Everton's Fellaini out for season

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Litmanen wrote:
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The Kop wrote:for fucks sake i cant believe the level of debate on this over and over and over and over again, the concept is not hard to undertand at all.

HE WAS BOUGHT AS A F-O-U-R-T-H CHOICE CENTRE BACK!!

he plays now and then, why?
Glen Johnson is injured, Cags moves to RB.
Skrtl is having a barry of a year.
Aggar is doing his best impression of Darren Anderton this year.

1.5m
over 50 intl caps for his country
wears heart on his sleeve
bargain in anyones language for 4th choice.

He is not to be compared with Vidic, Terry & Gallas but more like Johnny Evans or De Laet, Silvestre or Sol Campbell (yes he is about 4th choice eh!) and Chelsea's 4th choice centre back Bruma who ive never heard of.

This should finalise all debates on worthyness...........
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This post really should have ended all discussion. He's right, with the possible exception of Bruma being 4th choice CB for Chelsea. Whilst Ivanovic is normally a fullback, hes capable of playing CB and would surely be picked there ahead of Bruma or any other unknowns.
You still should have kept Hyypia instead though.
You won't get any argument from me there. But people coming on here and shouting about how Kyrgiakos is crap really are braindead. He's a bloody good signing for fourth choice.
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Dan Agger wrote:
You won't get any argument from me there. But people coming on here and shouting about how Kyrgiakos is crap really are braindead. He's a bloody good signing for fourth choice.
Kyrgiakos isn't bad and he isn't good.

Just another average player playing for an average team.
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El Capitano wrote:
Dan Agger wrote:
You won't get any argument from me there. But people coming on here and shouting about how Kyrgiakos is crap really are braindead. He's a bloody good signing for fourth choice.
Kyrgiakos isn't bad and he isn't good.

Just another average player playing for an average team.
failed bait attempt :D atleast he doesnt shit himself when he see's torres
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The Kop wrote:^
Probably. Dissapointed such a loyal servent didnt get the additional year he wanted.
However, that is beside the point.
Hyypia's only problem was that he was too slow. He was never lightning quick in the first place, but anyway...
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El Capitano wrote:Kyrgiakos isn't bad and he isn't good.

Just another average player playing for an average team.
failed bait attempt :D atleast he doesnt cabernet himself when he see's torres
Nice. Pwned. :D
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lol @ you dumb jerks being dumb and jerk like
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arxidia wrote:lol @ you dumb jerks being dumb and jerk like
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totsreds08 wrote:
El Capitano wrote:
Dan Agger wrote:
You won't get any argument from me there. But people coming on here and shouting about how Kyrgiakos is crap really are braindead. He's a bloody good signing for fourth choice.
Kyrgiakos isn't bad and he isn't good.

Just another average player playing for an average team.
failed bait attempt :D atleast he doesnt cabernet himself when he see's torres
he probably would if he had to come up against him

and in reply to the other post about comparing him to johnny evans thats a croc evans is way better then him and is at the start of his career
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totsreds08 wrote:failed bait attempt :D atleast he doesnt cabernet himself when he see's torres
Just when he see's Rooney
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The Kop wrote:^
Probably. Dissapointed such a loyal servent didnt get the additional year he wanted.
However, that is beside the point.

But when an experienced defender who's 4th choice leaves, expectedly he will be replaced like for like.

And as above:
1.5m
over 50 caps for greece
plenty of european experience
lower wage than hyypia and 4 years younger.

good move.
how, hyypia is playing better, his partnership with friedrich is one of the reason leverkusen are doing so well
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I don't think anyone is saying that selling Hyypia was a good idea right?
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It is completely impossible to say player x in this league is playing better that player y in another.

Its like saying Pique is playing better than say Cheillini. How could you make that assesment with any accuracy?

Look at it this way, the amount of times Kyrgiakos was called up (when the other options ahead of him were unavailable) has he made a positive or negative contribution to the team? The overwhelming consensus is he has made a positive one.
Case closed.

Still cant see why we're going round in circles.
- Hyypia left because he wasnt offered a long term deal at age 34;
- Liverpool need to replace him, and only realised this in the last week of the transfer window;
- Liverpool bought Kyrgiakos for a friggin bargain, after the decision was made to let Hyypia go. Its not like they bought Soti and then have Sami the flick.

A bit of common sense please......
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Litmanen wrote:I don't think anyone is saying that selling Hyypia was a good idea right?
Hyypia wasnt sold. He was offered 1 year contract but wanted 2. And left on a bosman.
Liverpool werent willing to commit to have Sami on their books till age 36.

As a reaction they went and signed someone who is 4 years younger and has done the same job (4th choice) and at the same level of performance.


Some common sense x 2 please....
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The Kop wrote:
Litmanen wrote:I don't think anyone is saying that selling Hyypia was a good idea right?
Hyypia wasnt sold. He was offered 1 year contract but wanted 2. And left on a bosman.
Liverpool werent willing to commit to have Sami on their books till age 36.

As a reaction they went and signed someone who is 4 years younger and has done the same job (4th choice) and at the same level of performance.


Some common sense x 2 please....

Hyypia has won the CL, FA cup, played EPL for ten years, and you're telling me that Kyrgiakos can do the same job? I don't think Kyrgiakos is good enough to do what Hyypia has been doing in the Bundesliga this season.

Now all that is my opinion, so i'm not saying i'm right, all i'm saying is the way i see it,

You've let a guy go for free who's been part of the club for so long, then spent money on someone to do the same job who has less pedigree, and isn't really an investment for the future.

This is why Man U have such good depth too, Giggs,scholes, neville etc are still there and are great bench players and when in form slide into the first XI. With all the injuries Hyypia being an old head could have been invaluable this season.

That's why i don't think it was a good idea anyway..
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I dont disagree.
All along I've said Hyppia should have been treated with more respect.

However, he leaves. What do you expect to be done?
Whether the 4th choice defender is 10%-20%-50% worse than the previous 4th choice probably isnt going to make a difference the scheme of things.

Hyppia is doing well in Leverkusen, but say next year at this age could compete in the EPL? Liverpool thought no.

Its worth noting that Kyrgiakos is an accomplished player in the Bundesliga also. Big fan favourite at Frankfurt.
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toonarmy#9 wrote:
totsreds08 wrote:failed bait attempt :D atleast he doesnt cabernet himself when he see's torres
Just when he see's Rooney
well how many times has kyrgiakos seen rooney?
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just watched evans, the bloke is a plonka, how you can compare him to agger is beyond me
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JTC wrote:just watched evans, the bloke is a plonka, how you can compare him to agger is beyond me
true that, what a kreas :lol: he isnt good enuf to tie up soti's boot laces :wink:
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JTC wrote:just watched evans, the bloke is a plonka, how you can compare him to agger is beyond me
lol was thinking the same
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now i'm more awake, i reiterate my point. you mancs can stop pulling yourselves, evans is a championship defender at best
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I noticed Ivanovic played Centre back this week, and Bruma came on for Zhirkov late due to injury.

So officially Ivanovic is the 4th choice CB.
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The one and only wrote: and in reply to the other post about comparing him to johnny evans thats a croc evans is way better then him and is at the start of his career
:lol: :lol: :lol: That is a joke one and only isnt it??? Good joke though :lol:

Evans is the biggest KREAS at Manchester United, id rather pluck one of your spectators out of the front row and wouldnt be surprised if that spectator gave you more than Evans :wink: :lol:
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COLOSSUS wrote:
The one and only wrote: and in reply to the other post about comparing him to johnny evans thats a croc evans is way better then him and is at the start of his career
:lol: :lol: :lol: That is a joke one and only isnt it??? Good joke though :lol:

Evans is the biggest KREAS at Manchester United, id rather pluck one of your spectators out of the front row and wouldnt be surprised if that spectator gave you more than Evans :wink: :lol:
Ferguson rates him highly so that probably means he will go on to have a successful career at the club and win loads of trophy's.

So I suppose it doesn't really matter if you don't think he's that good having seen him in a couple of games!

Jealousy amongst fans is always funny to see
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Jimbob wrote:
COLOSSUS wrote:
The one and only wrote: and in reply to the other post about comparing him to johnny evans thats a croc evans is way better then him and is at the start of his career
:lol: :lol: :lol: That is a joke one and only isnt it??? Good joke though :lol:

Evans is the biggest KREAS at Manchester United, id rather pluck one of your spectators out of the front row and wouldnt be surprised if that spectator gave you more than Evans :wink: :lol:
Ferguson rates him highly so that probably means he will go on to have a successful career at the club and win loads of trophy's.

So I suppose it doesn't really matter if you don't think he's that good having seen him in a couple of games!

Jealousy amongst fans is always funny to see
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Jimbob wrote:Ferguson rates him highly so that probably means he will go on to have a successful career at the club and win loads of trophy's.

So I suppose it doesn't really matter if you don't think he's that good having seen him in a couple of games!

Jealousy amongst fans is always funny to see
He's fucking shit!
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Jimbob wrote:
Ferguson rates him highly so that probably means he will go on to have a successful career at the club and win loads of trophy's.

So I suppose it doesn't really matter if you don't think he's that good having seen him in a couple of games!

Jealousy amongst fans is always funny to see
Sorry mate, but Evans is a donkey.

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