goal shouldn't have been allowed........fkkkkkk offff france

[Nice One Cyril]

Note to Col.

Quote from Manu Petit (who, as a friend and ex colleague of Henry's I would trust more than Sportal).

"There is a referee on the pitch and if he didn't see that's not France's problem.

Owning up is impossible. Some players could do that but most won't because the pressure and stakes are so high."

Quote from Lee Dixon (who, as a friend and ex colleague of Henry's I would trust more than Sportal).

He's in a really difficult situation but he's put himself in that position so let's not feel too sorry for him.

In a perfect world it would be lovely if players owned up to the referee in incidents like this but I can never see it happening.

There's so much riding on these games that the fear of owning up is bigger than keeping your silence.

No mention of any mitigating circumstances like owning up to the ref then?

[COLOSSUS]

get off it col he cheated if he admits to a deliberate handful then its admission to cheating, no two ways around it.... sure ireeland didn't take their chances but this goal shouldn't have been allowed, fifa will stay silent and no blame will go to the officials who are at fault, i think the officials should be banned and the game replayed, i have said this a few times now but nothing will happen and blatter fifa eufa and platini got their way... the playoffs where a shambles as the seeding was done to make sure the big nations were there in sa in 2010 to appease networks who have paid millions for tv rights... all polotics col and they one this time, lets see how quickly fifa sweep this one under the rug as they wont want it going on like the eduardo saga

So there is no such thing as accidental hand ball??? Only deliberate??? He didnt admit to deliberately handling the ball but rather he admitted that indeed the ball touched his hand. Again, they are 2 very different things. Now lets say he did deliberately handle the ball, that doesnt change the fact that the referees are inept, or that you had more than enough chances to win the game. To ask for a full replay of the game because of 1 decision is bloody ridiculous, sorry DOC but it is. Do we also replay the A-League grand final because of 1 inept referee whose diabolical decision 10 minutes into a Grand Final decisively changed the whole of that game??? Or do we replay the game that helped secure Arsenal a Champions League berth after a shocking decision by the referee to award a penalty for what seemed a clear dive??? Come on mate, get a grip here. I understand your distraught, and i also would be but logic tells you that Football has funny ways of throwing up results and you need to accept this as thats just how it is. What if Ireland took its chances, What if the referee saw the hand ball. Thats Football dude, theres what ifs and theres winners, unfortunately for you this time, its some what ifs

You've talked some cabernet on here for a while but this really takes the cake

in this day and age if someone deliberately and obviously cheats to win a game and we can cleary see it then FIFA should have power to do something


spare me the whole perception thing

But thats exactly my point Knight7. You guys are on here calling Henry a cheat when the facts reamin there are referees to stop players from doing the wrong thing, and then there is your own team to blame who missed numerous clear cut chances that not only would of put the game beyond doubt, but would of made Henrys hand ball an insignificant moment of the game whereas because of inept referees and inept Irish fisnishing, Henrys hand ball becomes the major talking point of the game. Thats whats bollocks here pal, not Henry

So Greece should ask for a replay of the 1994 WC group game v Argentina because Maradona had an advantage over his opponents because he was coked up??? Get the fark out of here, you guys are unbelievable

[COLOSSUS]

Note to Col.

Quote from Manu Petit (who, as a friend and ex colleague of Henry's I would trust more than Sportal).

"There is a referee on the pitch and if he didn't see that's not France's problem.

Owning up is impossible. Some players could do that but most won't because the pressure and stakes are so high."

Quote from Lee Dixon (who, as a friend and ex colleague of Henry's I would trust more than Sportal).

He's in a really difficult situation but he's put himself in that position so let's not feel too sorry for him.

In a perfect world it would be lovely if players owned up to the referee in incidents like this but I can never see it happening.

There's so much riding on these games that the fear of owning up is bigger than keeping your silence.

No mention of any mitigating circumstances like owning up to the ref then?

Listen im not really pushing the whole cheating issue. To me, there is no cheating in Football, you do what you have to to get your team across the line. There are referees who control the rights and wrongs of players so for me this whole cheating thing isnt even an option. My point Cyril is and always has been that the Irish and their supporters have blatantly launched an unnecessary attack on an opposition player when the player was only doing what any other player would do. If he gets away with it, good luck to him. Is it Henrys fault that a) the referee and his assistant are both blind??? or b) that the Irish couldnt put away their numerous clear cut chances to win the game long before Gallas's extra time winner??? If the answer is NO to both of those then Henry is cleared for me. Thats my whole point, this Henry cheating business is absolute bulldust and they know it. How many dives do players take in and out of the penalty bo to claim an advantage??? How many defenders hold their opponents shirts in the penalty are from a corner to gain an advantage??? How many players handle the ball to gain an advantage??? How many players blatantly bring down players to gain an advantage??? Is that all CHEATING??? No its called part of the game. Id rather see players banned for life for intentionally breaking another leg than for this garbage some of them are talking about. See where im at now Cyril??? Thats what im talking about mate

[sparrow]

fuck me, blatant cheating nothing else. Colossus stop giving the benefit of the doubt to Henry. It's over. France are in, Ireland out, Platini the tosspot is happy. Henry is a fucking disgrace but nothing can be done.
I understand you defending him though, supporting the most corrupt, cheating side in world football. Not that I know much about Greek football, nor do I care, but you guys are the biggest bitches around.

[COLOSSUS]

shiraz me, blatant cheating nothing else. Colossus stop giving the benefit of the doubt to Henry. It's over. France are in, Ireland out, Platini the tosspot is happy. Henry is a bottle of shiraz disgrace but nothing can be done.
I understand you defending him though, supporting the most corrupt, cheating side in world football. Not that I know much about Greek football, nor do I care, but you guys are the biggest bitches around.

Biggest bitches around??? So now this turns into a Greek thing does it??? Yep, Greeces fault that Ireland missed every opportunity in the world to win and Greeces fault that the referee is blind Get the fark out of here you donkey??? The only bitches on here are the ones complaining about one incident of a game that ran for over 90 minutes M.ALAK

[sparrow]

shiraz me, blatant cheating nothing else. Colossus stop giving the benefit of the doubt to Henry. It's over. France are in, Ireland out, Platini the tosspot is happy. Henry is a bottle of shiraz disgrace but nothing can be done.
I understand you defending him though, supporting the most corrupt, cheating side in world football. Not that I know much about Greek football, nor do I care, but you guys are the biggest bitches around.

Biggest bitches around??? So now this turns into a Greek thing does it??? Yep, Greeces fault that Ireland missed every opportunity in the world to win and Greeces fault that the referee is blind Get the shiraz out of here you donkey??? The only bitches on here are the ones complaining about one incident of a game that ran for over 90 minutes M.ALAK

Were you one of the ones bitching and moaning for months about a poor little club on the bottom beating you and costing you the title few years back. What did your side do, took them to court and stole 3 points which one you the title. Help me out Greek supporters.
I'm just stating that if it had happened to your side you wouldn't just accept. You would show some animosity.
Aaarh I've missed the banter. Loosen up tosser

[Nice One Cyril]

Listen im not really pushing the whole cheating issue. To me, there is no cheating in Football, you do what you have to to get your team across the line. There are referees who control the rights and wrongs of players so for me this whole cheating thing isnt even an option.

Fair enough and I don't disagree with you. Players get away with the same and worse, week in and week out. Doesn't mean I have to applaud it though. I would have willingly cut Maradona's balls off with a blunt knife and shoved 'em down his throat in 1986.

However, since the players are now professionals at deceiving the officials (who have a nigh on impossible task given the speed of the modern game) would you now support the use of whatever technology is available to allow the officials to reach the correct decision? Would you also support a lengthy ban for any players found guilty (by tribunal, subsequent to a match) of said deliberate deception?

[Ernie Cooksey]

Listen im not really pushing the whole cheating issue. To me, there is no cheating in Football, you do what you have to to get your team across the line. There are referees who control the rights and wrongs of players so for me this whole cheating thing isnt even an option.

Fair enough and I don't disagree with you. Players get away with the same and worse, week in and week out. Doesn't mean I have to applaud it though. I would have willingly cut Maradona's balls off with a blunt knife and shoved 'em down his throat in 1986.

However, since the players are now professionals at deceiving the officials (who have a nigh on impossible task given the speed of the modern game) would you now support the use of whatever technology is available to allow the officials to reach the correct decision? Would you also support a lengthy ban for any players found guilty (by tribunal, subsequent to a match) of said deliberate deception?

here, here, cyril. well said.
Crap on Colossus... "there's no cheating in football, you do what you have to do....". Never heard a bigger pile of shit in my life and it's people like you the game could well do without.
Go on now, sit down for an hour and type shit splattered with loads of ridiculous smilies to fuel your own self gratification as per ususal.
Interpret misjustices and cheating any way you like, say it was accidental, deliberate, fair, unfair, whatever. But like it or lump it, the majority of football fans don't want to see it. Which is the main reason the people you are calling sooks are complaining. It's time the technology was used.

And I just watched the replay again on the news... ball to hand? ...wuzzit fuck.

[Judge Judy]

lol @ collolsus

[Litmanen]

Initially i thought " what a scumbag cheat".

Then i realised i probably would have done the same thing. The linesman who was in clear view is at fault, the phrase " it's only illegal if you get caught" seems to ring true here.

if there was a challenge system or, a goal review system then this could have been stopped. Until then there's nothing anyone can do.

[ruud]

i wonder why it is only collosus who thinks henry handling the ball is ok?

must be a greek thing (bait)

[COLOSSUS]

shiraz me, blatant cheating nothing else. Colossus stop giving the benefit of the doubt to Henry. It's over. France are in, Ireland out, Platini the tosspot is happy. Henry is a bottle of shiraz disgrace but nothing can be done.
I understand you defending him though, supporting the most corrupt, cheating side in world football. Not that I know much about Greek football, nor do I care, but you guys are the biggest bitches around.

Biggest bitches around??? So now this turns into a Greek thing does it??? Yep, Greeces fault that Ireland missed every opportunity in the world to win and Greeces fault that the referee is blind Get the shiraz out of here you donkey??? The only bitches on here are the ones complaining about one incident of a game that ran for over 90 minutes M.ALAK

Were you one of the ones bitching and moaning for months about a poor little club on the bottom beating you and costing you the title few years back. What did your side do, took them to court and stole 3 points which one you the title. Help me out Greek supporters.
I'm just stating that if it had happened to your side you wouldn't just accept. You would show some animosity.
Aaarh I've missed the banter. Loosen up tosser

Find me where i bitched about it smart ass It was the opposition supporters who were bitching about it If a player isnt allowed to put the guernsey on for a team because of ineligibility, then the club complaining has every right to and it went to court and guess who won Jack sparrow??? Thats right, the team complaining did and rightly so And anyways i dont see how something OFF the park has anything to do with an ON FIELD incident??? I also never said that the Irish supporters shouldnt be happy, i wouldnt be happy either but calling him a cheat and harping on that as being the reason why Ireland arent in the World Cup is very wrong and narrow minded, thats what im saying

[fowlerisgod]

he will always be called a cheat from now on just like maradonna is by the majority but both will still be legends of the game regardless. It was cheating though no doubt. Maradonna will always be a hero in Scotland

[COLOSSUS]

Listen im not really pushing the whole cheating issue. To me, there is no cheating in Football, you do what you have to to get your team across the line. There are referees who control the rights and wrongs of players so for me this whole cheating thing isnt even an option.

Fair enough and I don't disagree with you. Players get away with the same and worse, week in and week out. Doesn't mean I have to applaud it though. I would have willingly cut Maradona's balls off with a blunt knife and shoved 'em down his throat in 1986.

However, since the players are now professionals at deceiving the officials (who have a nigh on impossible task given the speed of the modern game) would you now support the use of whatever technology is available to allow the officials to reach the correct decision? Would you also support a lengthy ban for any players found guilty (by tribunal, subsequent to a match) of said deliberate deception?

I never said you have to applaud it and i also said that id be pissed as well, but i was only saying that harping on one incident considering theres 100s that happen through the course of a game of 90+ minutes is ridiculous when that wasnt the only incident in that game.

Would i support video technology??? Absofarkinglutely i would. I was always a little sceptical as to how they could implement it without stop starting the game but with the 4th official on the sidelines and the 2way headpiece they all wear these days, there is no reason why that technology couldnt be introduced when that 4th official has quick access to tv replays. On top of that, these replays wouldnt affect the time when you take into account that on controversial decisions, players usually remonstrate with the referee and kills a few minutes without you realising it anyways so YES, IM ALL FOR VIDEO TECHNOLOGY

[fowlerisgod]

Listen im not really pushing the whole cheating issue. To me, there is no cheating in Football, you do what you have to to get your team across the line. There are referees who control the rights and wrongs of players so for me this whole cheating thing isnt even an option.

Fair enough and I don't disagree with you. Players get away with the same and worse, week in and week out. Doesn't mean I have to applaud it though. I would have willingly cut Maradona's balls off with a blunt knife and shoved 'em down his throat in 1986.

However, since the players are now professionals at deceiving the officials (who have a nigh on impossible task given the speed of the modern game) would you now support the use of whatever technology is available to allow the officials to reach the correct decision? Would you also support a lengthy ban for any players found guilty (by tribunal, subsequent to a match) of said deliberate deception?

I never said you have to applaud it and i also said that id be pissed as well, but i was only saying that harping on one incident considering theres 100s that happen through the course of a game of 90+ minutes is ridiculous when that wasnt the only incident in that game.

Would i support video technology??? Absofarkinglutely i would. I was always a little sceptical as to how they could implement it without stop starting the game but with the 4th official on the sidelines and the 2way headpiece they all wear these days, there is no reason why that technology couldnt be introduced when that 4th official has quick access to tv replays. On top of that, these replays wouldnt affect the time when you take into account that on controversial decisions, players usually remonstrate with the referee and kills a few minutes without you realising it anyways so YES, IM ALL FOR VIDEO TECHNOLOGY

dont forget about all the time lost waiting for a player rolling around on the ground fro an eyelash injury and then waiting for the trainer/stretcher/coffin to come on the ground etc

[COLOSSUS]

Listen im not really pushing the whole cheating issue. To me, there is no cheating in Football, you do what you have to to get your team across the line. There are referees who control the rights and wrongs of players so for me this whole cheating thing isnt even an option.

Fair enough and I don't disagree with you. Players get away with the same and worse, week in and week out. Doesn't mean I have to applaud it though. I would have willingly cut Maradona's balls off with a blunt knife and shoved 'em down his throat in 1986.

However, since the players are now professionals at deceiving the officials (who have a nigh on impossible task given the speed of the modern game) would you now support the use of whatever technology is available to allow the officials to reach the correct decision? Would you also support a lengthy ban for any players found guilty (by tribunal, subsequent to a match) of said deliberate deception?

here, here, cyril. well said.
Crap on Colossus... "there's no cheating in football, you do what you have to do....". Never heard a bigger pile of shit in my life and it's people like you the game could well do without.
Go on now, sit down for an hour and type shit splattered with loads of ridiculous smilies to fuel your own self gratification as per ususal.
Interpret misjustices and cheating any way you like, say it was accidental, deliberate, fair, unfair, whatever. But like it or lump it, the majority of football fans don't want to see it. Which is the main reason the people you are calling sooks are complaining. It's time the technology was used.

And I just watched the replay again on the news... ball to hand? ...wuzzit fuck.

What makes you think id waste an hour typing to some idiot like yourself??? Sorry to dissapoint you but you aint special anough .................

[COLOSSUS]

Would i support video technology??? Absofarkinglutely i would. I was always a little sceptical as to how they could implement it without stop starting the game but with the 4th official on the sidelines and the 2way headpiece they all wear these days, there is no reason why that technology couldnt be introduced when that 4th official has quick access to tv replays. On top of that, these replays wouldnt affect the time when you take into account that on controversial decisions, players usually remonstrate with the referee and kills a few minutes without you realising it anyways so YES, IM ALL FOR VIDEO TECHNOLOGY

dont forget about all the time lost waiting for a player rolling around on the ground fro an eyelash injury and then waiting for the trainer/stretcher/coffin to come on the ground etc

Ah yes i almost forgot, thanks for reminding me

[P.A.O. 13]

Was it a hand ball?...Yes
Did the ref see it?....No
Sicerely bad luck Ireland.

If an appeal is allowed then it sets a dangerous prescedent ie. an un-noticed foul throw leads to a goal or an earlier off side leads to a goal or a free kick that was incorrectly given leads to a goal.

Like it or not, this is part of the emotion and drama of football. This is the game we love.

[COLOSSUS]

i wonder why it is only collosus who thinks henry handling the ball is ok?

must be a greek thing (bait)

Im the only one you know you mean??? Why the "Greek" thing again??? So i guess your some weed growing, pot smoking Dutchman right??? Thats a Dutch thing isnt it???

[COLOSSUS]

Was it a hand ball?...Yes
Did the ref see it?....No
Sicerely bad luck Ireland.

If an appeal is allowed then it sets a dangerous prescedent ie. an un-noticed foul throw leads to a goal or an earlier off side leads to a goal or a free kick that was incorrectly given leads to a goal.

Like it or not, this is part of the emotion and drama of football. This is the game we love.

Finally, someone with some logic!!! Gee whiz, and i was starting to think that Football was only played by Robots, thank goodness there is people who still play the REAL Football game Version 1 (ORIGINAL)

[COLOSSUS]

i wonder why it is only collosus who thinks henry handling the ball is ok?

must be a greek thing (bait)

Im the only one you know you mean??? Why the "Greek" thing again??? So i guess your some weed growing, pot smoking Dutchman right??? Thats a Dutch thing isnt it???

You can make that 2 people now ruudi

[Judge Judy]

colossus, you have no proof of anything you say mate. talking malakies. (bait)

[Il Duce]

What makes you think id waste an hour typing to some idiot like yourself??? Sorry to dissapoint you but you aint special anough .................

You must value my opinions more

[COLOSSUS]

What makes you think id waste an hour typing to some idiot like yourself??? Sorry to dissapoint you but you aint special anough .................

You must value my opinions more

Doesnt say much for him then does it???

[COLOSSUS]

colossus, you have no proof of anything you say mate. talking malakies. (bait)

Vale kati katharo na tsimbiso re arxidia

[Il Duce]

Doesnt say much for him then does it???

[Facts and Stats]

I think the Irish have edited this page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =326715091

[COLOSSUS]

I think the Irish have edited this page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =326715091

Thats funny. Go and read this link and see what it starts with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Henry

[ruud]

colossus, you have no proof of anything you say mate. talking malakies. (bait)

[Facts and Stats]

I think the Irish have edited this page?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =326715091

Thats funny. Go and read this link and see what it starts with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Henry

Yeah I saw that. I guess the 'real' page did have the new version, but they pulled it pretty quick.