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any ones thoughts on the manchester utd cup that is held pre season starts late feb early march
only for 94 born u15s next year. any information :? :clown:
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red eye wrote:any ones thoughts on the manchester utd cup that is held pre season starts late feb early march
only for 94 born u15s next year. any information :? :clown:


look out for campbelltown at old trafford :D :wink: :mrgreen: :clown: :P :!:
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Bit limiting if you've got an U15 side with quite a few U14s playing?

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Green_Manalishi wrote:Bit limiting if you've got an U15 side with quite a few U14s playing?

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I think you'll find most clubs involved will be putting a special U15 team together; how many U15 lads playing up an age group or two? Clubs should put in their best team, if they want any real chance of getting anywhere.
FFSA wrote:MAN UTD PREMIER CUP HITS SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Imagine travelling around the world whilst playing football. It sounds alright doesn't it, but the Manchester United Premier Cup (MUPC) is no kick about. This is where some of the finest U-15s football is played as talented youngsters come up against the best of the best from around the world.

This year the MUPC will expand to include playoffs in South Australia and ACT, with the winners to battle against the best from New South Wales, Victoria, Northern NSW, Queensland and New Zealand.

The winning club of the Australian/New Zealand tournament will be flown to the UK to play against the top 20 clubs at Under 15 level in the world at Manchester United in England with the Semi Finals and Final to be played on Old Trafford.

New Zealand club Central United were crowned the 2008 MUPC Pacific winners when they defeated Newcastle FC 4-2 on penalties.

The MUPC gives talented under fifteen year olds the chance to show off their skills and come up against other young footballers from around the globe. They get to play on an international stage and meet and compete with the best of their class.

MUPC started out as a regional tournament in 1993 and has grown into one of the largest and best known football events of its kind. Over 1,000,000 players have taken part, with over 9,000 teams from more than 40 countries competing this year. That's some serious football.

The MUPC is jointly sponsored by Nike and Manchester United as part of their commitment to grassroots development.

Manchester United and Nike are passionate about the beautiful game so they decided to partner up and get involved with the MUPC in 2003.

Nike and the FFSA invite one under 15 team from FFSA affiliated clubs to compete in the South Australian leg.

The South Australian tournament will be held in late February and early March. Full competition details to be announced once team nominations are received.

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shame on kids missing out due to teams stacking kids from older teams. i know they can play kids that are 94 born from within their club just harsh on little johnny just done trials and got in now cant play in the rag cup. but in saying that my sons team would be bloody strong :wink:
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Yes, we have entered purely and simply as a preperation for season '09. If anything comes of it, then great. If not, at least it saves the hassle of organising pre-season games. :wink:
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robinfriday10 wrote:shame on kids missing out due to teams stacking kids from older teams. i know they can play kids that are 94 born from within their club just harsh on little johnny just done trials and got in now cant play in the rag cup. but in saying that my sons team would be bloody strong :wink:
I disagree! It's not stacking teams!

A couple of questions:
  • Why should the correctly aged kids miss out? The younger kids will get their chance.
    Shouldn't clubs field their best team to make the tournament as competetive as possible? Just like STIC
To me, this should be like any top competition; you field the best team possible being fair to all involved. Work it just like STIC, so that the players of correct age get a chance to show their stuff, the younger kids have next year to look forward to.
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johnydep wrote: I disagree! It's not stacking teams!

A couple of questions:
  • Why should the correctly aged kids miss out? The younger kids will get their chance.
    Shouldn't clubs field their best team to make the tournament as competetive as possible? Just like STIC
To me, this should be like any top competition; you field the best team possible being fair to all involved. Work it just like STIC, so that the players of correct age get a chance to show their stuff, the younger kids have next year to look forward to.
There is no easy answer. It's not stacking teams and in a perfect world what you suggest would work....but what you are relying on is consistency and continuinity amongst clubs and coaches and we all know that ain't never going to happen - the opportunity next year may never in fact eventuate.

I believe others are taking rabbit's more laid back approach which in the long run could be a good thing.

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Green_Manalishi wrote:
johnydep wrote: I disagree! It's not stacking teams!

A couple of questions:
  • Why should the correctly aged kids miss out? The younger kids will get their chance.
    Shouldn't clubs field their best team to make the tournament as competetive as possible? Just like STIC
To me, this should be like any top competition; you field the best team possible being fair to all involved. Work it just like STIC, so that the players of correct age get a chance to show their stuff, the younger kids have next year to look forward to.
There is no easy answer. It's not stacking teams and in a perfect world what you suggest would work....but what you are relying on is consistency and continuinity amongst clubs and coaches and we all know that ain't never going to happen - the opportunity next year may never in fact eventuate.

I believe others are taking rabbit's more laid back approach which in the long run could be a good thing.

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Not for the kids that are at the correct age and will never get another chance. I realise that the Championships is mainly up to the coaches, so good luck to them all and I hope you enjoy the time. Keep us all informed on the process.

At the end we'll see which teams did well and which clubs gave their loyal and correctly aged players a last chance to show off their skills.
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I believe others are taking rabbit's more laid back approach which in the long run could be a good thing.

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For those that know me, my approach will definitely not be laid back.
We will give it as big a shake as we can and I will be picking the best squad to enter the competition. :wink:
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My understanding is that only '94 born players are eligible so others playing up are not allowed to play....maybe someone can clarify....
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Hollygirl wrote:My understanding is that only '94 born players are eligible so others playing up are not allowed to play....maybe someone can clarify....
That’s Correct however you will find that there a quite a few 94 born players playing for the under 16 or 17 teams, these players would still qualify to play in the under 15 as they were born in 94
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From FFSA club information anyone 15 and under can play


Matches are 50 minutes to fall in line with the MUPC Rules. The competition is open to players born 1994 and after.
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Details released by the FFSA today. Over 2 weekends 27th feb- 1st March and 8th/9th March
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SASI will win this competition easily with the U/15 team they have assembled.
All players are registered to SASI. Should go close to making it all way i'd say.
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Filikis Eterias wrote:SASI will win this competition easily with the U/15 team they have assembled.
All players are registered to SASI. Should go close to making it all way i'd say.
Would SASI be able to enter as it is a club based competition?
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Hollygirl wrote:
Filikis Eterias wrote:SASI will win this competition easily with the U/15 team they have assembled.
All players are registered to SASI. Should go close to making it all way i'd say.
Would SASI be able to enter as it is a club based competition?
SASI is not included in this comp
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They didn't apply but having said that if they did could they indeed be rejected by the FFSA seeing they comply with all the rules of actually competing as a club in this years Premier League?
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Groups have been drawn, dont think you can find them on the net as of yet but i know Blue Eagles have White City, Playford and WT Birkalla. Top 2 advance.
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Manchester United Premier Cup Groupings


Group 1

Adelaide City
Campbelltown City
Gawler
Beverley Lions
Northern Demons

Group 2
Modbury
Noarlunga United
Enfield City
Playford City
Plympton

Group 3

West Adelaide
Western Strikers
Adelaide Comets
Salisbury United
Gambier Centrals

Group 4

Para Hills
Raiders
Panthers
Toros

Group 5

Cumberland United
Croydon
Adelaide Cobras
Sturt Thunder

Group 6

Adelaide Blue Eagles
W.T. Birkalla
Pirates
White City Woodville
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How does it work, top 2 get through to the next stage or what?
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pulse wrote:How does it work, top 2 get through to the next stage or what?
No, groups 1, 2 and 3 which feature groups of 5 teams, the first, second and third placed
teams will advance.

Groups 4, 5, and 6 fearue groups of 4 teams, first and second placed will advance
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have the fixtures been released yet?
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Yes, will give out to our lads next week :wink:
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re johnydep's comments - I agree! that said, if the FFSA has anything to do with it then they'll probably issue a directive like they did do a certain JPL club last year limiting places for STIC to only 5 kids when there were about 9 nominated who would have been walk up starts.
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Which age group would that be find it hard to belive that 1 team has 9 players better than any other teams in thier league.
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an under 12 club - there were definitely more than 5 nominated - may not have been exactly 9 but more than 5 and we don't know if they were better because the FFSA told the coach 5 was the limit from each club.
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Allrise wrote:an under 12 club - there were definitely more than 5 nominated - may not have been exactly 9 but more than 5 and we don't know if they were better because the FFSA told the coach 5 was the limit from each club.
Well that's the problem you're gonna get when a new coach brings 5-6 players from another club to MAKE a "super" team to win the u/12 World Cup
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Does anyone know if this tournament will still be played on the 28th of Feb if Adelaide United made the A- League GF.
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