Al Italia going Down.

[Motley]

The reason why non Italians like seeing the Italians lose is that their gamesmenship (antics) are all about winning any way they can. They dont cheat, I wouldnt say the rig things nor do they throw in the towell if they are down but what they do is enjoy cheap unwarranted victories where quite frankly a team of that talent should not carry on like that when they scrape in with penalty shoot outs and the like.

When you try to find something good in Italian victories, their fans tip you over the edge and you think, shiraz the cabernet and enjoy it so much when they lose.

When Ellas won the euro I had this Italian fella come up to me at work before I even walked through the door and say "do you realise that Italy was the only team not to lose a game in this competition"

Well done , I guess the azurri acheived their goal. What goal was that? Shiraz Cabernet to not get thru the first round? Congrats Egypt and Gino I hope you are on this forum you cabernet.

Baggio is about the only Itie on here to give any credit to other countries, the rest of you are like Gino.

Take note if the confed cup was a final between Spain and Italy (Craig Foster will destroy you) it will be like watching a 90 minute plus arm wrestle if it was Spain Brazil then it will be beautiful football and a great advertisement for the game.

s

[Reggina10Cozza]

no its because you are closet racists. You use the protection of your computer screens to vent your racist prejudice. In this case and especially on this forum it is directed at Italians; why? because the Italians have great success, and unlike Brazil or Germany who would respect, you all still view Italians as beneath you. And any Italian success makes your feel demeaned because its a race you feel superior too. You are disgusting, seriously people think racism and prejudice is better now in this country, however by means of online forums we see true colours. I am a proud Australian and my heart is with Australia, however if Italy play Australia again, I will support Italy because supporting Australia over Italy for me would be siding with typical racist mentalities. The saddest thing is members of this highly racist Australian community have little remorse and guilt for their attititudes, attitudes which are present among genocidal perpetrators in our world. You have no care that your culture based superiorority rants sound similar to mentalities of perpetrators in war torn countries who have wiped out complete segments of there country because of ignorant superiority based beliefs born on jelousy.

[God is an Englishman]

The saddest thing is members of this highly racist Australian community have little remorse and guilt for their attititudes

would agree with you there, but it's certainly not limited to italians. Us English get a lot of shit as do most people who refuse to conform to the aussie stereotype and refuse to run around shouting "aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi" like some demented sheep farmer.

[Translator]

and I thought it was only the Italians that believe conspiracy theories whenever a ref makes a bad call. Looks like it's a world wide habit.

Amazing how many people still complain about the Neill incident but no one complains about the French falling over thin air to get a penalty in the final.

People respect Germany? No one remembers Klinsmann theatrics in the final of 90? German's play entertaining football?

Italians are ruthless with winning and will do anything to get over the line? What more so than the South Americans?

Dirty tackles, Hungary v Brazil in 54 and the battle of Berne? Korea in 02?

Italy are definitely woeful at football though, the 4 world cups they won were obviously all stolen and the fact that they lost more finals that some "power house" nations have even made just proves how useless they are.

Unfortunately have to admit there has to be some truths in Reggina's post. What else would drive people to post crap about matters they have no idea about.

Better still when they try and claim the Italian's are up themselves over it. French, Dutch, German, english and many other's beat their chest just as much if not more.

Unlike some ***cough, english, cough*** , Italians admit when they're not on the top of the footballing world and try and take correction matters, they always have. From banning foreigners in the late 60's to breaking up how football is played presently to help clubs compete in Europe. It's one of the main reasons why they've been successful.

[Translator]

The saddest thing is members of this highly racist Australian community have little remorse and guilt for their attititudes

would agree with you there, but it's certainly not limited to italians. Us English get a lot of cabernet as do most people who refuse to conform to the aussie stereotype and refuse to run around shouting "aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi" like some demented sheep farmer.

not like the english are any better, after all Australians learnt from the best when its come to racism

Is there actually a race on the planet that the english don't dislike?

[God is an Englishman]

Is there actually a race on the planet that the english don't dislike?

depends on how you define "race"! Personally the only nationalities I actually dislike are the french, germans and the argies. The rest are just irrelevant on any scale.

[Motley]

Racists?

Let me make 1 thing perfectly clear I hate everyone not just Italians.

[Translator]

Is there actually a race on the planet that the english don't dislike?

depends on how you define "race"! Personally the only nationalities I actually dislike are the french, germans and the argies. The rest are just irrelevant on any scale.

of course they're irrelevant, can stand to be inferior so we'll just keep on ignoring.

What is it again that the english are meant to be good at? I keep forgetting it's been so long since they actually did anything.

[God is an Englishman]

of course they're irrelevant, can stand to be inferior so we'll just keep on ignoring.

What is it again that the english are meant to be good at? I keep forgetting it's been so long since they actually did anything.

Irrelevance, I have no reason to hate those other countries really. On my hatred scale, they are irrelevant.

What are the English so good at? Well let's look at sport to start with. 4th in last olympics medal count, ranked 6th in the world at football, runners up in the last rugby wc, winners of the one before, a rich history of boxing world champions.

Economics: One of the world powers in finance, one of the financial capitals of the world.

Army: One of the best (probably 2nd behind israel) trained armed forces in the world.

Discoveries: most places in the world found by the English.

Inventions: Most of worlds decent inventions were by the Brits (have to give the scots some credit there)

Empire: Greatest empire ever seen in the world.


And what has your country achieved?

[Translator]

What are the english so good at? Well let's look at sport to start with. 4th in last olympics medal count, ranked 6th in the world at football, runners up in the last rugby wc, winners of the one before, a rich history of boxing world champions.

england at the olympics? never seen it. Great Britain finished fourth last time round, using football rankings, you barely own your own league these days. Rugby world cups, still inferior to South Africa & Australia even though it's a mugs game on the world stage with only a handful of nations interested. Only marginally better than a Yank claiming Baseball. Boxing I'll grant after all it's a sport for meat heads with no other job prospect so it's tailored made for the english

Economics: One of the world powers in finance, one of the financial capitals of the world.

my favourite, yep those economic marvels of the UK really come out of the GFC unscathed. Hope you sold your house before you moved out here

Army: One of the best (probably 2nd behind israel) trained armed forces in the world.

Is this another best footballing nation prior to 1950 claim? What have you done of late to warrant a claim, invade Iraq? Yep doing a great job of it. If it wasn't for the septic tanks bailing you out in WW2 london would be volkswagons only, not to mention how you great army leaders slaughtered 1000's of Australians at Gallipoli and the like

Discoveries: most places in the world found by the English.

What did you find? Australia? The natives found it 10'000s of years before you not to mention the Dutch, Portuguese etc. If you didn't have so many criminals amongst you Cook would have kept sailing by like everyone else before him

New Zealand, Polynesians etc etc.

Inventions: Most of worlds decent inventions were by the Brits (have to give the scots some credit there)

no bias there at all. Most of the world was civilised while the english were still rubbing sticks and wearing furs. If it wasn't for the Romans you'd still be grunted amongst yourselves

Empire: Greatest empire ever seen in the world.

Rome defined the meaning of the word empire, they civilised those around them unlike the english virus that didn't have the courage to face those around them but sailed off looking for nations to conquer that hadn't seen gunpowder. Great to see your so proud of it.

And what has your country achieved?

Accepted multiculturalism, so I've got many to claim, after all we're all embracing but considering we have so many Greeks here I'll just rest with Prince Phillip, the guy that gives it to Queen Elizabeth II doggy style!!!

[God is an Englishman]

What are the english so good at? Well let's look at sport to start with. 4th in last olympics medal count, ranked 6th in the world at football, runners up in the last rugby wc, winners of the one before, a rich history of boxing world champions.

england at the olympics? never seen it. Great Britain finished fourth last time round, using football rankings, you barely own your own league these days. Rugby world cups, still inferior to South Africa & Australia even though it's a mugs game on the world stage with only a handful of nations interested. Only marginally better than a Yank claiming Baseball. Boxing I'll grant after all it's a sport for meat heads with no other job prospect so it's tailored made for the english

Economics: One of the world powers in finance, one of the financial capitals of the world.

my favourite, yep those economic marvels of the UK really come out of the GFC unscathed. Hope you sold your house before you moved out here

Army: One of the best (probably 2nd behind israel) trained armed forces in the world.

Is this another best footballing nation prior to 1950 claim? What have you done of late to warrant a claim, invade Iraq? Yep doing a great job of it. If it wasn't for the septic tanks bailing you out in WW2 london would be volkswagons only, not to mention how you great army leaders slaughtered 1000's of Australians at Gallipoli and the like

Discoveries: most places in the world found by the English.

What did you find? Australia? The natives found it 10'000s of years before you not to mention the Dutch, Portuguese etc. If you didn't have so many criminals amongst you Cook would have kept sailing by like everyone else before him

New Zealand, Polynesians etc etc.

Inventions: Most of worlds decent inventions were by the Brits (have to give the scots some credit there)

no bias there at all. Most of the world was civilised while the english were still rubbing sticks and wearing furs. If it wasn't for the Romans you'd still be grunted amongst yourselves

Empire: Greatest empire ever seen in the world.

Rome defined the meaning of the word empire, they civilised those around them unlike the english virus that didn't have the courage to face those around them but sailed off looking for nations to conquer that hadn't seen gunpowder. Great to see your so proud of it.

And what has your country achieved?

Accepted multiculturalism, so I've got many to claim, after all we're all embracing but considering we have so many Greeks here I'll just rest with Prince Phillip, the guy that gives it to Queen Elizabeth II doggy style!!!

Sport: well yes, we are GB at the olympics but rugby, seem to be forgetting the 1995, 2003 and 2007 world cup when we beat australia in a real competetive match. You haven't beaten us since 1991.

Economics: all countries have struggled with the GFC. No I still have my house and it's value has not even dropped.

Army: Still the best (well 2nd), that's why so many aussie special forces and officers are trained by the English. As for gallippoli, haha! I love the aussie take on this one, it's our fault you couldn't set your watch for the right time. haha

Inventions: Look at the screen right now, who invented it? Get on your phone and call someone, who invented it? Get sick, take some pennicillin, who invented it?

Empire: STILL the largest ever seen.

Multiculturalism: Look at some of the other threads were people on here call australia an inherently racist country.

Language: What's the most spoken language in the world?

[Madridista612]

Spanish...

[Translator]

Sport: well yes, we are GB at the olympics but rugby, seem to be forgetting the 1995, 2003 and 2007 world cup when we beat australia in a real competetive match. You haven't beaten us since 1991.

Economics: all countries have struggled with the GFC. No I still have my house and it's value has not even dropped.

Army: Still the best (well 2nd), that's why so many aussie special forces and officers are trained by the English. As for gallippoli, haha! I love the aussie take on this one, it's our fault you couldn't set your watch for the right time. haha

Inventions: Look at the screen right now, who invented it? Get on your phone and call someone, who invented it? Get sick, take some pennicillin, who invented it?

Empire: STILL the largest ever seen.

Multiculturalism: Look at some of the other threads were people on here call australia an inherently racist country.

Language: What's the most spoken language in the world?

Sport, still clinging to Rugby hey

Economics, UK one of the worse out of the GFC, good to see you house hasn't dropped in value, couldn't have been worth much to start with then hey, was it a cardboard box and some old newspapers

Army, Ok a few Aussies go train in the UK is enough to warrant 2nd best

Inventions, Phone, you mean Bell the Scot? like that isn't controversial, Penicillin, Fleming another Scot! the english can't even spell penicillin filthy pr!ck didn't invent it, he stumbled over it, who leaves moulded bread lying around anyway! Although @ claiming Scots to help your argument about england!!!!

Empire, ok now you've gone from greatest to largest enjoy that, look forward to playing some decent test cricket against a england 11 made up of sub continent names

Multiculturalism, as far as I'm aware no country does it better albeit not 100% success rate.

Language, mandarin or are you trying to claim the Chinese now like you did with the Scots

Point is the same if I believed in reincarnation and there's 195 countries in the world england would be about about 150 on my list just above war torn and disease infested

[Madridista612]

Sport: well yes, we are GB at the olympics but rugby, seem to be forgetting the 1995, 2003 and 2007 world cup when we beat australia in a real competetive match. You haven't beaten us since 1991.

Economics: all countries have struggled with the GFC. No I still have my house and it's value has not even dropped.

Army: Still the best (well 2nd), that's why so many aussie special forces and officers are trained by the English. As for gallippoli, haha! I love the aussie take on this one, it's our fault you couldn't set your watch for the right time. haha

Inventions: Look at the screen right now, who invented it? Get on your phone and call someone, who invented it? Get sick, take some pennicillin, who invented it?

Empire: STILL the largest ever seen.

Multiculturalism: Look at some of the other threads were people on here call australia an inherently racist country.

Language: What's the most spoken language in the world?

Sport, still clinging to Rugby hey

Economics, UK one of the worse out of the GFC, good to see you house hasn't dropped in value, couldn't have been worth much to start with then hey, was it a cardboard box and some old newspapers

Army, Ok a few Aussies go train in the UK is enough to warrant 2nd best

Inventions, Phone, you mean Bell the Scot? like that isn't controversial, Penicillin, Fleming another Scot! the english can't even spell penicillin filthy pr!ck didn't invent it, he stumbled over it, who leaves moulded bread lying around anyway! Although @ claiming Scots to help your argument about england!!!!

Empire, ok now you've gone from greatest to largest enjoy that, look forward to playing some decent test cricket against a england 11 made up of sub continent names

Multiculturalism, as far as I'm aware no country does it better albeit not 100% success rate.

Language, mandarin or are you trying to claim the Chinese now like you did with the Scots

Point is the same if I believed in reincarnation and there's 195 countries in the world england would be about about 150 on my list just above war torn and disease infested

Sounds a bit like Italy's Rugby team...Craig Gower and like another aussie, an argentine....

[delfino_1936]

mandarin or cantonese can't remember which one it was

[God is an Englishman]

mandarin or cantonese can't remember which one it was

incorrect on either, as there are so many different languages within china. Making English the most spoken language in the world.

[God is an Englishman]

Sport, still clinging to Rugby hey

Economics, UK one of the worse out of the GFC, good to see you house hasn't dropped in value, couldn't have been worth much to start with then hey, was it a cardboard box and some old newspapers

Army, Ok a few Aussies go train in the UK is enough to warrant 2nd best

Inventions, Phone, you mean Bell the Scot? like that isn't controversial, Penicillin, Fleming another Scot! the english can't even spell penicillin filthy pr!ck didn't invent it, he stumbled over it, who leaves moulded bread lying around anyway! Although @ claiming Scots to help your argument about england!!!!

Empire, ok now you've gone from greatest to largest enjoy that, look forward to playing some decent test cricket against a england 11 made up of sub continent names

Multiculturalism, as far as I'm aware no country does it better albeit not 100% success rate.

Language, mandarin or are you trying to claim the Chinese now like you did with the Scots

Point is the same if I believed in reincarnation and there's 195 countries in the world england would be about about 150 on my list just above war torn and disease infested

Well you were the one who said you always beat us in rugby. I merely gave you the facts.

Economics: SO because we were affected by the GFC we're suddenly not strong. What does the letter G stand for? The pound has been devalued a lot but we still get $2 for a pound and stronger than the us$ and the euro etc.. As for my house, it's worth the same as it was before because a) it's in a decent area b) i'm not selling it, it's value is what I put on it and what I am prepared to sell it for. I'm still getting a lot more in rent than I pay on the mortgage.

Inventions: I did say a lot were scottish, but then scotland is part of GB, and ever since the Union and King James the countries have been linked. As for penicillin - invented by Fleming, the latter "invention" modified it and made it more useable but that's like saying Sony invented the tv because they came up with the plasma. Even if you take the latter (which is better for me) because it was a 10 man team (9 English and 1 Aussie) in England.

Multiculturism: haha if that's the best australia can manage then I'll let you have it and leave you with this But seeing as you are going on about England cricket having 11 asian names, wouldn't that suggest multi culturism is alive and well in England :?

Emire: In terms of an Empire anything apart from size is surely subjective. So the only neutral way would be to call the largest the greatest.

Language: As far as I am aware, more speak English than Chinese. Mainly because of the amount of people that have it as a 2nd language but also because of the mainly different languages within China

[delfino_1936]

mandarin or cantonese can't remember which one it was

incorrect on either, as there are so many different languages within china. Making English the most spoken language in the world.

that's an interesting point! i always thought English was, but i always used to get corrected by people saying the Chinese languages were number 1

[Translator]

Sport, I don't recall claiming anything of the sort, just going by world cup wins. Like I keep saying nothing sport on a world wide basis.

Economics, is about sustainable growth, obviously f**ked that one up. Banking hub of Europe, yep that panned out. unemployment, balance of trade, debt yep all going really well.

Empire, percentage of the known world conqueror Roman > Britain

Multiculturalism I used only for my Prince Phillip argument the fact that I still live here with my family is all I need to justify myself. If I thought it was better elsewhere I'd move. All my family qualify for an EU passport none of us have one, not worth the paper it's written on to us.

Probably know about 10 different english families living in Adelaide at the moment, not only are they happy to have moved over but they are also bringing over more of their families, parents, in-laws etc. Of the ones I know that moved to england, all temporary and looking forward to coming back. Many already have.

@ delfino taking anything Hawkesy says as legitimate facts

[barbarez01]

Italia 0 - 3 Brazil

[Litmanen]

The reason why non Italians like seeing the Italians lose is that their gamesmenship (antics) are all about winning any way they can. They dont cheat, I wouldnt say the rig things nor do they throw in the towell if they are down but what they do is enjoy cheap unwarranted victories where quite frankly a team of that talent should not carry on like that when they scrape in with penalty shoot outs and the like.

When you try to find something good in Italian victories, their fans tip you over the edge and you think, shiraz the cabernet and enjoy it so much when they lose.

When Ellas won the euro I had this Italian fella come up to me at work before I even walked through the door and say "do you realise that Italy was the only team not to lose a game in this competition"

Well done , I guess the azurri acheived their goal. What goal was that? Shiraz Cabernet to not get thru the first round? Congrats Egypt and Gino I hope you are on this forum you cabernet.

Baggio is about the only Itie on here to give any credit to other countries, the rest of you are like Gino.

Take note if the confed cup was a final between Spain and Italy (Craig Foster will destroy you) it will be like watching a 90 minute plus arm wrestle if it was Spain Brazil then it will be beautiful football and a great advertisement for the game.

s

Completely agree.

This is why i enjoyed Egypt beating Italy.

They scored 1 goal. Then they started defending with 11 behind the ball, time wasting and diving. This is how Italy play, and this is why everyone hates them. I enjoyed nothing more than watching 11 grown men whinging like 8 year olds everytime an Egyptian went down. It's funny when the shoe is on the other foot!

I think diving is cheating, so yes they do cheat ( as do just about every team), in fact they have infected the rest of the world with it. I think they should be ashamed of themselves.

I would just like to say while this is an emotional post, that it is directed at the Italian team, and no one on this forum, so don't take it as a personal attack, but in my eyes,
the more Italy win the way they do, the more the world game suffers, Diving alone is my biggest hatred of the game, and it seems to me that they are biggest offenders of it.

I am happy to be proven wrong on this point. As much as i appreciate the extreme passion Italian people have for the game, and even more so how much Italians have built the game in Australia, i still think the on field antics are disgusting, and FIFA should do something about Diving and time wasting, it is really time for them to step up and do something.

[LFTWNG11]

Emire: In terms of an Empire anything apart from size is surely subjective. So the only neutral way would be to call the largest the greatest.

Anything apart from size?!?! Well how about picking on countries that had not even invented the wheel yet, let alone gun powder and war tactics. Compare that to what Rome controlled... not subjective at all. Lets say, put a $$$ value on the land in say the peasant countries you took over, to the $$$ value of all the land in Europe that Rome took over. Absolute no contest. Rome ruled England (Not Scotland though, they had the balls to look after themselves)... England never got close to doing the same to any major European city, let alone Rome.

What is even more funny about the English, for all their navel supremcy... were still beaten to Inca gold by the wetbacks. Too busy stealing spices off the Indians.

Like you username, delusions of granduer.... delusions of granduer.

[delfino_1936]

http://listverse.com/2008/06/26/top-10-

sorry Hawkesy but i'm right here

that's as of 2008 as well, so pretty updated

[Martin Tyler]

I would just like to say while this is an emotional post, that it is directed at the Italian team, and no one on this forum, so don't take it as a personal attack, but in my eyes,
the more Italy win the way they do, the more the world game suffers, Diving alone is my biggest hatred of the game, and it seems to me that they are biggest offenders of it.

I am happy to be proven wrong on this point. As much as i appreciate the extreme passion Italian people have for the game, and even more so how much Italians have built the game in Australia, i still think the on field antics are disgusting, and FIFA should do something about Diving and time wasting, it is really time for them to step up and do something.

If you're happy to be proven wrong, I'll do it. How anyone can seriously say Italians, or any European soccer nation, are bigger divers than South Americans is beyond me. How many years did we put up with Australia playing South American sides to try and qualify for the World Cup, and see them constantly roll around whenever tackled?

I was also not happy in 2006 when Grosso or whoever it was went down after Neill's challenge, but it was not a theatrical dive, there was contact, and any country including Australia would have tried it in the same situation. It's the refs choice to give the penalty, not the player's and if you say an Aussie wouldn't have gone down like that, you're dreaming.

If you didn't see it, look on You Tube and check out the world's worst dive ever by Rivaldo in the Brazil vs Turkey semi final in the 2002 World Cup. Looked like he got shot in the head, and the Turkish player got a red for it.

Worst divers argument over.

[Litmanen]

I would just like to say while this is an emotional post, that it is directed at the Italian team, and no one on this forum, so don't take it as a personal attack, but in my eyes,
the more Italy win the way they do, the more the world game suffers, Diving alone is my biggest hatred of the game, and it seems to me that they are biggest offenders of it.

I am happy to be proven wrong on this point. As much as i appreciate the extreme passion Italian people have for the game, and even more so how much Italians have built the game in Australia, i still think the on field antics are disgusting, and FIFA should do something about Diving and time wasting, it is really time for them to step up and do something.

If you're happy to be proven wrong, I'll do it. How anyone can seriously say Italians, or any European soccer nation, are bigger divers than South Americans is beyond me. How many years did we put up with Australia playing South American sides to try and qualify for the World Cup, and see them constantly roll around whenever tackled?

I was also not happy in 2006 when Grosso or whoever it was went down after Neill's challenge, but it was not a theatrical dive, there was contact, and any country including Australia would have tried it in the same situation. It's the refs choice to give the penalty, not the player's and if you say an Aussie wouldn't have gone down like that, you're dreaming.

If you didn't see it, look on You Tube and check out the world's worst dive ever by Rivaldo in the Brazil vs Turkey semi final in the 2002 World Cup. Looked like he got shot in the head, and the Turkish player got a red for it.

Worst divers argument over.

In my opinion the incident between Neill and Grosso while hearbreaking was Neill's fault. Grosso played for it, but there was contact, so while i still think any honorable player would have kept running i can see why he went down, at the end of the day, it's the mindset that the whole team plays by, it's not a once off Klinsmann, it's the whole fkn team..

It's situations where players like Gilardino, and Totti roll around and complain at one end, and then Materazzi is tackling studs up, pulling shirts and elbowing that i'm talking about.

Personally i don't think you can compare the positive football teams like Brazil play compared to the negative sneaky game that Italy play. I guess it's more than just diving. From time wasting, dirty fouls, complaining, the Italians do more when the ball is out than when it is in.

The diving tag is probably not what i was trying to say ( well it is what i said... retrospectively i was thinking something else..), it's the ugly/negative/dirty game they play ( which is a real disappointment for me, because one the ball the Italians are excellent to watch, i won't be writing them off for the WC by a long shot just yet).

Looking at the world game right now, i'd say the Dutch and Italians are the worst when it comes to diving, but again the Dutch with the exception of Van Bommel are no way near as dirty.

[Shearer FFSA]

Im sorry is'nt this topic meant to me about Egypt beating Italy 1-0.
How bout we forget all the racist slander and get back on the topic.

Good win for Egypt
Italy didn't take their chances
I have no doubt that Italy will use this as a learning experiance and bounce back in time for South Africa.

[God is an Englishman]

Compare that to what Rome controlled... not subjective at all. Lets say, put a $$$ value on the land

Put a dollar value on it. OK!!

Well gaul, germany and England at the time, worth fuck all. Now let's take the gold etc.. that was in usa, australia and the money in India. That was an EASY win for the British Empire wasn't it.

[God is an Englishman]

http://listverse.com/2008/06/26/top-10-

sorry Hawkesy but i'm right here

that's as of 2008 as well, so pretty updated

according to my friends chinese wife, 2 people who claim to both speak mandarin cannot understand each other. The city variety and the country are completely different languages and not just different dialects.

Even if she's wrong - well it's still the 2nd most popular. I'll take that, of all the western languages we're the largest.

[Translator]

Im sorry is'nt this topic meant to me about Egypt beating Italy 1-0.
How bout we forget all the racist slander and get back on the topic.

Good win for Egypt
Italy didn't take their chances
I have no doubt that Italy will use this as a learning experiance and bounce back in time for South Africa.

not sure how you can rate Italy are chance, personally I'm expecting an effort from them no better than 86.

Would much rather pay out Hawkesy than talk about Egypt and the confed cup

Compare that to what Rome controlled... not subjective at all. Lets say, put a $$$ value on the land

Put a dollar value on it. OK!!

Well Gaul, Germany and england at the time, worth shiraz all. Now let's take the gold etc.. that was in usa, Australia and the money in India. That was an EASY win for the british empire wasn't it.

Thought you brits were meant to be strong in economics, gold was worth FA to the spandiards as the over supply made it worthless only caused inflation problems for them. Given the beauty of our country I'll grant Australian land values are worth more than all of england, but that was only after federation & post WW2 when mainland Europeans arrived.

[delfino_1936]

time wasting, dirty fouls, complaining

that's apart of our game and to single out the Italians of just doing it, is very very naive if you ask me