Spurs v LFC

[vertu1]

i thought this was funny enough...
*Rooney was onside when the cross came in, however when he struck the header he appeared to be goal side of the defender. Off the post, with no touch from the keeper puts him in an offside position. Technically. But very difficult for the assistant to see

but then you follow it with this gem.....
If rooney was in an offside position when he made contact with the ball, then hit it in off the post - its offside.


nearly lost my lunch....

[tickets4cheese]

^ you should perhaps be asking yourself that question.....

When a penalty taker blasts in a rebound off the post (without the keeper touching it), will the ref allow the goal to stand???????

If rooney was in an offside position (ie goal side of the last defender) when he made contact with the ball, then hit it in off the post - its offside.

haha - ur a re-tard, the rule for a penalty isn't because the taker would be offside it's because the ball is out of play until the penalty is taken, the taker can't touch the ball again once he's kicked it into play until another player on the field has touched it. just like a free kick, kick off, corner, throw in etc you can't kick the ball to yourself.

thanks mate, you've just made my day. funny stuff.

[Nice One Cyril]

I'm just wondering if The Kop is really Steve Gregan??

[rooboy1986]

I'm just wondering if The Kop is really Steve Gregan??

Nice One Cyril


...oh no i think i've just broken the Internet!!!

[Statto11]

Man U played pretty poorly against a team that is almost certainly to be relegated at home. With a questionable offside goal *.


*Rooney was onside when the cross came in, however when he struck the header he appeared to be goal side of the defender. Off the post, with no touch from the keeper puts him in an offside position. Technically. But very difficult for the assistant to see.

OMG that is one of the stupidest comments i have ever read about the off side rule. Ask a ref to explain the rule to you properly....or a ten year old, either one would be able to correct you.

[SpursOnTheRise]

ahhh yes, life is grand. nothing better than giving it to the scousers who thought they had won before the game even kicked off.

[Judge Judy]

ahhh yes, life is grand. nothing better than giving it to the scousers who thought they had won before the game even kicked off.

what liverpool supporters have you been talking to?

[totsreds08]

i didn't actually think we were going to get a win here tbh

[BTAC]

i didn't actually think we were going to get a win here tbh

[# 9]

Spurs are a top 6 team.
Not many teams will get 3pts at the lane this season.

Dunno where all this expert commentary is coming from this morning.

Man U played pretty poorly against a team that is almost certainly to be relegated at home. With a questionable offside goal *.

Chelsea needed Drogba brilliance in the last minute to get past Hull, another side that may battle this year to stay alive.

Arsenal, well hats off to them, all the gooners jump back on the bandwagon.

How you can draw conclusions after the first round.......beyond belief.


*Rooney was onside when the cross came in, however when he struck the header he appeared to be goal side of the defender. Off the post, with no touch from the keeper puts him in an offside position. Technically. But very difficult for the assistant to see.

i see your bandwagon is nowhere to be seen

[Facts and Stats]

LFC starting like they did last season vs Borough.

WTF???

[Judge Judy]

rd 2**

[Facts and Stats]

At least we won that one....we lost away to Boro much later on.

[Judge Judy]

At least we won that one....we lost away to Boro much later on.

i know that, but this time we got the result we deserved. we played like fucking garbage against boro in that game.

[Facts and Stats]

My only concern about yesterday...Yossi not starting! Gerrard, Torres etc will play better we know that, but I worry Rafa won't use Yossi as much as he should. You don't win/lose the league on the first day, so no need for anyone to panic.

[Judge Judy]

yeah, think our best side at the moment will be with gerrard playing deeper

reina
johnson carragher ayala insua
kuyt mascherano gerrard reira
yossi
torres

[totsreds08]

yeah, think our best side at the moment will be with gerrard playing deeper

reina
johnson carragher ayala insua
kuyt mascherano gerrard reira
yossi
torres

id obviously chuck aquilani in there somewhere

[Judge Judy]

it's obviously with our current available players

[BrickTop]

Kuyt, Lucas, Insua and Babel had shockers...i think yossi should be starting where babel did, pop babel/aqualiani just behind torres and put gerrard back in the middle, we need someone to cover the hole Xabs left. I said last night before the game, i think liverpool will be somewhere in the top 5, spurs, man city, arsenal, chelsea and man u will all be around the mark.

I had a multi on Tottenham to win this one, would have collected over 1.7k if bolton drew.

I have to say, Tottenham looked very impressive, Assu-Ekotto (sp) what a goal, Keane looked very impressive as did Corluka. At the start of the game i was wondering why Spurs bought Bassong, let alone started him, but maybe he was just shite because he played for Newcastle.

[pannafc]

i dont think you no the rule kop , how could rooney be offside if he was the last person to touch the ball , not saying he did but you cant be offside for passing the ball to your self .

[totsreds08]

where was riera?

[pires7]

lol losing to spurs before round 10

[The Kop]

There's been much talk for precious little certainty.
The only conclusion that can be drawn is you're all re-incarnated jesters from the middle ages...

Its black and white in the laws of the game:
A player is deemed to be offside, if, by where, he is nearer to his opponents' goal than the second last defender.

The cross is one play. The next phase begins when the header on the post is the other.
Hart #1 opponent, where is number #2?......On the other side of Rooney.
So therefore, how can it not be offside?

An argument contrary to the above is an argument against the laws of the game.



Finally, on an unrelated manner. I'm such a poor angler, but it turns out after all these years I've been using the wrong bait....

[pires7]

So if you get a through ball, are 20m clear of the last defender, slide it past the keeper and it hits the post and rebounds back to you you are offside, don't think so :? It's not much different to dribbling the ball past someone, technically you couldn't touch it again after going past the player under your interpretation.

[vertu1]

you also have to be ahead of the where the ball is passed from

maybe Rooney was getting ahead of himself ??

[The Kop]

So if you get a through ball, are 20m clear of the last defender, slide it past the keeper and it hits the post and rebounds back to you you are offside, don't think so :? It's not much different to dribbling the ball past someone, technically you couldn't touch it again after going past the player under your interpretation.

A true anomaly of the laws of the game.

Much like how the laws state that a goal cannot be scored directly from a re-entry after the ball is dead.
The ball is dead once it leaves the field of play. Throw-in, corner and goal kick are the only istances when the ball is dead.

Yet if someone bends in a corner and it touches no-one on the way through to passing the goal line, it stands.
Yet if a poor sod defender throws it back to his keeper and it goes under his foot (Henkleman), it stands.

Double Dutch.




throwing out another line, see how we go this time...

[vertu1]

there is no anomaly in the offside rule ...
A player is in an offside position if:
• he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the
second-last opponent
therefore Rooney was not offside at any time

a corner can be directly scored from
a throw in can't , it must touch another player , this makes sense as it does not allow a goal to be scored using the hands which is in keeping with the spirit of the game


"Yet if someone bends in a corner and it touches no-one on the way through to passing the goal line, it stands.
Yet if a poor sod defender throws it back to his keeper and it goes under his foot (Henkleman), it stands."
no it doesn't , it must be touched by another player

law 15 .... A goal cannot be scored directly from a throw-in


what rulebook are you reading??

[The Kop]

Enkleman own goal...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7D15uYXOI

We agree the goals cant be scored from a re-entry when the ball is dead.
This includes throw-ins and goal kicks, but excludes corner kicks?..... :? ....What makes a corner no different to the other two.






lol, still the people get fired up.......gigdy.

[vertu1]

free kicks are also dead ball goals but are only allowed if you have earned a direct free kick

a corner is equal to a direct free kick , probably because you have "earned" it by making the defending team play the ball out over their end line .... go ahead and score directly if you can

a goal kick = indirect free kick , other team put it out by attacking , so you haven't "earned" anything... just bring it back in and another player must touch it

throw in , cant score using hands


thats the best i can come up with other than giving Graham Poll a call to find out ...

[BTAC]

Kuyt, Lucas, Insua and Babel had shockers...i think yossi should be starting where babel did, pop babel/aqualiani just behind torres and put gerrard back in the middle, we need someone to cover the hole Xabs left. I said last night before the game, i think liverpool will be somewhere in the top 5, spurs, man city, arsenal, chelsea and man u will all be around the mark.

I had a multi on Tottenham to win this one, would have collected over 1.7k if bolton drew.

I have to say, Tottenham looked very impressive, Assu-Ekotto (sp) what a goal, Keane looked very impressive as did Corluka. At the start of the game i was wondering why Spurs bought Bassong, let alone started him, but maybe he was just shite because he played for Newcastle.

I actually thought Lucas was one of the better performers for Liverpool.
(Thats not saying much considering how badly the team performed, but I certainly wouldn't single him out as having a shocker)