EDJSA = Stupidity

[BeNatural]

I find this very strange and blackmail how an association can stop clubs from progressing to the next level if they wish for an age group, unless they field a team in their competition too.

(b) All Clubs in the E & D.J.S.A. fielding teams in other Associations must field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A. otherwise nominations will be refused for all teams in all age group in that Club.

Shame that is, especially if a team wishes to take the next level and move out of the Association.

[Stanley Accrington]

I find this very strange and blackmail how an association can stop clubs from progressing to the next level if they wish for an age group, unless they field a team in their competition too.

(b) All Clubs in the E & D.J.S.A. fielding teams in other Associations must field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A. otherwise nominations will be refused for all teams in all age group in that Club.

Shame that is, especially if a team wishes to take the next level and move out of the Association.

Don't you just love posts with a "football politics" agenda ?

[Jeda]

I find this very strange and blackmail how an association can stop clubs from progressing to the next level if they wish for an age group, unless they field a team in their competition too.

(b) All Clubs in the E & D.J.S.A. fielding teams in other Associations must field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A. otherwise nominations will be refused for all teams in all age group in that Club.

Shame that is, especially if a team wishes to take the next level and move out of the Association.

Don't you just love posts with a "football politics" agenda ?

yes the whole ffsa & e&djsa is a political time bomb espedcially whit rules like the above

[rossie]

If this is true then that's a disgrace. How can you stop a club for wanting to enter one or two teams into another competition?

Surely what's best for the kids comes first.

If a team wants to enter the jpl why stop them.

Politics likes this needs to stop from EDJSA.

[swannsong]

If this is true then that's a disgrace. How can you stop a club for wanting to enter one or two teams into another competition?

Surely what's best for the kids comes first.

If a team wants to enter the jpl why stop them.

Politics likes this needs to stop from EDJSA.

And of course FFSA has no prohibitive rules !

[rossie]

And what prohibitive rules does FFSA have?

I see gawler play in e&d and then there's all the teams in the amatuers which have mens teams in FFSA

[swannsong]

And what prohibitive rules does FFSA have?

I see gawler play in e&d and then there's all the teams in the amatuers which have mens teams in FFSA

Didn't the FFSA prohibit Southern Knights playing in a pre-season Charity cup ?
What EDJSA teams were invited to compete in the Manchester United Cup ?

Nike and the FFSA invite one under 15 team from FFSA affiliated clubs to compete in the South Australian leg.

I imagine EDJSA are just protecting their future.

[BeNatural]

A key word there swanny. Affiliated.

That's why they couldn't participate.

It's not like all the teams have to be affiliated, just one.

Look at gawler, play in both comp.

Look at plympton and fulham play in jpl and saasl.

So why can't another e&d club field at least one team in jpl if they want without the club being penalised?

[swannsong]

A key word there swanny. Affiliated.

That's why they couldn't participate.

It's not like all the teams have to be affiliated, just one.

Look at gawler, play in both comp.

Look at plympton and fulham play in jpl and saasl.

So why can't another e&d club field at least one team in jpl if they want without the club being penalised?

If a club has enough players for two teams then they can..simple.
Why does that constitute blackmail ?
Affiliated or not, it was a Junior competition that EDJSA teams could not enter because they were not aligned with FFSA.
I'm not making a judgement call, just stating a fact.
Basically, for the sake of football in SA I'm sick of all the mud-slinging, it serves no purpose other than to divide the football community.
People starting threads pitting non FFSA v FFSA just fuel the fire even more !
( I know it's not Junior relate but what about the Southern Knights issue ? )

[fossil]

whats the true criterial to be entered into FFSA comp?

I know E&D club that looked at going into FFSA but needed to have seniors as well before being able to go into JPL.

if this is the case how can smaller successful junior clubs in E&D get a chance?

so who's protecting who's yearly influx of players ready too go the next level

[Željko Jurin]

whats the true criterial to be entered into FFSA comp?

I know E&D club that looked at going into FFSA but needed to have seniors as well before being able to go into JPL.

if this is the case how can smaller successful junior clubs in E&D get a chance?

so who's protecting who's yearly influx of players ready too go the next level

So where do the Seniors for Sturt, Fulham, Beverly and Plympton play if this is the case ??

[teddles]

whats the true criterial to be entered into FFSA comp?

I know E&D club that looked at going into FFSA but needed to have seniors as well before being able to go into JPL.

if this is the case how can smaller successful junior clubs in E&D get a chance?

so who's protecting who's yearly influx of players ready too go the next level

So where do the Seniors for Sturt, Fulham, Beverly and Plympton play if this is the case ??

Shhhh, stop bringing facts into the argument

[BeNatural]

Thanks for proving my point ZJ

[swannsong]

Thanks for proving my point ZJ

Apart from generating animosity between the 2 parties, what is your point ?

[John Walker AFPP]

I am old fashioned and think FFA and FFSA SHOULD oversee and rule every competition. However this should be done with development in mind and not dollars etc. I welcome further meetings between the 2 bodies to come to an agreement suitable to both but also one that benefits football development at all levels especially junior and refereeing.

My comments only for the future of our great game

JW

[Black Hawk]

Establishment no idea.

[Hollygirl]

Carter no idea. Ruining it for everybody. Apparently cant even hit a baseball

How does E&D not allowing clubs to field teams in JPL if they don't already have an E&D team become Carters fault....and what does hitting a baseball have to do with it???

[Black Hawk]

Hollygirl we should all be in this together

[rossie]

John, how can you make such a ccomment when your club Sturt is playing in the JPL with no restrictions in terms of having a senior team fielded in the fed.

[lefty]

I find this very strange and blackmail how an association can stop clubs from progressing to the next level if they wish for an age group, unless they field a team in their competition too.

(b) All Clubs in the E & D.J.S.A. fielding teams in other Associations must field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A. otherwise nominations will be refused for all teams in all age group in that Club.

Shame that is, especially if a team wishes to take the next level and move out of the Association.

What age group & division in E&D is this team youre talking about moving to the "next level"

[Southampton #7]

I find this very strange and blackmail how an association can stop clubs from progressing to the next level if they wish for an age group, unless they field a team in their competition too.

(b) All Clubs in the E & D.J.S.A. fielding teams in other Associations must field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A. otherwise nominations will be refused for all teams in all age group in that Club.

Shame that is, especially if a team wishes to take the next level and move out of the Association.

U/15 and up you can move if i read it correctly.

field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A.

[Southampton #7]

I find this very strange and blackmail how an association can stop clubs from progressing to the next level if they wish for an age group, unless they field a team in their competition too.

(b) All Clubs in the E & D.J.S.A. fielding teams in other Associations must field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A. otherwise nominations will be refused for all teams in all age group in that Club.

Shame that is, especially if a team wishes to take the next level and move out of the Association.

U/15 and up you can move if i read it correctly.

field equivalent teams up to and including U/14s in the E & D.J.S.A.

[goal!!!]

typical

dont read the rules correctly make a dumb statement ! howmuch is ffsa paying u lol...

im sick of FFSA and EDJSA crap - FFSA have no money they charge like wounded bulls , for what ? parents may get a little better teams to some degree but on the whole everytime EDJSA teams play federation most federation teams get the butts kicked .. huh.. so much for $400 plus fees vs. $65 ...

ffsa agenda is crazy they expect everyone to jump over and have no consitituion they expect all the assetts to move over .. charge all the new clubs mega dollars and fees for what admin ? or execeutive fees for holidays .. until FFSA realize they are destroying soccer and introduce bunk SSG games .. huh EDJSA modified rules are one of the best little games around, all skiils are taught from early age ... FFSA ignore halve the rules until they are 12 or so , fantastic ... another point FFSA seem to a have a nack for runnign their own agenda's even federation teams get ripped , eventually it could proove fatal SA is the only ones to have such a rift , now the EDJSA and amatuer league joined up , they have more money and better services to clubs on offer .. so my opinion is FFSA needs to really think about what damage they will cause to themsleve sin the long run, when the federation clubs realise they are getting taken for a big ride which will hurt them .. both in players and ref;s maybe theyll re think about it

anyway enough said

[BeNatural]

No money?

You obviosuly havent checked out page 18 of the below document?

http://stage.ffsa.com.au/assets/SiteEng ... t_2008.pdf

Not bad for a 4 year old non for profit organisation.

Remember, saasl, edjsa, ffsa etc are non for profit organisations, so they meant to put back into the sport, not keep $1m in the bank!

[theone]

Goal you can not be serious if you think ED teams can beat the FFSA aligned teams. Modbury U15 & Para Hills U15 would beat the ED sides convincingly and the U17 ED sides would not get a look in. The younger groups (U11-U12) would probaly be closer but after 13's the gap widens significantly with the top end FFSA sides. I have been in both camps and coached against some of these teams you talk about and have watched all these age groups play.

They need to talk and can you tell me which EDJSA side charges $65? without any additional costs. At the end of the day the parents decide where there kids can play and will soon leave if they are not getting value for money. The E&D has produced and will keep producing players of quality and eventually somewhere they will meet and work through it all - maybe not in my lifetime but

[James]

typical

dont read the rules correctly make a dumb statement ! howmuch is ffsa paying u lol...

im sick of FFSA and EDJSA crap - FFSA have no money they charge like wounded bulls , for what ? parents may get a little better teams to some degree but on the whole everytime EDJSA teams play federation most federation teams get the butts kicked .. huh.. so much for $400 plus fees vs. $65 ...

ffsa agenda is crazy they expect everyone to jump over and have no consitituion they expect all the assetts to move over .. charge all the new clubs mega dollars and fees for what admin ? or execeutive fees for holidays .. until FFSA realize they are destroying soccer and introduce bunk SSG games .. huh EDJSA modified rules are one of the best little games around, all skiils are taught from early age ... FFSA ignore halve the rules until they are 12 or so , fantastic ... another point FFSA seem to a have a nack for runnign their own agenda's even federation teams get ripped , eventually it could proove fatal SA is the only ones to have such a rift , now the EDJSA and amatuer league joined up , they have more money and better services to clubs on offer .. so my opinion is FFSA needs to really think about what damage they will cause to themsleve sin the long run, when the federation clubs realise they are getting taken for a big ride which will hurt them .. both in players and ref;s maybe theyll re think about it

anyway enough said

need to start spending some of that money on youth development and coaching education as many of the kids being produced at E+D lack the skill necessary to survive above an ametuer setup.

[The Boss]

typical

dont read the rules correctly make a dumb statement ! howmuch is ffsa paying u lol...

im sick of FFSA and EDJSA crap - FFSA have no money they charge like wounded bulls , for what ? parents may get a little better teams to some degree but on the whole everytime EDJSA teams play federation most federation teams get the butts kicked .. huh.. so much for $400 plus fees vs. $65 ...

ffsa agenda is crazy they expect everyone to jump over and have no consitituion they expect all the assetts to move over .. charge all the new clubs mega dollars and fees for what admin ? or execeutive fees for holidays .. until FFSA realize they are destroying soccer and introduce bunk SSG games .. huh EDJSA modified rules are one of the best little games around, all skiils are taught from early age ... FFSA ignore halve the rules until they are 12 or so , fantastic ... another point FFSA seem to a have a nack for runnign their own agenda's even federation teams get ripped , eventually it could proove fatal SA is the only ones to have such a rift , now the EDJSA and amatuer league joined up , they have more money and better services to clubs on offer .. so my opinion is FFSA needs to really think about what damage they will cause to themsleve sin the long run, when the federation clubs realise they are getting taken for a big ride which will hurt them .. both in players and ref;s maybe theyll re think about it

anyway enough said

need to start spending some of that money on youth development and coaching education as many of the kids being produced at E+D lack the skill necessary to survive above an ametuer setup.

WTF?

Pretty broad statement

[GULLY BOYZ]

typical

dont read the rules correctly make a dumb statement ! howmuch is ffsa paying u lol...

im sick of FFSA and EDJSA crap - FFSA have no money they charge like wounded bulls , for what ? parents may get a little better teams to some degree but on the whole everytime EDJSA teams play federation most federation teams get the butts kicked .. huh.. so much for $400 plus fees vs. $65 ...

ffsa agenda is crazy they expect everyone to jump over and have no consitituion they expect all the assetts to move over .. charge all the new clubs mega dollars and fees for what admin ? or execeutive fees for holidays .. until FFSA realize they are destroying soccer and introduce bunk SSG games .. huh EDJSA modified rules are one of the best little games around, all skiils are taught from early age ... FFSA ignore halve the rules until they are 12 or so , fantastic ... another point FFSA seem to a have a nack for runnign their own agenda's even federation teams get ripped , eventually it could proove fatal SA is the only ones to have such a rift , now the EDJSA and amatuer league joined up , they have more money and better services to clubs on offer .. so my opinion is FFSA needs to really think about what damage they will cause to themsleve sin the long run, when the federation clubs realise they are getting taken for a big ride which will hurt them .. both in players and ref;s maybe theyll re think about it

anyway enough said

need to start spending some of that money on youth development and coaching education as many of the kids being produced at E+D lack the skill necessary to survive above an ametuer setup.

WTF?

Pretty broad statement

Mr McDonald !!!! Where do you think MOST of the Federation kids come from ???? Off the street???? Pretty ordinary statement !!

[goal!!!]

mmmmhmh 0 edjsa supply most of the federation players , federation steal or have this aura of come here pay mega bucks for ? look at adelaide city fees for your kid cant tell me they are not proping up seniors

edjsa vs fed .. edjsa win.. thats why most fed teams wont play edjsa teams coz they loose and then have to justify why they are paying for ? admitally fed coaches seem to have better grasp of coaching - but still talent lies in both leagues

edjsa could never move across - fees diference would be the biggest killer alot of kids could no longer afford to play .. wow that would be great for soccer ..

[JED]

mmmmhmh 0 edjsa supply most of the federation players , federation steal or have this aura of come here pay mega bucks for ? look at adelaide city fees for your kid cant tell me they are not proping up seniors

edjsa vs fed .. edjsa win.. thats why most fed teams wont play edjsa teams coz they loose and then have to justify why they are paying for ? admitally fed coaches seem to have better grasp of coaching - but still talent lies in both leagues

edjsa could never move across - fees diference would be the biggest killer alot of kids could no longer afford to play .. wow that would be great for soccer ..

Ha haha, so funny. There's an easy wasy to sort this out - three teams of differing age groups from Adelaide City & ddjsa in a best out of three tournament :-0