and Messi doesn't mean he will develop into a world class player. If he wasn't English the pressure wouldn't be so great. I reckon a loan to a lower league to develop his skills would help.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
........... :?Ian_Wright wrote:He is a world class England international.Token wrote:I still reckon a lower league to let him develop without the spot light for now3lionsonashirt wrote: i think a lower league club would be a bit harsh, maybe a mid table team in the epl that would play him week-in-week-out could do the trick
haywood djablowme wrote: I believe Arsenal have improved more than the Poo! (we are only 5 pts behind you)
-
- Coach
- Posts: 22041
- Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
- Has thanked: 231 times
- Been thanked: 67 times
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Token wrote:I still reckon a lower league to let him develop without the spot light for now3lionsonashirt wrote:i think a lower league club would be a bit harsh, maybe a mid table team in the epl that would play him week-in-week-out could do the trickToken wrote:Just because he hasn't developed as quickly as the likes Rooney, Cesc and Messi doesn't mean he will develop into a world class player. If he wasn't English the pressure wouldn't be so great. I reckon a loan to a lower league to develop his skills would help.
Great idea put him in the Championship side and watch sides kick the crap out of him and lump long balls over his head.
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
macheda > walcot
proved his worth on the big stage vs villa last yr with 1 of the goals of the season, and one that won us the title
lol@ the guy thinkin hes a world class international
u rkn him and rooney are both world class????
walcot isnt even fit enuff 2 sit on the same private jet as rooney, he should jst fly economy on easyjet IF he makes it 2 south africa
proved his worth on the big stage vs villa last yr with 1 of the goals of the season, and one that won us the title
lol@ the guy thinkin hes a world class international
u rkn him and rooney are both world class????
walcot isnt even fit enuff 2 sit on the same private jet as rooney, he should jst fly economy on easyjet IF he makes it 2 south africa
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
The problem with Walcott lately is that he hasn't been in Wenger's plans because Wenger hasn't been playing with Traditional wingers.
As more and more injuries pile up, he's been playing more and more, presumably ( and this is just an assumption) Wenger is changing his tactics to suit the players he has.
As for his recent international failure ( benched for Wright-phillips, who then came on and changed the game), it was one game.
I honestly think he's currently just suffering because he doesn't fit the team plan, and isn't getting enough time.
I wouldn't consider him world class, but i haven't really followed his progress closely up until lately.
As more and more injuries pile up, he's been playing more and more, presumably ( and this is just an assumption) Wenger is changing his tactics to suit the players he has.
As for his recent international failure ( benched for Wright-phillips, who then came on and changed the game), it was one game.
I honestly think he's currently just suffering because he doesn't fit the team plan, and isn't getting enough time.
I wouldn't consider him world class, but i haven't really followed his progress closely up until lately.
- haywood djablowme
- Star Player
- Posts: 3431
- Joined: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:42 pm
- Has thanked: 35 times
- Been thanked: 28 times
Re: Unimpressive Walcott
Blame Sven if anything! He was the one who created this pressure by taking him to the World Cup at such a young age. Sven said it was for experience but all it has created is a mountain of pressure on Theo from all English fans & the English press
Hopefully he will bag a double tomorrow morning to send us thru to the next stage of the UCL & shut the rest of you up
Hopefully he will bag a double tomorrow morning to send us thru to the next stage of the UCL & shut the rest of you up
SAASL SUNDAY PREMIER LEAGUE CHAMPION 2010 2011
SAASL CHALLENGE CUP WINNER 2008 2010 2011
SAASL CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS WINNER 2010
SAASL CICHANOWSKI SHIELD WINNER 2009 2011 2012
SAASL CHALLENGE CUP WINNER 2008 2010 2011
SAASL CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS WINNER 2010
SAASL CICHANOWSKI SHIELD WINNER 2009 2011 2012