Hoffenheim

[Piola]

He might be, born in Strasbourg few km from the border, which has at times been a part of what is now known as Germany, plus the town in most likely Bilingual. Lot of trade went on between nearby cities as pertol was cheaper in Germany and the french would bring over food etc to swap.

Wenger has a degree in engineering and a Master's degree in economics = Lol

Haha, when my some of my family lived and worked in Germany about 30 years ago, they did all their shopping etc in Switzerland because it was half price compared to German shops. Lived right on the border.

[pires7]

Yeah wages in West Germany were the best in the world back in the day, making some things more expensive than they should have been, my Granddad worked at BASF plant then after this they give you a house and pension for life for you and your wife.

Lucky some smart bastard rolling cigarettes realised he could stick magnets to the plastic cover, and thus invented the Casette Then the USA just stole all they could after the war.

[ForzaChievo]

Chievo did not have all this money and resources to compete with the big clubs. What they had was the will to win, heart, and a smart coach.

This is a side who outshone city rivals Verona, went to the San Siro in December 2001 and beat the league leaders Inter 2-1 (Corradi scored the winner IIRC) and lead for 6 weeks. All on a budget this Hopp guy would have in change. Then the Chievo player Jason Mayele died in March, but they still were such a tough nut to crack. And then they finished in the UEFA Cup positions. And it was no one hit wonder, with another couple of solid showing in the following seasons.

When they beat Fiorentina 2-0 in round 1 everybody was shocked, we simply did not expect that depsite Fiorentina being a shadow of the side from seasons prior. They went to Turin in round 3, lead 2-0 vs Juve before eventually losing 3-2 in a thriller. They were a team showing guts, determination, wee willing to fight for the shirt with a tactical understanding brought together by Gigi Del Neri.

It was a truly great story.

But the season is still young, so let's see how Hoffenheim continue.

Had a smaller population to boot! Quartiere of Chievo has only 2,000 people I think. They competed with the bigger club from their city and won out and are now building themselves a solid fanbase out of it.

A_mac can probably confirm.

Juventino & Laziale have pretty muched covered everything.

We also made the qualifying stages of Champions League, something Hoffenheim are yet to do.

Also, i never thought i would see the day Laziale giving praise to our supporters

[Piola]

Juventino& Laziale have pretty muched covered everything.

We also made the qualifying stages of Champions League, something Hoffenheim are yet to do.

Also, i never thought i would see the day Laziale giving praise to our supporters

I dont like to give praise

[pires7]

It would be more remarkable for a town that small in Australia as most of the land in Europe in inhabitable, a small villiage is never than far from a big one.