Adelaide City U/16 and U/17 R looking For Players

[ZZZZ]

can u please let me know if i need to come and trial or do a get a position in the team if there is not much interest. i been playing in a C team for the last 2 years and before that for the school. Im 17 years old and I think Im readu to step up. I always wanted to play for City but thought maybe wasnt good enough. with the quality of coaching i heard is available then im sure id improve. I also got the CASH no problems. let me know before i email for details of training. cheers

[rabbit]

[johnydep]

The 16/17 age group seems to be a hard one to fill; what with study, girls, cars and all the other distractions in front of a young man learning to take control of his own life. Good luck to all of them in making the correct decisions.
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Why does $'s always have to come into it? Do people go to the BMW dealer and complain about their vehicles costing twice as much as a Holden?

Not all clubs work on volunteers, some pay people. Then theirs the cost of equipment, learning tools, specialised trainers, etc. Also, some clubs have sponsors that cover some cost of player development.

We all have a choice - use it. If one club is too expensive for you, go to another Club. Do our sport a favour - don't defame each other.

Well, that's my 2c worth

[redmum]

The 16/17 age group seems to be a hard one to fill; what with study, girls, cars and all the other distractions in front of a young man learning to take control of his own life. Good luck to all of them in making the correct decisions.
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Why does $'s always have to come into it? Do people go to the BMW dealer and complain about their vehicles costing twice as much as a Holden?

Not all clubs work on volunteers, some pay people. Then theirs the cost of equipment, learning tools, specialised trainers, etc. Also, some clubs have sponsors that cover some cost of player development.

We all have a choice - use it. If one club is too expensive for you, go to another Club. Do our sport a favour - don't defame each other.

Well, that's my 2c worth

I would, if I was getting a Holden from a BMW dealer that was exactly the same as the Holden from the Holden dealer. Fair enough if there are extras added, but when it's Holden v Holden, you expect the same price.
Is it fair for one club to be charging WAY more than another club, without giving reasoning behind it, and for something involved with the club that is supposed to be non-profit?
Why should I have to go to another club, away from friends made and going back on my word of loyalty, just because a club is being unrealistically greedy?

[johnydep]

The 16/17 age group seems to be a hard one to fill; what with study, girls, cars and all the other distractions in front of a young man learning to take control of his own life. Good luck to all of them in making the correct decisions.
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Why does $'s always have to come into it? Do people go to the BMW dealer and complain about their vehicles costing twice as much as a Holden?

Not all clubs work on volunteers, some pay people. Then theirs the cost of equipment, learning tools, specialised trainers, etc. Also, some clubs have sponsors that cover some cost of player development.

We all have a choice - use it. If one club is too expensive for you, go to another Club. Do our sport a favour - don't defame each other.

Well, that's my 2c worth

I would, if I was getting a Holden from a BMW dealer that was exactly the same as the Holden from the Holden dealer. Fair enough if there are extras added, but when it's Holden v Holden, you expect the same price.
Is it fair for one club to be charging WAY more than another club, without giving reasoning behind it, and for something involved with the club that is supposed to be non-profit?
Why should I have to go to another club, away from friends made and going back on my word of loyalty, just because a club is being unrealistically greedy?

I can understand your view if the cost buying a pizza from two different Dominos stores was significantly different. However I see you comparing standard pizza with a gourmet pizza

Seriously, how can you say that their offering the same service with out comparing the ingredients?

Why are St Peters fees higher than Blackfriars? Why pay school fees at all when we can all send our kids to public schools?

As I have mentioned; some clubs have paid staff, some have sponsors with deeper pockets. Each club has a different supplier with different quality stock. Clubs need to purchase First Aid kits, soccer balls, nets, agility poles, etc. Referees want to get paid, electricity bills need to be covered, the list goes on. Some clubs have the power of numbers to influence purchasing decions.
What about the clubs that want to ensue longevity and build for the future; saving money to build a kiosk, or a improve the club rooms, or add a change room, etc. All for the benefit of present and future members - just like our forefathers did.

To survive, clubs need to grow. They need a plan for the future, which means they need a budget.

Maybe not all clubs are as scrupulous as others, but go to their AGM and see their financials, go see where the money is going.

Maybe you should talk to the committee!

[redmum]

The 16/17 age group seems to be a hard one to fill; what with study, girls, cars and all the other distractions in front of a young man learning to take control of his own life. Good luck to all of them in making the correct decisions.
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Why does $'s always have to come into it? Do people go to the BMW dealer and complain about their vehicles costing twice as much as a Holden?

Not all clubs work on volunteers, some pay people. Then theirs the cost of equipment, learning tools, specialised trainers, etc. Also, some clubs have sponsors that cover some cost of player development.

We all have a choice - use it. If one club is too expensive for you, go to another Club. Do our sport a favour - don't defame each other.

Well, that's my 2c worth

I would, if I was getting a Holden from a BMW dealer that was exactly the same as the Holden from the Holden dealer. Fair enough if there are extras added, but when it's Holden v Holden, you expect the same price.
Is it fair for one club to be charging WAY more than another club, without giving reasoning behind it, and for something involved with the club that is supposed to be non-profit?
Why should I have to go to another club, away from friends made and going back on my word of loyalty, just because a club is being unrealistically greedy?

I can understand your view if the cost buying a pizza from two different Dominos stores was significantly different. However I see you comparing standard pizza with a gourmet pizza

Seriously, how can you say that their offering the same service with out comparing the ingredients?

Why are St Peters fees higher than Blackfriars? Why pay school fees at all when we can all send our kids to public schools?

As I have mentioned; some clubs have paid staff, some have sponsors with deeper pockets. Each club has a different supplier with different quality stock. Clubs need to purchase First Aid kits, soccer balls, nets, agility poles, etc. Referees want to get paid, electricity bills need to be covered, the list goes on. Some clubs have the power of numbers to influence purchasing decions.
What about the clubs that want to ensue longevity and build for the future; saving money to build a kiosk, or a improve the club rooms, or add a change room, etc. All for the benefit of present and future members - just like our forefathers did.

To survive, clubs need to grow. They need a plan for the future, which means they need a budget.

Maybe not all clubs are as scrupulous as others, but go to their AGM and see their financials, go see where the money is going.

Maybe you should talk to the committee!

In my case, I am comparing a standard pizza with a standard pizza. And being charged for a gourmet pizza with standard pizza toppings!!
This club would have no more overheads for this programme than any other club - surely electricity, referees etc cost the same no matter which suburb you are in?
I have spoken to the committee, and most of them are as shocked as I was.
I have sent several emails, with the standard reply each time - these are our fees, this is what you get. No compromise, no reason why this particular club are still insisting on charging $100 more than anyone else, FOR THE SAME THING.
Honestly, if they replied and said, our overheads cost more, you are getting extra via....I would not have a problem, but I can only assume I am not getting answers because they don't have any, except for the fact they are being greedy.

[prefly]

.......and none of the money is going towards paying their seniors.

[redmum]

.......and none of the money is going towards paying their seniors.

well, if they'd answer my emails and tell me that...at least I'd KNOW!! :?

[johnydep]

In my case, I am comparing a standard pizza with a standard pizza. And being charged for a gourmet pizza with standard pizza toppings!!
This club would have no more overheads for this programme than any other club - surely electricity, referees etc cost the same no matter which suburb you are in?
I have spoken to the committee, and most of them are as shocked as I was.
I have sent several emails, with the standard reply each time - these are our fees, this is what you get. No compromise, no reason why this particular club are still insisting on charging $100 more than anyone else, FOR THE SAME THING.
Honestly, if they replied and said, our overheads cost more, you are getting extra via....I would not have a problem, but I can only assume I am not getting answers because they don't have any, except for the fact they are being greedy.

"This club would have no more overheads for this programme than any other club" . Is that a fact! Have you included what other clubs add into the mix? - Subsidies, sponsorship, fund raising, membership base, volunteers, etc.

"I have spoken to the committee, and most of them are as shocked as I was".
I presume you are refering to the senior committee. Go back and ask them what their fee is for each child player, also ask them how much they give to the juniors from the bar and kitchen.

" have sent several emails, with the standard reply each time". Meet them in person.

[Željko Jurin]

And just for everyones info, this "pizza" they are talking about is u/8 SSF

The joy's of football in Adelaide !!!!

[Rodney]

Maybe one pizza bar is located in an area that is very competitive with many pizza bars around it and has to be subsidised to a degree by its bigger owners to help them compete and head the pizza bar in a direction that will help it grow and be competitive . So by selling more pizza the goodwill grows and there are other spin offs for the bigger owner in other areas ie potential sponsorship increases , people see what the bigger owner has to offer also that they might not have seen if they didnt go to the pizza bar in the first place and maybe if they are going to be using the pizza bar for many years they just might get involved with the pizza bar to help it run directly or indirectly etc etc - maybe this helps explain the differences in pizza prices here to a degree.
A bit off topic sorry

[Željko Jurin]

Maybe one pizza bar is located in an area that is very competitive with many pizza bars around it and has to be subsidised to a degree by its bigger owners to help them compete and head the pizza bar in a direction that will help it grow and be competitive . So by selling more pizza the goodwill grows and there are other spin offs for the bigger owner in other areas ie potential sponsorship increases , people see what the bigger owner has to offer also that they might not have seen if they didnt go to the pizza bar in the first place and maybe if they are going to be using the pizza bar for many years they just might get involved with the pizza bar to help it run directly or indirectly etc etc - maybe this helps explain the differences in pizza prices here to a degree.
A bit off topic sorry

What happens if one pizza bar has the same fresh toppings (u6-8 is not rocket science, just let the kids "play", teach the basics, and make sure they have fun !!), is 40% cheaper, and has "indoor" dining ???

[Rodney]

You would probably go to the cheaper pizza bar but if that pizza bar are many miles from where you live then you have to make a choice which may not be cost effective in the end.

Just on pizza's I actually could buy cheaper pizza's ie dominos close buy but I actually buy more expensive ones that are also close by, in a small specialised pizza shop because they have much more toppings and taste better. But I can afford the dearer pizza and I also have that option near buy which others may not. Im actually talking about pizzas here but could be thought about in the indirect context we are sort of talking about.

[Rodney]

is 40% cheaper, and has "indoor" dining - oh and could this pizza bar be located at Gepps Cross and how is the great JW going with his making sure his pizza's are the best in SA

and even if its cheaper and has indoor dining - the making of the pizzas can still be stuff up when making them even though you would wonder how they could for something so basic.

[juniors]

Fee for Adelaide City is about $600 the same as meny other clubs.
But This post is not about fees. It is About trying to FIND PLAYERS. We are looking for players to play in the under 16 or 17 team 2009.
All player that would like to try out for the teams can come to the club on Wed or Fri. nights at about 6:00pm we are looking for player from under 14 to under 17 to play in the the two teams.
I hope this helps.
Thanks

[prefly]

If say my son gets into the under 16 at Ad City what will I have to pay for that, "on road cost" you could say including bags, kit, any special levees etc, is it $600? Where is the $875 - $900 that people have stated? If it is $600 then I'll come down and have a look.

[redmum]

You would probably go to the cheaper pizza bar but if that pizza bar are many miles from where you live then you have to make a choice which may not be cost effective in the end.

Just on pizza's I actually could buy cheaper pizza's ie dominos close buy but I actually buy more expensive ones that are also close by, in a small specialised pizza shop because they have much more toppings and taste better. But I can afford the dearer pizza and I also have that option near buy which others may not. Im actually talking about pizzas here but could be thought about in the indirect context we are sort of talking about.

Both pizza bars are quite a distance from where I live. I do have a pizza bar within walking distance of my house, but the person who will be eating the pizza doesn't like their pizzas... :?

We have been loyal to the same pizza bar for a long time, I have taught such loyalty to my family...to have to go back on that and tell a 6 year old that he can't have that pizza anymore, even though the pizza bar is still there making great pizza, and he loves their pizza and cried when I told him we'd have to swap pizza bars...is just not right.

Anyway, pizza management are sorting the situation out and hopefully there will be a good outcome...

[Rodney]

Good luck RM - I just thought I would help you understand the thinking of the other pizza bars - its not easy and at times and choices one way or another have to be made- I understand your stance on loyalty but sometimes you have to weigh up whats best for your situation (the cost of the pizzas is only one of the factors that need thinking about as you have stated) in then end also.

the joys of being a pizza maker ps I will ask you about your pizzas next time I see ya

[prefly]

Its funny how lots of people are coming back to our local pizza joint after try other pizza's and finding in these days its just not worth the extra money when the pizza's is just as good and you get a free coke and garlic bread, besides pizza is a bit of a luxury to some people when they have 3/4 kids at school.

[redmum]

Its funny how lots of people are coming back to our local pizza joint after try other pizza's and finding in these days its just not worth the extra money when the pizza's is just as good and you get a free coke and garlic bread, besides pizza is a bit of a luxury to some people when they have 3/4 kids at school.

Yes pizza can certainly be a bit of a luxury when you're a single mum...but the look in that little pizza-lover's eyes won't let me say no, you can't have pizza!

[Rodney]

I think you will find there are (in some cases) new pizza bars opening in local areas - that are offering free cokes and garlic breads with a different way of making it and it tastes better and there are some locals that are now buying from the new shop

[redmum]

I think you will find there are (in some cases) new pizza bars opening in local areas - that are offering free cokes and garlic breads with a different way of making it and it tastes better and there are some locals that are now buying from the new shop

I haven't heard of any new pizza bars... :? Are they advertising at all? Should I know about said new local pizza bar? :?

[redmum]

Good luck RM - I just thought I would help you understand the thinking of the other pizza bars - its not easy and at times and choices one way or another have to be made- I understand your stance on loyalty but sometimes you have to weigh up whats best for your situation (the cost of the pizzas is only one of the factors that need thinking about as you have stated) in then end also.

the joys of being a pizza maker ps I will ask you about your pizzas next time I see ya

that would be good! Because at the moment I am sitting looking at the computer with this look :? on my face, thinking "oh no, another person I met after too many wines and can't remember who they are" !!

[Rodney]

I think you will find there are (in some cases) new pizza bars opening in local areas - that are offering free cokes and garlic breads with a different way of making it and it tastes better and there are some locals that are now buying from the new shop

I haven't heard of any new pizza bars... :? Are they advertising at all? Should I know about said new local pizza bar? :?

I haven't heard of any new pizza bars... :? maybe its an old pizza bar heading in a new direction

Are they advertising at all? yes

Should I know about said new local pizza bar? you do but it probably doesnt suit your situation

[Rodney]

Good luck RM - I just thought I would help you understand the thinking of the other pizza bars - its not easy and at times and choices one way or another have to be made- I understand your stance on loyalty but sometimes you have to weigh up whats best for your situation (the cost of the pizzas is only one of the factors that need thinking about as you have stated) in then end also.

the joys of being a pizza maker ps I will ask you about your pizzas next time I see ya

that would be good! Because at the moment I am sitting looking at the computer with this look :? on my face, thinking "oh no, another person I met after too many wines and can't remember who they are" !!

you have met me on a few occasions when not under the influence of the devils drink I believe, so all good - ps :? a bit longer

[Željko Jurin]

Its funny how lots of people are coming back to our local pizza joint after try other pizza's and finding in these days its just not worth the extra money when the pizza's is just as good and you get a free coke and garlic bread, besides pizza is a bit of a luxury to some people when they have 3/4 kids at school.

Yes pizza can certainly be a bit of a luxury when you're a single mum...but the look in that little pizza-lover's eyes won't let me say no, you can't have pizza!

Then Redmum, stick to the pizza he loves !!!! Dont forget, it's ALL about him, and it's all for him, so make him happy
Yes, it might cost a little bit more, but work it out per week ($2 extra), for the year. How many vino's can you get for $2 now-a-days ??? And you might get free anchovies later in the year if your nice to them

Dont forget, it's about the kids Redmum, not us !!!

[redmum]

Its funny how lots of people are coming back to our local pizza joint after try other pizza's and finding in these days its just not worth the extra money when the pizza's is just as good and you get a free coke and garlic bread, besides pizza is a bit of a luxury to some people when they have 3/4 kids at school.

Yes pizza can certainly be a bit of a luxury when you're a single mum...but the look in that little pizza-lover's eyes won't let me say no, you can't have pizza!

Then Redmum, stick to the pizza he loves !!!! Dont forget, it's ALL about him, and it's all for him, so make him happy
Yes, it might cost a little bit more, but work it out per week ($2 extra), for the year. How many vino's can you get for $2 now-a-days ??? And you might get free anchovies later in the year if your nice to them

Dont forget, it's about the kids Redmum, not us !!!

yes, but if I agree to pay the pizza bar he loves 75% extra this year...what will they be asking next year? And by then little pizza-lover would be addicted to their pizza and they'd be no way I could drag him away!

I guess thats the chance we all take though..

Will let you know outcome of pizza saga soon.......

[PunkFarker]

Note: it is not guaranteed that the player will get much of a start! So, may be on the bench for most of season unless he is an exceptional player, in which case if exceptional would be a first starter in any team already. So, I would assume as virtually all clubs by now have filled their teams with their "best choice" players, not much quality is left to play U16/U17 A's at AC.
I'm not singling out AC here, but unfortunately it is fact (FFSA rules, correct me if I'm wrong) that U16's and U17's don't have to be given game/match time. Hmmm, very expensive and demoralising to sit on the bench most of season
I know of other clubs as well that just want to fill the quota to get the $$$ - it's a shame but it DOES happen.
Good Luck to the players trialling, at the very least they will be part of a decent team (I can't comment on the coach or the club).
Remember AC are all about winning!

[juniors]

PunkFarker
what you have said is not true.

I can't comment on the coach or the club).

SO DON"T.
Adelaide City

[theSPURSkid]

i must agree with punk farker. if you look at the 1 or 2 players that are new to the club will probebly sit on the bench unless they are very talented (which i doubt at this time) because 17s is not interchange but 3 subs. so i will not pay 900 to watch my kid sit on the bench.