SAASL Meeting, did anyone go, what happened ?

[BeNatural]

i guess they dont support the ffa hence why they have scheduled a meeting the same night as the socceroos.

[marooned]

They should declare a public holiday after all it is the 34th ranked team in the world vs the 78th.

[Wraith]

4 hours to go.

IM EXCITED!

[History]

i guess they dont support the ffa hence why they have scheduled a meeting the same night as the socceroos.

what do you expect from AMATEUR's

[History]

4 hours to go.

IM EXCITED!

what are you excited about Crue ?

[Wraith]

I'm excited to hear about the exciting plans for the SAASL next year, and how the FFSA is the devil and we all should reject his temptations.



At least according to the few guys on here anyway.

[History]

I'm excited to hear about the exciting plans for the SAASL next year, and how the FFSA is the devil and we all should reject his temptations.



At least according to the few guys on here anyway.

[History]

i hear that the SAASL have summonsed Australia Post to attend for a "Please explain"

apparently a number of letters have gone missing

missing or lost in the system

or brushed under the carpet

[Wraith]

Stitch.

[tickets4cheese]

i hear that the SAASL have summonsed Australia Post to attend for a "Please explain"

apparently a number of letters have gone missing

missing or lost in the system

or brushed under the carpet

Broken Record

[History]

i hear that the SAASL have summonsed Australia Post to attend for a "Please explain"

apparently a number of letters have gone missing

missing or lost in the system

or brushed under the carpet

Broken Record

Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeese buddy!!! long time no speak... how are ya?

sorry about that... i was just passing on the info i heared from a high ranking official of Australia Post

[the gloves are off !!]

i guess they dont support the ffa hence why they have scheduled a meeting the same night as the socceroos.

what do you expect from AMATEUR's

Well you (as in Guus) were so interested in Australia that you pissed off to Russia ?

[the gloves are off !!]

i hear that the SAASL have summonsed Australia Post to attend for a "Please explain"

apparently a number of letters have gone missing

missing or lost in the system

or brushed under the carpet

[History]

i hear that the SAASL have summonsed Australia Post to attend for a "Please explain"

apparently a number of letters have gone missing

missing or lost in the system

or brushed under the carpet

only you

[History]

i guess they dont support the ffa hence why they have scheduled a meeting the same night as the socceroos.

what do you expect from AMATEUR's

Well you (as in Guus) were so interested in Australia that you pissed off to Russia ?

WHATEVER!

[To Mati]

Here is my perspective.

The SAASL certainly have alot to offer. The fact that there will be NO FEE increases for the next 5 years to 2013 (capped at 2008 costs) will secure alot of clubs, PURELY because the FFSA hasn't put such a plan in place. While what the FFSA has on offer appears to be attractive, the FFSA only have 'estimated' charges and fees etc and there is nothing concrete about what they truly have to offer - not even for season 2009. Any club in their right mind would not change direction if they didn't know where they were heading. I think this would be the ONLY issue preventing an SAASL club from crossing over.

Also the SAASL claims to be able to cross reference their database with the FFSA database to check on dual registrations. But what are they doing to prevent dual registrations in the first place? There were a few dual registered players this year and because the SAASL are not firm enough on their own regulations what is to stop clubs playing dual registered players? They certainly do not respond to official complaints as expected.

The SAASL are suggesting that they will look into holding the clubs responsible for inaccurate information at the time of registration. My questions are, firstly why should it be the clubs responsibility to check the ID of players and secondly if the clubs were to be held responsible, what would the consequences be for the club which deliberately submits incorrect information? From previous experience I would say that there will be no consequences. In the FFSA, there are penalties as there should be.

In my opinion it should be the responsibilty of the SAASL to verify the identities of potential players, and to seek a solution themselves rather than handballing it to the clubs.

[History]

Here is my perspective.

The SAASL certainly have alot to offer. The fact that there will be NO FEE increases for the next 5 years to 2013 (capped at 2008 costs) will secure alot of clubs, PURELY because the FFSA hasn't put such a plan in place. While what the FFSA has on offer appears to be attractive, the FFSA only have 'estimated' charges and fees etc and there is nothing concrete about what they truly have to offer - not even for season 2009. Any club in their right mind would not change direction if they didn't know where they were heading. I think this would be the ONLY issue preventing an SAASL club from crossing over.

Also the SAASL claims to be able to cross reference their database with the FFSA database to check on dual registrations. But what are they doing to prevent dual registrations in the first place? There were a few dual registered players this year and because the SAASL are not firm enough on their own regulations what is to stop clubs playing dual registered players? They certainly do not respond to official complaints as expected.

The SAASL are suggesting that they will look into holding the clubs responsible for inaccurate information at the time of registration. My questions are, firstly why should it be the clubs responsibility to check the ID of players and secondly if the clubs were to be held responsible, what would the consequences be for the club which deliberately submits incorrect information? From previous experience I would say that there will be no consequences. In the FFSA, there are penalties as there should be.

In my opinion it should be the responsibilty of the SAASL to verify the identities of potential players, and to seek a solution themselves rather than handballing it to the clubs.

intresting...

were there many club there ?

was it a good a turn out ?

[marooned]

Good to see Bill and Alex get the Socceroo's game delayed by an hour so the meeting could be finalised! Should'nt they be called the Footballroo's? Mmmm sometimes change is not good.

[Latte]

Here is my perspective.

The SAASL certainly have alot to offer. The fact that there will be NO FEE increases for the next 5 years to 2013 (capped at 2008 costs) will secure alot of clubs, PURELY because the FFSA hasn't put such a plan in place. While what the FFSA has on offer appears to be attractive, the FFSA only have 'estimated' charges and fees etc and there is nothing concrete about what they truly have to offer - not even for season 2009. Any club in their right mind would not change direction if they didn't know where they were heading. I think this would be the ONLY issue preventing an SAASL club from crossing over.

Also the SAASL claims to be able to cross reference their database with the FFSA database to check on dual registrations. But what are they doing to prevent dual registrations in the first place? There were a few dual registered players this year and because the SAASL are not firm enough on their own regulations what is to stop clubs playing dual registered players? They certainly do not respond to official complaints as expected.

The SAASL are suggesting that they will look into holding the clubs responsible for inaccurate information at the time of registration. My questions are, firstly why should it be the clubs responsibility to check the ID of players and secondly if the clubs were to be held responsible, what would the consequences be for the club which deliberately submits incorrect information? From previous experience I would say that there will be no consequences. In the FFSA, there are penalties as there should be.

In my opinion it should be the responsibilty of the SAASL to verify the identities of potential players, and to seek a solution themselves rather than handballing it to the clubs.

intresting...

were there many club there ?

was it a good a turn out ?

Very Very interesting, did Billy no say hallo tu you last night?

You very big boy and Uncle Billy tell me, that you trouble. You drink all de free beera anna stilla complaina. Disa beera we buy with youra money, oh anda de Peroni, PHHHHTUUUUUU.

[marooned]

Imposter Alex wrote

You drink all de free beera anna stilla complaina. Disa beera we buy with youra money, oh anda de Peroni

Thats funny Alex why do you have a Italian accent. Obviously your imposter dosn't know you are actually Irish.

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

I tell you what Guus and those guys with the Cichanowski and Bailey usernames.

Alex and Bill have been involved for a very long time with the Amateur League and their record is there for everyone to see.

What have you guys achieved?

[To Mati]

I tell you what Guus and those guys with the Cichanowski and Bailey usernames.

Alex and Bill have been involved for a very long time with the Amateur League and their record is there for everyone to see.

What have you guys achieved?

Yet they have SO MUCH to improve on, and simple things too like avoiding dual registrations!

[Shaken Not Stirred]

We are all getting a little sick and tired of you guys slagging off Bill, Alex and the some of the guys on this forum thread who work tirelessly for there clubs and the amateur league to ensure this entity succeeds year in and year out so all of you can enjoy a game with your mates on a Saturday or Sunday. Some of you children need to grow up, stop writing crap and start giving these guys the respect they deserve.

[marooned]

Hortic Majico wrote

Yet they have SO MUCH to improve on, and simple things too like avoiding dual registrations

SHHHHHHHH Dont upset Hortico just agree with him or ELSE

[Wraith]

He has a valid point Marooned.

[To Mati]

Hortic Majico wrote

Yet they have SO MUCH to improve on, and simple things too like avoiding dual registrations

SHHHHHHHH Dont upset Hortico just agree with him or ELSE

is it not the truth?

What is so difficult about verifying the identity of someone who wants to register. Cross checking the database is good but what wouyld be the point if you cant positively ID the player anyway. Major Flaw. Its not difficult to verify an ID these days.

The saasl have done a great job, and I applaud them for their time into the game, but instead of preventing dual registrations they simply do not want to know. In my opinion it is an important issue, with a simple solution.

Marooned is your club one of them which had dual registered players?

[To Mati]

next year I WILL be registered as "Horto 'alepou' Magiko"

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

It is up to clubs to ensure they do not register dual players.

If a club is found out then I agree SAASL should come down hard.

[Wraith]

It is up to clubs to ensure they do not register dual players.

If a club is found out then I agree SAASL should come down hard.

The problem here PPG is, once the clubs have been caught, nothing happens.

The SAASL needs to address this also, because the club will have ulterior motives and will try to manipulate the system.

We need to have FIRM rules and penalties, similar to the FFSA.

[Aldo Serena]

Obviously you guys have had an issue with dual registered players and Bill & Alex admitted (in a roundabout way!) that there is an error with the system and will be trying to fix the issue - case closed.

I thought Bill and Alex handled the meeting quite well last night, and cleared up a lot of the mis-conceptions out there in regards to discussions with the FFSA. In regards to Amateurs/Metro League, Michael Carter has an agenda he needs to push (the FFSA providing an amateur comp) and the SAASL has its member clubs to protect. I sincerely hope that there can be some common ground found between the FFSA and SAASL, but it doesn't look like the stalemate will end anytime soon.