Tottenham Hotspur 08/09 season

[SPURS18]

commoli is the solution, hope he stays forever

100% agree with you there

[SPURS18]

Its not looking good guys im worried, it all started with those two twats Commolli and Levy they have ruined the club getting rid of Jol after he got us finishing 5th two years in a row which is our highest finish ever it just doesnt make sense and then to blow 77 million on players that are average at best Modric is bottle of shiraz terrible what a waste of money he is same with Bent, i would have prefer to sign Romario then Pav oh and by the way hes out for 3 weeks but thank god we have quality replacements in the striking department, Campbells a joke to young and his comments in the transfer window really sums him up, Gomes is worse than Robinson i didnt think that was possible, the 546 turns corners better than Corluka he looks so sluggish, King really needs to start playing every game, Bales been excellent Gunther is solid and will improve with time Woodgates been disappointing but it doesnt help when theres a new face next to you every game Gio looks ok but a little young i love his runs needs to start doing it more Lennons improved alot but i would like him to have an impact like the way Young does for Villa similar players skillful, lightning quick. Zokoras been ok needs to start snapping some champagne in the midfield though

Champ, i pretty much agree with nothing in your post so ill start from the top.
Jol's run of form before he got sacked was terrible, not unlike Ramos's current one, so im guessing you were calling for his head as well d (I dont think either of them should have or be sacked) and just so we dont get too deluded we were easily the 5th best team one year, the next year we sold our most influential player, i.e. Carrick and we only came 5th on the last day of the season and was no where near breaking the top four.
We 'Blow' 77 Million on players because our best players want to leave and play for better champions league clubs, we came in about even this window. Campbell only came here cause we couldn't get Asharvin, Garcia, Milito or whoever else we were supposed to get, penny pinching for Berba cost us big time.
Corluka is head and houlders above Dawson. King will never play every game, he shouldn't be captain and he should only be brought into the Uefa games so that Woody and Corluka can gain some consistancy.
Woodgate didn't play well on the weekend but he has pretty much been our best player so far this season, im not sure what games your watching. Gomes worst than Robinson?? some ppl have really short memories.
Lennon was at this best two years ago, he was bad last year and has got a little better this year, he still cant cross, it amazes me how a professional footballer onthe brink of the national team who obviously needs to practise practise practise his crossing is still bad, maybe its not his fault he has never really looked like a really good naturally gifted footballer, he just has pace to burn I hate to say it but Walnut from the woolwich wanderers looks twice as good as Lennon.
I think we will eventually come good, i certainly hope we do, I can see us spending that Berba money in january on a forward or two (Heskey and Owen? maybe Asharvin), possibly selling Bent and hopefully splurging on someone like Barry.

First of all how is Jols run any different to Ramos in fact Ramos has been worse we didnt win after the Carling cup final last year so from Feb to May we were on holiday and we obviously havent won this season please explain. At least with Jol we were making big progress in little time i mean finishing 5th and nearly pinching fourth place is pretty fucking good to me since we have never finished above 9th ever. Whos fault was it when we were penny pinching for Berba? Commoli and Levy surprise surprise they have fucking ruined the club i cant believe no one is doing a dame thing about it. Gomes has let in some soft goals this year i mean even against Hull Geovanni was basically on the half way line and he just watched it go in, I think it will be a long season for us fighting to stay up and i really hope someone takes charge of the January signings because those 2 other twats have made a mockery of this one.

[delfino_1936]

at Corluka leaving Man Citeh for Spuds, worst move than Bentley leaving Blackburn

[ramosrules]

you blokes were heaps happy when Ramos came in for Jol... hell even I thought it was a good move!!! But alas the problem lies much deeper than that, I think both Jol and Ramos could of/can succeed if the situation is right, with those 2 's in charge you havent got a chance. Imagine not letting the manager have any say in buying and selling players?!?

Malbronque was a gun, but you keep Lennon/Huddlestone/who ever no name was in there recently... you could get a lot of money for Lennon, and he really isn't tht good. Jermaine Pennant in disguise.

Modric, Bentley, GDS and Jenas. Where is your top class defensive midfielder to release these players?

While most of the stuff you posted makes sense,,,,, im pretty sure most fans weren't happy when Jol got the sack, most fans were pretty disgusted and even during his last match in charge there were chants of stand up for Martin Jol with the whole crowd standing (its on youtube). Was during a Uefa match and most of the crowd/players found out by half time, before even Jol knew, even if i was a Jol hater (which im not) that is shocking practise to say the least. Just in case anyone didnt know Jol is a huge Spurs fan and even since hes been sacked hes said nothing but good things about Tottenham, plus he hated Wengker, which as you could imagine was a bit of a plus.
On the DOF/Manager relationship, its the done thing in Europe, Ramos did it at Seville, im not sure about other clubs but im guessing there are more of this type of relationship than the English model where the manager does everything, maybe some of the Italian/Greek supporters could add to this.
Even Ramos has said that getting in players is a team exercise, where he gives the DOF (comolli) a list of attributes and then Comolli finds the right player. In Jol's last year he was supposed to have asked Comolli for a CB a DM and a Striker to compliment his existing squad and the players he got were Kabul, Boatang and Bent, thats where the relationship turned bad. Comolli has since failed to aquire strikers in this window, the question Spurs fans want answered is did Comolli find these players? im probably guessing he did, only that Levy couldn't get the deals done in time, im guessing Asharvin was pencilled in but then we got fucked around by the Russians and because of the Berba deal we had no time left to go for other players. Players like Milito- who was signed on the last day of the window and then told everyone of his love for Genoa, seems a bit of a wank. Anyway, Levy or Commoli fucked up, im guessing it was Levy otherwise Comolli would be gone by now. While i think both of them have ground to be pissed off, i hope we keep all three and rectify the situation come january, and maybe even find a little bit of form before, theres not much point in sacking them and getting in new ppl to prolong the period of settling in, if in 1-2 years we are still shit then fair enough. Championship or not.

As for whoever said King only plays in Uefa, he only can play one game a week max, so its better to give Woody and Corluka a run in the prem, Corluka is cuptied so he cant play in the Uefa, so then King comes in, surely this isn't rocket science, its better than changing every other game and its better than dawson playing.

[TDGv2]

at Corluka leaving Man Citeh for Spuds, worst move than Bentley leaving Blackburn

Even "worst" move than you not turning up for English classes.

[delfino_1936]

at Corluka leaving Man Citeh for Spuds, worst move than Bentley leaving Blackburn

Even "worst" move than you not turning up for English classes.

people picking grammar errors only when it suits them

worse*

[TDGv2]

It all went downhill when Arnesen went to Chelsea and Commoli came in. Jol was Arnesen's man. When we appointed Santini, Arnesen wasnted Jol. Levy wanted a "name" and appointed Santini thinking he'd guide France to winning the Euros, and what a coup that would be with the victorious manager now at the helm of Spurs. From memory, France had a shocker.

Jol stepped up and everybody loved him. He had his shortcomings, but like Vidmar, was learning from them. He was still a young, developing coach who would learn from his mistakes.

Arnesen chased the rubel signs at Chelsea and Commoli was brought in. Commoli had delusions of grandeur and believed Spurs could easily get top 4 with a "top" manager, and put this belief in Levy's head. There were rumours about that Jol's position was under threat when we finished 5th for the second consecutive season. Ridiculous.

That Summer, instead of buying Petrov, Woodgate and Diarra like Jol wanted, we bought Boateng, Kaboul and Bent.

Jol knew he had lost his position of power.

That's not to say Jol was an angel in all of this. Every time a job position came up, such as Newcastle which he was approached for, he used it as a bargaining chip to increase his salary at Spurs. Remember, he was on an assistant manager's salary to begin with. Spurs took a punt on him initially. His salary probably pales in comparison to what Ramos is on now.

The signs weren't good when Jol was eventually given the sack. However, he had credit in the bank. When news trickled out, the majority of Spurs fans were disgusted. Not only was Jol our most recently successful boss, but he was the kind of manager you just loved. The touchline toe-to-toe with Wenger. The bear hugs. The post-game interviews. The comments about his wife. He and Mourinho laughing about Wenger's antics. He WAS Spurs.

Now we have Ramos. I guess we were all optimistic when he came in. Why wouldn't you be? But obviously things haven't worked out as planned.

I think Ramos should stay, but Commoli should be given the flick. We should ask Ramos what he needs to be successful and give it to him.

[King Ledley]

Its not looking good guys im worried, it all started with those two twats Commolli and Levy they have ruined the club getting rid of Jol after he got us finishing 5th two years in a row which is our highest finish ever it just doesnt make sense and then to blow 77 million on players that are average at best Modric is bottle of shiraz terrible what a waste of money he is same with Bent, i would have prefer to sign Romario then Pav oh and by the way hes out for 3 weeks but thank god we have quality replacements in the striking department, Campbells a joke to young and his comments in the transfer window really sums him up, Gomes is worse than Robinson i didnt think that was possible, the 546 turns corners better than Corluka he looks so sluggish, King really needs to start playing every game, Bales been excellent Gunther is solid and will improve with time Woodgates been disappointing but it doesnt help when theres a new face next to you every game Gio looks ok but a little young i love his runs needs to start doing it more Lennons improved alot but i would like him to have an impact like the way Young does for Villa similar players skillful, lightning quick. Zokoras been ok needs to start snapping some champagne in the midfield though

The stuff in bold is absolute nonsense

So what your telling me King Ledley is Corlukas been playing ok if you are then i must be bottle of shiraz blind he has been woeful at best

Sure he hasn't been playing at his best but who else would you rather play? I would take Corluka over Dawson and Gunter any day.

[King Ledley]

I think Ramos should stay, but Commoli should be given the flick. We should ask Ramos what he needs to be successful and give it to him.

[barbarez01]

Corluka has been Tottenhams best player in recent weeks, when everyone has been putting in shite performances he is the only one that is doing ok.

[ramosrules]

Ramos must get along with Comolli, as it was Comolli that got him there in the first place,
Short of getting the DOF of Seville, (who im sure would let him come to us ) i think Ramos would like Comolli to stay, to be fair since Jol has left the majority of Comolli/Ramos signings have been pretty decent, this is a personal opinion, but Woodgate,Hutton,Modric,Dos Santos,Pav,Gomes,Corluka,Bentley who out of them are not good players?
We just fucked up with the striker and DM positions

[ramosrules]

Corluka has been Tottenhams best player in recent weeks, when everyone has been putting in shite performances he is the only one that is doing ok.

Just looks a little slow, i dont think hes been playing badly but i think he has some improving to do and as he has only played maybe 5 games, im sure he will improve.

[King Ledley]

Spurs announce partnership with Earthquakes


Tottenham have announced a ''football and commercial development'' partnership with American club San Jose Earthquakes.


Spurs, who are bottom of the Barclays Premier League, view the United States as an important market and will work with their MLS partners to look at areas such as marketing around their stadium.

In turn, the Earthquakes can use the training and coaching models from Spurs.

A statement from Spurs read: ''The agreement will focus on football and commercial development that will see the implementation of a best practice exchange programme, with the objective of creating a lasting bond between the two clubs.''

MLS contract rules, with players franchised from the league, means Spurs could not use the Earthquakes as a feeder club, although they could still loan players to them as they would to other teams.

The partnership raises the possibility of a pre-season tour to America, which Chelsea have previously done as they look to expand their brand. Spurs are currently one year into a partnership with South African league champions SuperSport United.

''This agreement with San Jose Earthquakes will provide us with an excellent opportunity to access a key region in a global market,'' said Spurs executive director Paul Barber.

''As a club we are continually looking for innovative ways to evolve and our partnership with the Earthquakes will enable us to market Tottenham to a wider audience.

''We already have a fan base within the state of California and the opportunity to grow the brand in the US is very appealing.''

Tapping into the American market would inevitably increase the value of the club, although Spurs have consistently denied they are actively looking to sell the club.

[delfino_1936]

Tottenham midfielder David Bentley admits the Premier League's bottom club have become a laughing stock as they have claimed just two points from their first seven matches - their worst start to a season since 1912.

[King Ledley]

Tottenham midfielder David Bentley admits the Premier League's bottom club have become a laughing stock as they have claimed just two points from their first seven matches - their worst start to a season since 1912.

Tottenham midfielder David Bentley admits the Premier League's bottom club have become a laughing stock as they have claimed just two points from their first seven matches - their worst start to a season since 1912.



Manager Juande Ramos, having been in the job for just under a year, is under increasing pressure while questions are being asked of sporting director Damien Comolli's activity in the transfer market, allowing experienced strikers Dimitar Berbatov, Robbie Keane and Jermain Defoe to all leave the club in the last 10 months without finding suitable replacements.

''I know people are having a laugh at the fact we are bottom of the league at the moment but it's up to everyone at the club to stop the jokes,'' said Bentley.

''We're not happy with what has been happening. You cannot hide from the situation but what we need are a team of leaders who take responsibility. We have to grow as people.

''We have more than enough good players at Tottenham to get us out of this situation and I give my word that we will.''

Reports had suggested Bentley blamed Ramos for missing out on the current England squad for not playing him often enough and playing him out of position.

Although the winger, who moved to White Hart Lane from Blackburn in the summer for £15million, does not regret the switch to north London and is says he is backing Ramos to turn things around.

''I'm fully behind him, 100%,'' the 24-year-old told The Sun.

''I still love being at Spurs and I don't regret joining the club for one second.

''I know I haven't been at my best but I haven't become a bad player in a fortnight. The manager believes in me.''

[SpursOnTheRise]

''I know I haven't been at my best but I haven't become a bad player in a fortnight.

atleast he recognises hes playling like shit.


lol @ reports Juve are in for Modric!

[Robbie Keane THFC]

''I know I haven't been at my best but I haven't become a bad player in a fortnight.

atleast he recognises hes playling like cabernet.


lol @ reports Juve are in for Modric!

Heard that abt Modric 2, what a load of crap!

[SpursOnTheRise]

Apparently the club has given Ramos 6 games to turn things around, if not, hes out.

[pires7]

Apparently the club has given Ramos 6 games to turn things around, if not, hes out.

what would you consider turning it around, couple wins at home.

I can't believe early on in the year, I expected spurs to pick up points from the majority of their games bar Chelsea at the Bridge. There must be a logical explanation for the poor start. Looks like the club need to find people who can put their finger on it.

[SpursOnTheRise]

Our next 6 games are, Stoke, Bolton, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City and Fulham. I think he would need to get atleast 10 points from those to keep the job.

[delfino_1936]

Our next 6 games are, Stoke, Bolton, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City and Fulham. I think he would need to get atleast 10 points from those to keep the job.

make it, you guys should be at least getting 10 points from 5 games, because i've already written in a loss in bold

[SpursOnTheRise]

i know we will lose that, especially seeing as it at the emirates, but we can beat Stoke, Bolton and Fulham, draw with Man City and lose to Liverpool and Arsenal.

I think that Liverpool fixture is at the Lane, if he is ever gonna score for the reds, its gonna be at the lane.

[Robbie Keane THFC]

Apparently the club has given Ramos 6 games to turn things around, if not, hes out.

what would you consider turning it around, couple wins at home.

I can't believe early on in the year, I expected spurs to pick up points from the majority of their games bar Chelsea at the Bridge. There must be a logical explanation for the poor start. Looks like the club need to find people who can put their finger on it.

Yeah and at the bridge we got a very respectabal draw. Agree with what u have said P7

[SPURS18]

We wont beat Stoke away shit we cant even score to save our lives at the moment and with Pav out for 3 weeks i wouldnt be holding your breathe for Bent and Campbell to do the job

[TDGv2]

After those 6 games, we need to be out of the relegation zone, no excuses. If we're still bottom 3, drastic action is required. Bring in Venables for the remainder of the season. It becomes about survival, not this obsession with buying our way into the Champs League. Start again next season afresh with Poyet in charge.

[TM87]

I read in the a Bosnian newspaper the other day that Tottenham are interested in Bosnian International and current top goalscorer in the German Bundesliga Vedad Ibišević. They say hes the next Berbatov.

[TM87]

Vedad Ibišević was a great Tottenham reinforcement, claim English media. Specifically, the web-site www.sportigo.com English journalist brings current analysis part of the season for "spurse", that is, for reminders, are on the last place in the Premiership.

Journalist Sportiga so suggest the leadership team from London to seek some new solutions in the attack, since the arrival of Russians Pavlyuchenka Romana, which is next to that of injured, failed to compensate for the departure of Bulgarian Dimitri Berbatov and Robbie Kean.

"The problem can be solved by Tottenham two players who are currently attracting attention all over Europe football. One of them is the Bosnian-Herzegovinian attacker Hoffenheima Vedad Ibišević who is currently Bundesliga top scorer with seven hits achieved. Game reminiscent of Berbatov, ongoing threat to the opponent's goal, even has a similar physical material as the Bulgarian attacker. The ratio of its price and quality is extremely favorable, so that its restoration would represent a real hit for Spurs ", stands at sportigo.com.

[SpursOnTheRise]

Well boys, its Stoke this weekend i think the fact we are away might suit us just fine at the moment, if i was a Spurs player at the moment i know i wouldnt really want to play at the Lane after how the fans have been booing them.

I think we will either lose 1-0 again or win 1-0, i think we might create one good chance and capitalise but thats about it.

[King Ledley]

Team news


Alan Hutton has returned to training ahead of Sunday's Barclays Premier League clash at Stoke City.

The Scottish international has missed the first two months of the campaign with a foot injury sustained during pre-season.

But Gilberto is a doubt for the trip to the Britannia Stadium after a medial ligament sprain.

Meanwhile, the Club's medical staff will continue to assess the fitness of Roman Pavlyuchenko after his ankle injury.

[SpursOnTheRise]

Well that was a load of crap

“I’m not happy, although it is difficult to explain what has happened, very complicated.


Correct me if im wrong but didnt i have a massive rant about him and his "its difficult to explain" line, i have been proven right once again. Cheers Juande!