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I'm so happy that you all agree. Gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of being loved. I have sent my CV to Messrs Hicks and Gillett but heard nothing yet. :lol:

More seriously, I don't expect any manager to sign only stars, irrespective of how much money they have, but Rafa's problem is that his signings have pretty much either been brilliant or awful with not much in between. So if his brilliant players are injured, out of form or whatever, the rest look pretty ordinary. It's hard to overestimate how much difference a fully fit and flying Stevie G makes to that team.

The strange thing to me is, just about everyone I know, who's not a Pool fan, has been saying for a couple of seasons that they were a two man team (we didn't realise either how important Alonso was), but Rafa seemed to just ignore it or be unaware of the impending problem. I do think he's trying to address this with the purchase of Aquilani and Rodriguez but he's left it late. They are the sort of players (not superstars but solid pros) he should have been buying 2 years ago.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:I'm so happy that you all agree. Gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of being loved. I have sent my CV to Messrs Hicks and Gillett but heard nothing yet. :lol:

More seriously, I don't expect any manager to sign only stars, irrespective of how much money they have, but Rafa's problem is that his signings have pretty much either been brilliant or awful with not much in between. So if his brilliant players are injured, out of form or whatever, the rest look pretty ordinary. It's hard to overestimate how much difference a fully fit and flying Stevie G makes to that team.

The strange thing to me is, just about everyone I know, who's not a Pool fan, has been saying for a couple of seasons that they were a two man team (we didn't realise either how important Alonso was), but Rafa seemed to just ignore it or be unaware of the impending problem. I do think he's trying to address this with the purchase of Aquilani and Rodriguez but he's left it late. They are the sort of players (not superstars but solid pros) he should have been buying 2 years ago.
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Baptista to Inter!
Bit of over kill IMO, signed a better striker in Pandev, dont really need him.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:I'm so happy that you all agree. Gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling of being loved. I have sent my CV to Messrs Hicks and Gillett but heard nothing yet. :lol:

More seriously, I don't expect any manager to sign only stars, irrespective of how much money they have, but Rafa's problem is that his signings have pretty much either been brilliant or awful with not much in between. So if his brilliant players are injured, out of form or whatever, the rest look pretty ordinary. It's hard to overestimate how much difference a fully fit and flying Stevie G makes to that team.

The strange thing to me is, just about everyone I know, who's not a Pool fan, has been saying for a couple of seasons that they were a two man team (we didn't realise either how important Alonso was), but Rafa seemed to just ignore it or be unaware of the impending problem. I do think he's trying to address this with the purchase of Aquilani and Rodriguez but he's left it late. They are the sort of players (not superstars but solid pros) he should have been buying 2 years ago.
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Ok, im sorry to add more comments about Liverpools poor form and management but i feel i have to! Rafa looks like he is going to be swaping Ryan Babel for Kenwyne Jones of Sunderland!!! What is his problem?? Yes, Babel has not been the greatest but exchanging him for a mediocre striker from a mediocre team?? Surely not! Is he completely blind when it comes to picking quality for a team that should be challengig for the title!!
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Ian_Wright wrote:Ok, im sorry to add more comments about Liverpools poor form and management but i feel i have to! Rafa looks like he is going to be swaping Ryan Babel for Kenwyne Jones of Sunderland!!! What is his problem?? Yes, Babel has not been the greatest but exchanging him for a mediocre striker from a mediocre team?? Surely not! Is he completely blind when it comes to picking quality for a team that should be challengig for the title!!
TBH I rate Kenwyn Jones. If it was a straight swap, Babel for Jones, I'd go for that. Babel is a donkey, Jones is quality IMO.
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:shock:

don't want either of them
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I hope Liverpool get to keep Babel and get Kenwyn Jones and then make an offer for Geoff Thomas to come out of retirement and maybe Carlton Palmer, Darius Vassell, Keith Curle and all the other crap players that have disgraced other teams then we may get our wish and see "history and tradition" playing for the last bit of league silverware they won - in the Championship!!!!!
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so sick of this liverpool forum

everything just turns into talk about rafa and more people saying Alonso this, Alonso that

simple fact of the matter is, a quality team will continue to win games when they lose a big player like Alonso

take Man United for instance, Ronaldo is a far more dominant player then Alonso, yes they dont play in the same position but how can one man be responsible for your poor form

you got lucky last year, cant see you getting anywhere near the top 2 with the current coach, imo he is the reason you guys are playing poor, not Alonso or the injuries (you won without torres and gerrard last year)

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INTERISTA wrote:Baptista to Inter!
Bit of over kill IMO, signed a better striker in Pandev, dont really need him.
Nothing official has been released and can only hope it stays that way. I can't see what he could possibly add to our squad.
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Chelsea4thewin wrote:so sick of this liverpool forum

everything just turns into talk about rafa and more people saying Alonso this, Alonso that

simple fact of the matter is, a quality team will continue to win games when they lose a big player like Alonso

take Man United for instance, Ronaldo is a far more dominant player then Alonso, yes they dont play in the same position but how can one man be responsible for your poor form

you got lucky last year, cant see you getting anywhere near the top 2 with the current coach, imo he is the reason you guys are playing poor, not Alonso or the injuries (you won without torres and gerrard last year)

rant over
ronaldo was prolific in scoring goals. if it weren't for players like scholes, giggs, fletcher, carrick he wouldn't of even gotten much of the ball. the reason why liverpool can't win games or kill them off is because we don't create many chances as lucas isn't as good as alonso. you can't win games unless you create chances and for the last time no we were not lucky, we had character. we fought to the end in most games and got the result. we played brilliant football and we had confidence. something we lack this year. liverpool is a big topic on this forum because most non pools supporters like to give us shit as they envy just how great our club has been in the past
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totsreds08 wrote:
Chelsea4thewin wrote:so sick of this liverpool forum

everything just turns into talk about rafa and more people saying Alonso this, Alonso that

simple fact of the matter is, a quality team will continue to win games when they lose a big player like Alonso

take Man United for instance, Ronaldo is a far more dominant player then Alonso, yes they dont play in the same position but how can one man be responsible for your poor form

you got lucky last year, cant see you getting anywhere near the top 2 with the current coach, imo he is the reason you guys are playing poor, not Alonso or the injuries (you won without torres and gerrard last year)

rant over
ronaldo was prolific in scoring goals. if it weren't for players like scholes, giggs, fletcher, carrick he wouldn't of even gotten much of the ball. the reason why liverpool can't win games or kill them off is because we don't create many chances as lucas isn't as good as alonso. you can't win games unless you create chances and for the last time no we were not lucky, we had character. we fought to the end in most games and got the result. we played brilliant football and we had confidence. something we lack this year. liverpool is a big topic on this forum because most non pools supporters like to give us cabernet as they envy just how great our club has been in the past

u said it :P
But seriously, pools problem is that there players can lift for the big games, but cant get motivated for the smaller games
i think rafa has to go, and ill be tryin really hard 2 get either guus or jose if i was liverpool.... i hope they get guus, cause i want jose at Old Trafford when Fergie retires
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i thought this was a transfer thread not a liverpool thread
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toonarmy#9 wrote:i thought this was a transfer thread not a liverpool thread
you thought wrong :wink:
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Chelsea4thewin wrote:so sick of this liverpool forum

everything just turns into talk about rafa and more people saying Alonso this, Alonso that

simple fact of the matter is, a quality team will continue to win games when they lose a big player like Alonso

take Man United for instance, Ronaldo is a far more dominant player then Alonso, yes they dont play in the same position but how can one man be responsible for your poor form

you got lucky last year, cant see you getting anywhere near the top 2 with the current coach, imo he is the reason you guys are playing poor, not Alonso or the injuries (you won without torres and gerrard last year)

rant over
ronaldo was prolific in scoring goals. if it weren't for players like scholes, giggs, fletcher, carrick he wouldn't of even gotten much of the ball. the reason why liverpool can't win games or kill them off is because we don't create many chances as lucas isn't as good as alonso. you can't win games unless you create chances and for the last time no we were not lucky, we had character. we fought to the end in most games and got the result. we played brilliant football and we had confidence. something we lack this year. liverpool is a big topic on this forum because most non pools supporters like to give us cabernet as they envy just how great our club has been in the past

u said it :P
But seriously, pools problem is that there players can lift for the big games, but cant get motivated for the smaller games
i think rafa has to go, and ill be tryin really hard 2 get either guus or jose if i was liverpool.... i hope they get guus, cause i want jose at Old Trafford when Fergie retires
thats what i have said. in big games alonso was always up for it regardless of his form/confidence whereas lucas gets nervous if he isn't playing well. he also drops his head if we fall behind while alonso would lif the team.
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Back on topic but still about Liverpool. Hardly a scoop but reports in England say that Rafa will sign Kenwyne Jones on loan from Sunderland today.

I must say, I'm a bit surprised that Bruce would let him go tbh.
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A question for Napoli fans....Datolo to Olympiakos...what happened here?
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Kunta Kintay wrote:A question for Napoli fans....Datolo to Olympiakos...what happened here?
On loan until the end of the season.

Aronica has been keeping him out of the side, and Datolo was keen for game time to push for a World Cup spot.
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Nice One Cyril wrote:Back on topic but still about Liverpool. Hardly a scoop but reports in England say that Rafa will sign Kenwyne Jones on loan from Sunderland today.

I must say, I'm a bit surprised that Bruce would let him go tbh.
I agree makes no sense.
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what is it with these average joes that rafa is looking at?

is he saying "okay, don't give me more money, i'll sign what i can for what money i'm allocated"?
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I personally think Jones is quite a good player tobeh !
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ronaldo07 wrote:I personally think Jones is quite a good player tobeh !
There is a reason he plays for Sunderland.
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A-Mac wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:I personally think Jones is quite a good player tobeh !
There is a reason he plays for Sunderland.
Kevin Philips, James Beattie, even Doyle once become the top 3 scorer in EPL few seasons ago .. and where are they now ??
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ronaldo07 wrote:Kevin Philips, James Beattie, even Doyle once become the top 3 scorer in EPL few seasons ago .. and where are they now ??
Your point?
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A-Mac wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:Kevin Philips, James Beattie, even Doyle once become the top 3 scorer in EPL few seasons ago .. and where are they now ??
Your point?
Didn't he just disprove his own point...? :?
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A-Mac wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:Kevin Philips, James Beattie, even Doyle once become the top 3 scorer in EPL few seasons ago .. and where are they now ??
Your point?
my point is - just because u play for a mediocre team, doesn't mean u cant be good .. those players are the top 3 scorers for few seasons and they play for midiocre team !!
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I've always rated Kenwyn Jones as a player with a huge amount of potential, that hasn't fulfilled it - much the same is Ryan Babel.
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Etiënne Esajas wrote:I've always rated Kenwyn Jones as a player with a huge amount of potential, that hasn't fulfilled it - much the same is Ryan Babel.
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Danny Welbeck to Preston on loan for the rest of season
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Marco Ruben to Wigan from Villarreal
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