Provisional League Structure 2010

[chunky-monkey]

Now the structure is out, surely it wont take the league too long to do fixtures, but Im sure people wont be expecting them any earlier than usuall

[The Kop]

Munno Para is already top of the table

Its all downhill from here!!....

[Token]

Not trying to stir anything up, but with Port Pirie Merging with USC Lion where will home games be at assuming that are in Div3?

[lionman]

Not trying to stir anything up, but with Port Pirie Merging with USC Lion where will home games be at assuming that are in Div3?

Think lions home games are friday nights underlights at grange

[Hawkesy]

Not trying to stir anything up, but with Port Pirie Merging with USC Lion where will home games be at assuming that are in Div3?

Think lions home games are friday nights underlights at grange

Would there not need consultation with the other teams in their SATURDAY division.

[Ginger Bread Man]

That's not the point. The point is that the SAASL made Adelaide Villa, Salisbury Villa, Adelaide Pumas, Simba of Congo etc start at the bottom. The bottom is currently Satruday Division 4. Pumas and Simba played there last year, and earned promotion into Division 3. If a team comes accross from Sunday (or vice-versa, if a team moves accross to Sunday), they should start at the bottom.
(Villa actually only did a 3 - 1 btw, they were runners-up in Division 2 )[/quote]

if ur a div 1 team....Ur a div 1 team doesnt matter what day you play on!! why place a div 1 team in div 4!!! it would be like placing metro stars into the state league!

[Die Yuppie Die]

if ur a div 1 team....Ur a div 1 team doesnt matter what day you play on!! why place a div 1 team in div 4!!! it would be like placing metro stars into the state league!

You're only a division one team in one competition. If you transfer to a different competition you're a new team in that competition.

Your metro analagy is not the same thing.

[Die Yuppie Die]

Would there not need consultation with the other teams in their SATURDAY division.

Agree. I doubt the likes of Mount Barker, Hahndorf and Strathalbyn fancy a trip to Adelaide on a friday evening.

[Donnie Brasco]

USC Lion should be starting at the bottom, just like Salisbury Villa, Adelaide Pumas, Adelaide Villa and Simba of Congo were forced to by the SAASL. Where is Simba of Congo btw?

and The Cove.

Hey Hawksey! Before you shoot your mouth off get your facts write.Adelaide Villa started in div 3 also.If i was you, i would worry about promotion seeing that it has been a few years since your club has been in Div 1.

[Donnie Brasco]

Not trying to stir anything up, but with Port Pirie Merging with USC Lion where will home games be at assuming that are in Div3?

The merg never went ahead.Lion went Sat and Pirie took lion place Sun

[Die Yuppie Die]

Not trying to stir anything up, but with Port Pirie Merging with USC Lion where will home games be at assuming that are in Div3?

The merg never went ahead.Lion went Sat and Pirie took lion place Sun

Either way it stinks.

[King Elijah]

i dont think burundi have disappeared, they just havent put them in like they missed us and simba of congo. like i said the Federation is making changes.

I hear that a few of the African clubs have moved over to the Collegiate League.....Simba of Congo apparently being one of them.

[Mister Miyagi]

if ur a div 1 team....Ur a div 1 team doesnt matter what day you play on!! why place a div 1 team in div 4!!! it would be like placing metro stars into the state league!

So if St Peters, Wanderers and Sturt all decide to move to sunday they should go into division one in a thirteen team division?

[Token]

Not trying to stir anything up, but with Port Pirie Merging with USC Lion where will home games be at assuming that are in Div3?

The merg never went ahead.Lion went Sat and Pirie took lion place Sun

Interesting, means there is a local derby between USC and Monarchs.

[Kitchimo]

USC Lion should be starting at the bottom, just like Salisbury Villa, Adelaide Pumas, Adelaide Villa and Simba of Congo were forced to by the SAASL. Where is Simba of Congo btw?

and The Cove.

Hey Hawksey! Before you shoot your mouth off get your facts write.Adelaide Villa started in div 3 also.If i was you, i would worry about promotion seeing that it has been a few years since your club has been in Div 1.

Donnie Brasco, at the time the lowest Saturday First and Reserves Division was Div 3, which is why Villa went there.

[lionman]

USC Lion should be starting at the bottom, just like Salisbury Villa, Adelaide Pumas, Adelaide Villa and Simba of Congo were forced to by the SAASL. Where is Simba of Congo btw?

Hey Hawksey! Before you shoot your mouth off get your facts write.Adelaide Villa started in div 3 also.If i was you, i would worry about promotion seeing that it has been a few years since your club has been in Div 1.

EXACTLY villa started at div 3 and there was a div 4 that year, so if a div 1 sat team changed to sunday comp they would start in div 8! Yeh right ya clowns
Concentrate on trying to win Div 2 reserves or something you blokes, your making your club look like a bunch of sooks

[Die Yuppie Die]

EXACTLY villa started at div 3 and there was a div 4 that year, so if a div 1 sat team changed to sunday comp they would start in div 8! Yeh right ya clowns

Division 8 is a C team division.

Division 4 that season was a C team division. Villa started at the bottom.

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

i dont think burundi have disappeared, they just havent put them in like they missed us and simba of congo. like i said the Federation is making changes.

I hear that a few of the African clubs have moved over to the Collegiate League.....Simba of Congo apparently being one of them.

My info is that Burundi and Simba have merged and moved to the collegiates.

[Hawkesy]

USC Lion should be starting at the bottom, just like Salisbury Villa, Adelaide Pumas, Adelaide Villa and Simba of Congo were forced to by the SAASL. Where is Simba of Congo btw?

and The Cove.

Hey Hawksey! Before you shoot your mouth off get your facts write.Adelaide Villa started in div 3 also.If i was you, i would worry about promotion seeing that it has been a few years since your club has been in Div 1.

we were only relegated in 08 next.

villa went into div 3, the lowest division for clubs with 2 sides. Div 4 was for C teams. NEXT

Last season Pumas and Simba came across, into whivh division?

Pumas, simba, s. villa, a.villa, cove... all started in the bottom 2 division. I ask again, what makes USC Lion so different?

So far the strongest team to come across is A. Villa and they had to start at the bottom.

[Hawkesy]

USC Lion should be starting at the bottom, just like Salisbury Villa, Adelaide Pumas, Adelaide Villa and Simba of Congo were forced to by the SAASL. Where is Simba of Congo btw?

and The Cove.

Hey Hawksey! Before you shoot your mouth off get your facts write.Adelaide Villa started in div 3 also.If i was you, i would worry about promotion seeing that it has been a few years since your club has been in Div 1.

i never realised the words "and cove" were quite so inflammatory.


A question for you: Did Villa go into the lowest division they were eligible for? (I will allow you to answer for salisbury or adelaide villa)

[Aldo Serena]

EXACTLY villa started at div 3 and there was a div 4 that year, so if a div 1 sat team changed to sunday comp they would start in div 8! Yeh right ya clowns
Concentrate on trying to win Div 2 reserves or something you blokes, your making your club look like a bunch of sooks

Mate, you are the clown.

Division Three was the lowest A&B division at the time.

The lowest A&B division on Sundays is Division Five at the moment, and that is where a new club (or one switching from Saturday) should start. Ultimately, it is clear to see the SAASL has done a deal with Port Pirie and USC Lion - Port Pirie would not have joined the SAASL if they were made to start in Div 5. I just don't understand why they can't admit it??

[Vale_boy05]

if ur a div 1 team....Ur a div 1 team doesnt matter what day you play on!! why place a div 1 team in div 4!!! it would be like placing metro stars into the state league!

So if St Peters, Wanderers and Sturt all decide to move to sunday they should go into division one in a thirteen team division?

That is a really dumb question, why is it so hard for everyone to get there little heads around it???

USC went Sat, Pirie took there place and commen sence pre VALE d

[Kitchimo]

if ur a div 1 team....Ur a div 1 team doesnt matter what day you play on!! why place a div 1 team in div 4!!! it would be like placing metro stars into the state league!

So if St Peters, Wanderers and Sturt all decide to move to sunday they should go into division one in a thirteen team division?

That is a really dumb question, why is it so hard for everyone to get there little heads around it???

USC went Sat, Pirie took there place and commen sence pre VALE d

Did commone sense pre VALE last year when Western Strikers were put in Division 5 and dominated pretty much every game by 6+ goals?

[swannsong]

Let's have a look at this thing....
Port Pirie did not want to be kicked out of the FFSA competition, it was not their choice.
SAASL have been strong enough to make a tough call to allow a Club, established long before most Amateur clubs, to continue at a level befitting Pirie’s stature. As I am now involved with a Sunday Division 2 club, this decision will have some impact on Southern Knights and the other teams in that division…one club may miss out on promotion or may be relegated at the end of 2010 due to Pirie’s inclusion…..but that’s football.
Hypothetically, placing Pirie in a lower division might have disadvantaged other lower division clubs denying them a promotion opportunity.
USC Lion have struggled a bit of late and are themselves a well established club, if the SAASL management committee has brokered a deal to appease both Clubs and permit Piries to continue on in the SAASL, I commend them for it, maybe not the right decision for all, but one that required some balls to make.
I think there are a lot of people out there whingeing about the decision…..but that’s football (what would football be without whingeing !)
Brokered deals happen all the time in business, law, government…chin up and move on IMO

[Kitchimo]

Let's have a look at this thing....
Port Pirie did not want to be kicked out of the FFSA competition, it was not their choice.
SAASL have been strong enough to make a tough call to allow a Club, established long before most Amateur clubs, to continue at a level befitting Pirie’s stature. As I am now involved with a Sunday Division 2 club, this decision will have some impact on Southern Knights and the other teams in that division…one club may miss out on promotion or may be relegated at the end of 2010 due to Pirie’s inclusion…..but that’s football.
Hypothetically, placing Pirie in a lower division might have disadvantaged other lower division clubs denying them a promotion opportunity.
USC Lion have struggled a bit of late and are themselves a well established club, if the SAASL management committee has brokered a deal to appease both Clubs and permit Piries to continue on in the SAASL, I commend them for it, maybe not the right decision for all, but one that required some balls to make.
I think there are a lot of people out there whingeing about the decision…..but that’s football (what would football be without whingeing !)
Brokered deals happen all the time in business, law, government…chin up and move on IMO

Clubs on Saturdays have consistently been denied promotion opportunities by much better and more deserving clubs being placed at the bottom. Adelaide Villa and Salisbury Villa were ridiculously made to start at the bottom (Division 3 at the time). Adelaide Villa beat another team 22-0 if I remember correctly. The SAASL continued the precedent this year with Adelaide Pumas going into the bottom division (Division 4 at the time).

To call it "just football" is a cop out - it means one rule for some, and one rule for the rest of the league. Port Pirie and USC should either be one merged club in Sunday Division 2, or they should both be starting in Sunday Division 5 and Saturday Division 4 respectively.

[swannsong]

Let's have a look at this thing....
Port Pirie did not want to be kicked out of the FFSA competition, it was not their choice.
SAASL have been strong enough to make a tough call to allow a Club, established long before most Amateur clubs, to continue at a level befitting Pirie’s stature. As I am now involved with a Sunday Division 2 club, this decision will have some impact on Southern Knights and the other teams in that division…one club may miss out on promotion or may be relegated at the end of 2010 due to Pirie’s inclusion…..but that’s football.
Hypothetically, placing Pirie in a lower division might have disadvantaged other lower division clubs denying them a promotion opportunity.
USC Lion have struggled a bit of late and are themselves a well established club, if the SAASL management committee has brokered a deal to appease both Clubs and permit Piries to continue on in the SAASL, I commend them for it, maybe not the right decision for all, but one that required some balls to make.
I think there are a lot of people out there whingeing about the decision…..but that’s football (what would football be without whingeing !)
Brokered deals happen all the time in business, law, government…chin up and move on IMO

Clubs on Saturdays have consistently been denied promotion opportunities by much better and more deserving clubs being placed at the bottom. Adelaide Villa and Salisbury Villa were ridiculously made to start at the bottom (Division 3 at the time). Adelaide Villa beat another team 22-0 if I remember correctly. The SAASL continued the precedent this year with Adelaide Pumas going into the bottom division (Division 4 at the time).

To call it "just football" is a cop out - it means one rule for some, and one rule for the rest of the league. Port Pirie and USC should either be one merged club in Sunday Division 2, or they should both be starting in Sunday Division 5 and Saturday Division 4 respectively.

One big difference, this whole thing involves introducing an established, homeless FFSA club being taken in by the SAASL and a means to achieve that end...like I said it happens in all areas of business, law etc...why should football be so sacred.

[Die Yuppie Die]

To call it "just football" is a cop out - it means one rule for some, and one rule for the rest of the league. Port Pirie and USC should either be one merged club in Sunday Division 2, or they should both be starting in Sunday Division 5 and Saturday Division 4 respectively.

Totally agree.

[Jay Walking]

Let's have a look at this thing....
Port Pirie did not want to be kicked out of the FFSA competition, it was not their choice.
SAASL have been strong enough to make a tough call to allow a Club, established long before most Amateur clubs, to continue at a level befitting Pirie’s stature. As I am now involved with a Sunday Division 2 club, this decision will have some impact on Southern Knights and the other teams in that division…one club may miss out on promotion or may be relegated at the end of 2010 due to Pirie’s inclusion…..but that’s football.
Hypothetically, placing Pirie in a lower division might have disadvantaged other lower division clubs denying them a promotion opportunity.
USC Lion have struggled a bit of late and are themselves a well established club, if the SAASL management committee has brokered a deal to appease both Clubs and permit Piries to continue on in the SAASL, I commend them for it, maybe not the right decision for all, but one that required some balls to make.
I think there are a lot of people out there whingeing about the decision…..but that’s football (what would football be without whingeing !)
Brokered deals happen all the time in business, law, government…chin up and move on IMO

Clubs on Saturdays have consistently been denied promotion opportunities by much better and more deserving clubs being placed at the bottom. Adelaide Villa and Salisbury Villa were ridiculously made to start at the bottom (Division 3 at the time). Adelaide Villa beat another team 22-0 if I remember correctly. The SAASL continued the precedent this year with Adelaide Pumas going into the bottom division (Division 4 at the time).

To call it "just football" is a cop out - it means one rule for some, and one rule for the rest of the league. Port Pirie and USC should either be one merged club in Sunday Division 2, or they should both be starting in Sunday Division 5 and Saturday Division 4 respectively.

One big difference, this whole thing involves introducing an established, homeless FFSA club being taken in by the SAASL and a means to achieve that end...like I said it happens in all areas of business, law etc...why should football be so sacred.

The only reason it occured was because an opportunity presented itself when USC pulled out of the comp. It created a spare spot which Pirie took.

As for the lower divisions, if its a club's third team then we should call it a C Team league, not division 6 etc

[bigpond]

Did commone sense pre VALE last year when Western Strikers were put in Division 5 and dominated pretty much every game by 6+ goals?

Get over it with this Pirie thing.

Western Strikers wont be around in 3 to 4 years as we know it - they will hit a wall soon as they go higher up and the group gets older - u think all players from Super League strikers team will end up there? if this was the case then Beograd, Croatia and Blue Eagles would be in Div 1 by now but it doesn't work that way.

With Port Pirie they will be around for the next 40 years as there history shows and will be a strong team as they have the money and are backed by the local community.

Get over this whinging - if any teams should be whinging it should be the teams in Div 2 like Knights, Inter etc who think they are a chance to go up as Pirie has made it that much harder now.

I think it is a great coup for the League to have Pirie in under the SAASL banner.

[Jay Walking]

Did commone sense pre VALE last year when Western Strikers were put in Division 5 and dominated pretty much every game by 6+ goals?

Get over it with this Pirie thing.

Western Strikers wont be around in 3 to 4 years as we know it - they will hit a wall soon as they go higher up and the group gets older - u think all players from Super League strikers team will end up there? if this was the case then Beograd, Croatia and Blue Eagles would be in Div 1 by now but it doesn't work that way.

With Port Pirie they will be around for the next 40 years as there history shows and will be a strong team as they have the money and are backed by the local community.

Get over this whinging - if any teams should be whinging it should be the teams in Div 2 like Knights, Inter etc who think they are a chance to go up as Pirie has made it that much harder now.

I think it is a great coup for the League to have Pirie in under the SAASL banner.

Plus its a great road trip. It will make for an interesting year in Div 2.