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So here you are guys, dont be fooled by Olympiakos supporters saying that only Panathinaikos & AEK fans claim the league to be corrupt - another second team tier has come out and even published it on their official website - here is the story from http://www.goal.com

http://www.goal.com/en/news/117/greece/ ... t-official

ps. I took the liberty of highlighting some key parts.
Aris Attack Greek Football's 'Corrupt Establishment' & Want Officials Sacked
It's another broadside on the state of Greek football.

Thessaloniki club Aris have launched a stinging attack on the state of Greek football, labelling the establishment as “corrupt” and calling for the sacking of three match officials.

In the wake of their 2-1 loss away against Olympiakos, an official statement was released on the Aris website blasting the state of the game in Greece.

It included accusations of corruption and an attack on the monopolisation of the league by defending champions Olympiakos, who look set to win their 12th Greek title in 13 years; they have lost only one match this season and have maintained a perfect home record.

Face Of Corruption

The Piraeus giants extended their lead at the top of the Greek Super League table to 14 points with a home win over Aris on Sunday, the visitors having midfielder Vitolo sent off for two bookable offences.

That was before Olympiakos scored their second goal courtesy of a rather soft penalty awarded by referee Nathaniel Charalabidis, sparking scenes of disbelief amongst the Aris players, who surrounded the official.

Luciano Galletti missed his spot-kick before eventually scoring from what appeared to be an offside position
, though no protests from the players were forthcoming.

In an official statement on the Aris website, the club said the performance of the officials on Saturday was representative of wider problems facing the Greek game.

“[At] the Giorgios Karaiskakis Stadium, with the officiating of Charalabidis, [Christos] Gennaios and [Ioannis] Stamatoglou [linesmen] the mask was dropped and face of the corrupt establishment was more clearly shown,” the statement read.

“The latest act of this comedy called Greek football has come to confirm everything that Aris has been trying to denounce in recent years.”

Specific mention was also made of Charalabidis and Gennaios, pointing to the performance of the former in a league match against Atromitos last year and the latter in the Greek Cup exit at the hands of PAOK this season.

Demand For Change

The statement continued by calling for three key changes, including an end to the promotion of referees to international standards and the “grading” of their performances (a job carried out by the Central Committee of Refereeing – KED) in an attempt to prevent them from losing their posts.

The second call was for the sacking of the three match officials (Charalabidis, Gennaios and Stamatoglou) who presided over the Olympiakos match; third was for KED to dismiss “incompetent and dangerous” officials.

Familiar Story

Historically, Greek football has never been too distant from accusations of corruption and power struggles, with former Hellenic Football Federation (EPO) president Vassilis Gagatsis having resigned from his post in December, amidst accusations of fraud and the illegal funding of football clubs.

A former legal advisor of Olympiakos, Gagatsis' name was the subject of a perpetual Calciopoli-like link with the club that was never proven.

Olympiakos were targeted in the statement by Aris, the Thessaloniki club claiming that a culture had been established in Greece whereby its most successful team “doesn’t believe that there can be failure within a game.”


Conspiracy Theory

Aris also suggested that Olympiakos’ involvement in the “officiating slaughter” was part of a wider plan to assert their power over the league and monopolise their participation in European competitions, with a view to reducing the financial strength of competing clubs.

It doesn’t mark the first time Aris have attacked the Greek football establishment either, club president Lambros Skordas having levelled similar criticism at the ‘Big Three’ of Greek football – AEK Athens, Panathinaikos and Olympiakos - following Gagatsis’ resignation last year.

However, with Sofoklis Pilavios having been elected the new president of the EPO, there does appear to be some hope for the change demanded by the Thessaloniki club.

Their statement concluded, “We expect the new president of the EPO, whom we surround with confidence, to confirm our conclusions.”

A Brief History

In its 71-year history, the Greek league has only ever been won by a team outside of Athens six times: Aris have thrice been champions (1928, '32, '46), PAOK twice ('76, '86) and Larissa once ('88).

In terms of financial strength, the inequality between the Athenian giants and the rest of the domestic scene has worsened with the monopolisation of participation in European competitions in recent years, particularly with the increased financial windfall provided by the UEFA Champions League and television rights.



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IMO olympiakos should be relegated
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Pao Thyra 13 wrote:GAVROI MOUNIA MOUNIA TA PERNETE STA GRAPHIA.
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hellas_08 wrote:IMO olympiakos should be relegated
because this issue is alot alike to juve a few years ago they got relegated to serie B
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molon labe u are spot on, its rigged, i been trying to tell u this but u wont listen
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olympiakos wrote:molon labe u are spot on, its rigged, i been trying to tell u this but u wont listen
blah blah blah
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lol :lol:
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Panathinaikos "wronged" in Iraklis draw - Mantzios
More focus on the officiating in Thessaloniki.

In the wake of his side's scoreless draw against Iraklis, Panathinaikos striker Evangelos Mantzios claimed his side were "wronged" by poor officiating.

The Greece international was part of the team that travelled to Thessaloniki but were unable to keep pace with league leaders Olympiakos, whose lead atop the Greek Super League table now stands at 14 points.

With only eight matches remaining - including a derby clash away against their fierce rivals still to be played - Panathinaikos' title aspirations were dealt a major blow at the Kaftanzoglio Stadium.

Like his manager before him, Mantzios highlighted the decision to rule out his 78th minute strike for offside - replays suggesting he was in fact in an onside position - and the inability of referee Anastasios Kakos to award a penalty during the post-match press conference.

"[We] were wronged," Mantzios said. "The goal was clear, the penalty was also clear.

"I don't know when this will end."

The striker did conceded however that his teammates were not at their best on Sunday, as they failed to keep pace with Olympiakos.

He continued, "We weren't good today and it showed on the pitch.

"We didn't start strongly.

"There is no logical explanation; the matches aren't going our way."
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Referee decisions 'crazy' - Ten Cate
Olympiakos closer to title; 14 point buffer over fiercest rivals.

Panathinaikos manager Henk Ten Cate said he feels like he is in a "bad movie" after again seeing key refereeing decisions go against his side during their scoreless against Iraklis on Sunday.

The Athenians dropped further behind in an increasingly one-sided title race, allowing the lead of fierce rivals Olympiakos to be extended to 14 points with only eight matches remaining following their victory over Aris.

Familiar Story

Despite a docile attacking performance against an Iraklis side who have developed a new-found resilience under manager Makis Katsavakis, two officiating decisions grabbed headlines in Thessaloniki.

The first was the contentious ruling out of Evangelos Mantzios 78th minute goal for offside - with replays suggesting the Greece international had been level with the last defender - before referee Anastasios Kakos failed to spot a hand-ball in the penalty area by Grigoris Papazacharias two minutes later.

In his post-match press conference, Panathinaikos' manager alluded to a continuing pattern in his side's fortunes this season.

"A valid goal was annulled, a hand-ball wasn't seen and sometimes I feel like I'm in a very bad movie," Ten Cate said.

"This isn't the first time and it certainly isn't the last time something like this will happen.

"I had the feeling that [Mantzios' goal] wasn't offside and it was confirmed by people who saw the replay."

Going Mad

On a weekend where Olympiakos' crucial 2-1 home win over Aris included a penalty award for the home side, Ten Cate was asked whether he would comment on the general state of refereeing across the league.

Never one to shy away from criticism of the standard of Greek refereeing, the Dutch manager and his club have been at the centre of controversy this season with their comments about officials.

He continued, "I don't want to and I can't comment on the matches of other teams.

"I only have perceptions on matches involving Panathinaikos and I only comment on those.

"From what I can understand, 11 penalties haven't been awarded to us [this season] which is strange and started with our first match against AEK Athens.

"Up until today we have played 22 matches and 11 cases are rather a lot.

"You could describe as crazy."
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hellas_08 wrote:Panathinaikos "wronged" in Iraklis draw - Mantzios
More focus on the officiating in Thessaloniki.

In the wake of his side's scoreless draw against Iraklis, Panathinaikos striker Evangelos Mantzios claimed his side were "wronged" by poor officiating.

The Greece international was part of the team that travelled to Thessaloniki but were unable to keep pace with league leaders Olympiakos, whose lead atop the Greek Super League table now stands at 14 points.

With only eight matches remaining - including a derby clash away against their fierce rivals still to be played - Panathinaikos' title aspirations were dealt a major blow at the Kaftanzoglio Stadium.

Like his manager before him, Mantzios highlighted the decision to rule out his 78th minute strike for offside - replays suggesting he was in fact in an onside position - and the inability of referee Anastasios Kakos to award a penalty during the post-match press conference.

"[We] were wronged," Mantzios said. "The goal was clear, the penalty was also clear.

"I don't know when this will end."

The striker did conceded however that his teammates were not at their best on Sunday, as they failed to keep pace with Olympiakos.

He continued, "We weren't good today and it showed on the pitch.

"We didn't start strongly.

"There is no logical explanation; the matches aren't going our way."
And here my green gremlins is the reason why you canNOT blame Olympiakos. It took one of your own, to post the truth and show you truth. Your game was against Iraklis, NOT Olympiakos. Greek Football may well have problems in way of useless Officials, but that can hardly be blamed on Olympiakos. You only target us because we win Championship after Championship.

What you need to ask yourself is this: Why did Olympiakos win the title last season after a decision from the courts and not pay off the referees like you say and win it alot earlier??? Have you ever asked yourself that question. Wouldnt we have paid them off alot earlier instead of waiting to go to court??? You blokes are unbelievable. I guess the SANFL is rigged also because Centrals is the only team that seems to be winning Grand final after Grand Final :roll: :roll: :roll:

Tune up your violins you LOSERS :!: :!: :!:
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Players and coaches on losing teams complain about poor officiating all the time. Suck it up.
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eyyy Numnut your uneducated posts about Greek football isnt needed, Go back to psoting about a league because thats the only league you understand.
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Pao Thyra 13 wrote:eyyy Numnut your uneducated posts about Greek football isnt needed, Go back to psoting about a league because thats the only league you understand.
What? Was it not true that players and coaches are constantly complaining about poor refereeing?

Here are a list of leagues I watch and I understand

A League :wink:
La Liga
English Premier League
Serie A
Dutch Eredivisie
Ligue 1
Bundesliga
Championship
Blue Square Premier League

Unfortunately as of yet, I haven't seen coverage of Greek football in english meaning that no, I haven't been able to understand it. I also couldn't understand why they were playing so terribly, but then my friend explained to me that Greek football is ludicrously bad quality, which, because he said in english I understood perfectly. :D
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UEFA Cup....This is the real Olympiako..

Olympiakos 1 St Etienne 3


St Etienne are in the relegation zone in Ligue 1.
Yeh nothing suss happening domestically.... :roll: :roll:
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what a bunch of cabernet you are, poor cousins but certainly not related.

Keep following the leader, kreata. :lol:

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Motley wrote:what a bunch of cabernet you are, poor cousins but certainly not related.

Keep following the leader, kreata. :lol:

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The Kop wrote:UEFA Cup....This is the real Olympiako..

Olympiakos 1 St Etienne 3


St Etienne are in the relegation zone in Ligue 1.
Yeh nothing suss happening domestically.... :roll: :roll:
Thats unfair Kop, and you know it mate. St Etienne qualified for this UEFA tournament based on their 4th position in last seasons Ligue 1 table. Whilst they are currently in the drop zone of their competition, facts are that they qualified TOP of their UEFA group, and have been dominating in Europe at the cost of their French League campaign. They wouldnt be the first nor the last to be in this predicament. Having said all of that, there is no excuse for Olympiakos to be losing like that to a team that has never played at the Karaiskaki.

If your theories of domestic suspicions were true, then why did we qualify from arguably the hardest Champions League group last year when we were tipped by all including yourself to finish bottom of that group and be the whipping boys???

Think before you talk my fellow Nisioti :wink:
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all the poor cousins need to understand that Olympiakos have carried Greek football for years.
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Motley wrote:all the poor cousins need to understand that Olympiakos have carried Greek football for years.
They still do..........
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kolobaras wrote:
Motley wrote:all the poor cousins need to understand that Olympiakos have carried Greek football for years.
They still do..........

An d i wonder who carried Greece in Europe where everything is pretty much fair??
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what a :clown: , talk about conceding the season again, come one of the little teams knock these bunch of scrubbers out of 2nd spot and let them find something new to complain about.

Somehow Olympiakos would bribe this other team so they can beat panathemasekos. Ametuers!
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Olympiakos in Europe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uusTHcaRRbk

Note to those unaware, ALL of these 'foulds' would be whistled domestically in Greece.
I'd be f*cken ashamed if that was my side.
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The Kop wrote:Olympiakos in Europe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uusTHcaRRbk

Note to those unaware, ALL of these 'foulds' would be whistled domestically in Greece.
I'd be f*cken ashamed if that was my side.

HAHA KOP that is a classic bravo on the great find - look at the Olympiakos players - they cant beleive that all those arent called like they are in the greek league. Even their supporters think that the 50-50 were all unjust towards them, probably cos they cant seem to remember a game that hasnt been tipped in their favour in the greek league lol
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yea great find re kop :D
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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We are still on top of the ladder.

Based on the poor cousins opinions of Olympiakos, it says a lot more about how pathetic the rest of the league is.

What you half breads are actually doing is running down our league.

Pretty soon you will be opening up debate on whether Euro 2004 was the real deal or whether a corrupt footballing body was able to buy a Euro.

This is really starting to get personal.

Oh and for the record we are still on top. You dumb fux.

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