SATURDAY LEAGUE RESULTS - 16/05/09

[swannsong]

very concerning results for Iggies. But they have a young side that is still taking time to gel. The club has a record numbers of players and at this rate our first team might find themselves playing our 3 side in the same division

Another disturbing aspect is our reserves keep winning but our A's can't buy a win. This has been the case for the last 10 years strong reserves but a first team that can't get the needed results

Probably due to the fact that you have so many players competing for a reserves spot, compared to other Saturday clubs.

[God is an Englishman]

very concerning results for Iggies. But they have a young side that is still taking time to gel. The club has a record numbers of players and at this rate our first team might find themselves playing our 3 side in the same division

Another disturbing aspect is our reserves keep winning but our A's can't buy a win. This has been the case for the last 10 years strong reserves but a first team that can't get the needed results

Probably due to the fact that you have so many players competing for a reserves spot, compared to other Saturday clubs.

I have been very suprised by the Iggies reserves this season, having set a youth policy in place (something I have been a proponent of for some time) I was expecting some time for this to gel. I guess the drop in division would have helped but still pleasently suprised.

The A's wouldn't have been helped by a number of senior players also deciding that the time was right to step down and allow the kids to come through.

[Jack Mehorf]

very concerning results for Iggies. But they have a young side that is still taking time to gel. The club has a record numbers of players and at this rate our first team might find themselves playing our 3 side in the same division

Another disturbing aspect is our reserves keep winning but our A's can't buy a win. This has been the case for the last 10 years strong reserves but a first team that can't get the needed results

Probably due to the fact that you have so many players competing for a reserves spot, compared to other Saturday clubs.[/quote]

At Adelaide Villa we are forced to rotate 20 players in the reserves at the moment just to keep everyone happy.
We replaced our Satrurday C team with a Sunday over 35's and are looking at having a second team next year due to the current numbers.
Gave up on the Sunday amateur league team which was a total waste of time.

[hatzipp]

Anyone know the rest of the 1st div results for Saturday?

[De Voyeur]

A team mate of mine went to the SPOC v BOSA game. He said that SPOC were absolutely honking.

He did not want to write a match report bagging them though- he said something about being above that.

[hatzipp]

A team mate of mine went to the SPOC v BOSA game. He said that SPOC were absolutely honking.

He did not want to write a match report bagging them though- he said something about being above that.

what does honking mean? shite?

[De Voyeur]

A team mate of mine went to the SPOC v BOSA game. He said that SPOC were absolutely honking.

He did not want to write a match report bagging them though- he said something about being above that.

what does honking mean? shite?

Yeah- it means that they played like a bunch of plonkers.

[Monkey Boy]

Your a dick East 17!!! Arent you retired yet???

[Jack Mehorf]

Anyone know how Sturt went against Uni?

[De Voyeur]

Your a grenache East 17!!! Arent you retired yet???

I want to play one more year with you before I hang up the boots mate.

[Pi55 Take]

Anyone know how Sturt went against Uni?

Sturt beat Gleeson 6-1 I believe.

[bunsen honeydew]

Hahndorf 3 McLaren District 2 Firsts
Hahndorf 4 McLaren District 1 Ressies

A good, young bunch of lads from McLaren way, fought well all day and nearly pinched a point. Both of their goals in the Firsts were crackers from outside the box into top corners. Hahndorf wasted many chances but happy with the results.

[Jack Mehorf]

Anyone know how Sturt went against Uni?

Sturt beat Gleeson 6-1 I believe.

schitt...thought they played uni.....ok.......for gone conclusion anyway.......Gleeson way off the mark in this league

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

Villa 1-1 Navarino

Why do you never post your reserve side score?

I find it strange that you and some others on here only post the senior side score like the reserves are not your reserves but another team altogether. You can easily spot which clubs respect their B/C team(s) as much as the rest of the club.

You have made many stupid comments in your time Zeus, however the above generalisation has to be the most absurd that I have heard from you.

[To Mati]

Villa 1-1 Navarino

Why do you never post your reserve side score?

I find it strange that you and some others on here only post the senior side score like the reserves are not your reserves but another team altogether. You can easily spot which clubs respect their B/C team(s) as much as the rest of the club.

You have made many stupid comments in your time Zeus, however the above generalisation has to be the most absurd that I have heard from you.

Likewise

Firstly, perhaps you should put yourself in other peoples shoes and look at it from a different angle. Do you not think it is weird that your reserve side results don't get posted when your A's do? Clubs usually just post all their teams results or none at all. And pay closer attention also, my comments are not entirely directed at Navarino, I quoted "that you and some others"

But since you came in to bat, Why don't you explain why only half your teams results get posted every week. I'm confident that 99% of club individuals, players or committee members are aware of the reserve scores by the end of the day. Just curious why, I'm sure that you, of all people will have an explanation why the majority can do so and you guys can't.

The impression I get is that your reserves side are seen as just a 'nothing' from a few certain individuals in your club. DC deserves more respect than that I think. As do all reserve sides across the board.

[LUFC]

Shame that the BOSA linesman didn't want to play fairly but the ref was fantastic today!!!

Awww come one old mate. You were being so gracious up to this point. Talk to your striker - he knew he was a good few feet offside. Calling someone a cheat is pretty childlike.

[PHE 7]

Shame that the BOSA linesman didn't want to play fairly but the ref was fantastic today!!!

Awww come one old mate. You were being so gracious up to this point. Talk to your striker - he knew he was a good few feet offside. Calling someone a cheat is pretty childlike.

i would have to agree with monkey boy he is a cheat!

[Right Back]

Iggies prob had the best away support we have seen at Collins, its gonna be a fight at Glenunga to see who has the best travelling fans!!!

[Chelsea4thewin]

Iggies prob had the best away support we have seen at Collins, its gonna be a fight at Glenunga to see who has the best travelling fans!!!

wouldnt the result be more important lol

[God is an Englishman]

Iggies prob had the best away support we have seen at Collins, its gonna be a fight at Glenunga to see who has the best travelling fans!!!

that was a poor turnout from Iggies, we didn't have that many at all.

Is that your usual B's ref? If so, i pity any team playing there, even your own players were laughing at home bad he was. Comment from one of your strikers "that's another penalty you should have got". I think it was 4 at the last count, 3 of them backed up by the A's ref.

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

Why do you never post your reserve side score?

I find it strange that you and some others on here only post the senior side score like the reserves are not your reserves but another team altogether. You can easily spot which clubs respect their B/C team(s) as much as the rest of the club.

Likewise

Firstly, perhaps you should put yourself in other peoples shoes and look at it from a different angle. Do you not think it is weird that your reserve side results don't get posted when your A's do? Clubs usually just post all their teams results or none at all. And pay closer attention also, my comments are not entirely directed at Navarino, I quoted "that you and some others"

But since you came in to bat, Why don't you explain why only half your teams results get posted every week. I'm confident that 99% of club individuals, players or committee members are aware of the reserve scores by the end of the day. Just curious why, I'm sure that you, of all people will have an explanation why the majority can do so and you guys can't.

The impression I get is that your reserves side are seen as just a 'nothing' from a few certain individuals in your club. DC deserves more respect than that I think. As do all reserve sides across the board.

Zeus you can continue to draw your own conclusions from your observations from the outside, all you want. However, there is no question in my mind that the Reserves side at Navarino has never been treated as second class citizens. Further DC is well respected by everyone at our club and his contribution week in week out is fantastic and well acknowledged by all.

The fact that you used the words "and some others" is just conveniant for your argument. After 5 years of negative remarks towards the Navarino Football Club here and there you would of thought you would be over any problems you had with the club or individuals involved in it.

I find it fascinating you find it fit to comment about us and not just worry about your own club. It is really getting boring.

Finally does our club, as a whole, not respect our reserves? Or is it just some individuals who dont give it the respect it deserves? You seemed to have changed your tune between your two posts? I am a little confused on what your trying to say.

[Kitchimo]

Iggies prob had the best away support we have seen at Collins, its gonna be a fight at Glenunga to see who has the best travelling fans!!!

that was a poor turnout from Iggies, we didn't have that many at all.

Is that your usual B's ref? If so, i pity any team playing there, even your own players were laughing at home bad he was. Comment from one of your strikers "that's another penalty you should have got". I think it was 4 at the last count, 3 of them backed up by the A's ref.

I'm sick of you using that As ref as justification. He is a junk ref and has screwed us in the As and the Cs when he has been used this year. He also does not know his LOTG and struggles to keep up with the match.

[God is an Englishman]

Iggies prob had the best away support we have seen at Collins, its gonna be a fight at Glenunga to see who has the best travelling fans!!!

that was a poor turnout from Iggies, we didn't have that many at all.

Is that your usual B's ref? If so, i pity any team playing there, even your own players were laughing at home bad he was. Comment from one of your strikers "that's another penalty you should have got". I think it was 4 at the last count, 3 of them backed up by the A's ref.

I'm sick of you using that As ref as justification. He is a junk ref and has screwed us in the As and the Cs when he has been used this year. He also does not know his LOTG and struggles to keep up with the match.

OK. I'll use the 2 other qualified refs who also saw the incidents.

That said, the A's ref happened to be standing in that corner watching (so he didn't have to keep up with play) and I'm pretty sure he can tell a foul when he sees one.

[To Mati]

Zeus you can continue to draw your own conclusions from your observations from the outside, all you want. However, there is no question in my mind that the Reserves side at Navarino has never been treated as second class citizens. Further DC is well respected by everyone at our club and his contribution week in week out is fantastic and well acknowledged by all.

The fact that you used the words "and some others" is just conveniant for your argument. After 5 years of negative remarks towards the Navarino Football Club here and there you would of thought you would be over any problems you had with the club or individuals involved in it.

I find it fascinating you find it fit to comment about us and not just worry about your own club. It is really getting boring.

Finally does our club, as a whole, not respect our reserves? Or is it just some individuals who dont give it the respect it deserves? You seemed to have changed your tune between your two posts? I am a little confused on what your trying to say.

Yeah my conclusions. "and some others" - definitely means just your club.

And 5 years of negative remarks?? I am amazed you've never said anything to me face to face about that. 5 years is such a long time. Must be eating you inside.

I have nothing against your club, our game was played in good spirits, except for the choice of beer.

Forget I said anything in this topic then, which I assume is the road you want to take by not answering my intial question.

[theassistant]

The problem with being a linesman in this league is that the refs don't want to allow them to actually do the job properly.
On Saturday the linsemen in both the B's and the A's were given a clear instruction to raise the flag for any player who was in an offside position, with the refs then wanting to determine whether they are effecting the play or not. So basically, he flags regardless of whether the player with the ball is offside or not. It is a ridiculous way to do things and just puts more pressure on a ref who often is behind the play. It also annoys the crowd (on both sides) as they know when a guy is offside or not. I know this because i had a go at the SPOC B's linesman for raising his flag and he told me that was the instruction from the middle.
In the B's game the guy who scored was a metre offside but the goal stood, and sorry to say Monkey Boy but the first team goal was also offside, but was missed by the ref because he was trying to determine where the run had come from even though he was 20m behind the line of defence.
I think the refs who use this system just make it hard for themselves, most of the linesman who have been around a while know how to adjudicate the now not so new rule, so give them a chance to do it!
And Jets no. 7, pull your head in since you weren't at the game, and just worry about what goes on at your end of town.

SPOC 1 - 3 BOSA
Saint Peters were well beaten by BOSA today. I think that we have seen the 2 best teams in the league play off today. Standard of play was quite high on a nice St Peters home pitch. BOSA set up with a very attacking line up which caused us some problems early on.

I do think that the scoreline ended up flattering BOSA as they were certainly not a 2 goal better side. SPOC certainly had their chaces in the game - especially one lovely following move that ended u hitting the post when it was 2-1. Mind you we had one goal mircaculously saved off the line!!!

Great to have a hard game in the league though and BOSA will be very tough for all to take points off this year.

Shame that the BOSA linesman didn't want to play fairly but the ref was fantastic today!!!

[To Mati]

Linesmen - no matter how hard some of them try and do get the decisions right, 99% of the time they are wrong in the eyes of the attacking teams supporters when the flag is raised.

I have seen some very fair linesmen over the years only to be blasted by opposition supporters every time they raise the flag. These supporters are usually 30m away with no clear view of the backline, but they can see things clearly. Even the strikers who have been flagged most of the time, don't argue much and simply get on with it.

It has become a way of the amateur league life to always assume the linesman has got it wrong. Yes the referee doesn't have to agree with the linesman but there are many times now and more often as the years progress where the referee will succumb to pressure from the crowd. Sad but true.

[Monkey Boy]

The problem with being a linesman in this league is that the refs don't want to allow them to actually do the job properly.
On Saturday the linsemen in both the B's and the A's were given a clear instruction to raise the flag for any player who was in an offside position, with the refs then wanting to determine whether they are effecting the play or not. So basically, he flags regardless of whether the player with the ball is offside or not. It is a ridiculous way to do things and just puts more pressure on a ref who often is behind the play. It also annoys the crowd (on both sides) as they know when a guy is offside or not. I know this because i had a go at the SPOC B's linesman for raising his flag and he told me that was the instruction from the middle.
In the B's game the guy who scored was a metre offside but the goal stood, and sorry to say Monkey Boy but the first team goal was also offside, but was missed by the ref because he was trying to determine where the run had come from even though he was 20m behind the line of defence.
I think the refs who use this system just make it hard for themselves, most of the linesman who have been around a while know how to adjudicate the now not so new rule, so give them a chance to do it!
And Jets no. 7, pull your head in since you weren't at the game, and just worry about what goes on at your end of town.

Your comments are understandable and you are 100% correct that they make it hard for themselves. It would not be an easy job for the refs in the Amatuer league as they have zero help from anyone. They arent allowed to be assisted by the club linesman with fouls, etc and in the end the ref has all decisions (including offsides) on his head. I believe that he got the decision correct as Ollie had came from around the defender to score the goal, then once the goal was scored the linesman put his flag up. Did you notice that the players didnt dispute the decision, they only were saying that the linesman had his flag up? Anyway I thought that was really his only poor contribution to the game and we lost... and deservidly so.....

[LUFC]

Fair point MB.

The only other thing I think the ref got wrong was that he should have given you a yellow for the 10 second tanty you had at me. haha

[Monkey Boy]

Ah so your the big guy at the back?? Ive done my knee over that stupid tackle with the left foot!!!
It was quite funny though coz the ref said whats the matter and I said I just needed to fire up my team and he said oh ok then!!! Great reffing in my book!!!

[Right Back]

Yep, he's our B's ref for home games, we have another qualified ref but he plays for the A's atm.

Remember that we are a new club and the ref has had NO experience prior to this season and we've been told by the committee to be patient with him.

I regards to the result, more than half the B's team are under 18 and never played club before so it'll take time to adjust, but we got Simba this week so there's always a shot.

And for the record, the A's ref was bloody s**thouse with that line call that gave Iggies that free kick for the second goal.