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Someone (a delegate) with an old email (from before the time of "Undisclosed Recipients") send out a bulk email to all of the delegates. This lists includes the emails of all delegates and club contacts. Send out a call for a group get together and see who shows up.
Many of the lower divisions have an invested interest in this also, because it will affect the standard of their "social" competitions. If Olympic Div 4 are pissed off now that Reserves players were playing in their division this year, they may as well go and sign up for social indoor soccer on a Friday at Findon RIGHT NOW. Because those players are coming your way on a PERMANENT basis as of next year if this goes ahead.
last year i posted that sawsa was going backwards and everybody bit my head off, this just goes to show that they are changing things to make it easier for certain ppl, as i said before the amatuer league is looking at starting a womans comp next year , so what are they gona change in season 2010 , the teams in div 1 have been winning to make it in the prem league now they are not going to be promoted, well done wendy why change something that is not broken or is it that you know from oct 30th you lose your power
Ohhhh frick sake!!!!! i feel SOOOOO sorry for para hills, u guys got screwed over BIG TIME, uz got a few good wins under ur belt this year, for sure with ur trip to N.Z (which is showing how serious u guys are) uz wulda done pretty aight next year.
This whole thing is complete BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there is no way they can get ridda ressies cos u need the reserves to keep the prems goin! (feeding/developing upcoming players), omg are they on hardcore drugs!!!!! So what is going to happen to the rest of the reserves players???? we cant get put into a lower div cos then there will be 9 bloody reserve squads, with 100 billion players pushing there way in, which wont go down well with lower league clubs or players (eg metro and cumby lower div teams).
Leppskiii wrote:Parahills are getting screwed!
8 teams woulda been ok..wtf do we need a bye round for?
Agreed. Why don't SAWSA incorporate an even number of teams so there ISN"T a bye round?
Also, Para Hills did get screwed around. For the last game of the season, they went out there playing for fun - not really fussed about the result. Little did the team OR coach know that this game would decide whether or not they stayed in the Premier League next year. Campbelltown won 1-0 meaning Para Hills finished in the bottom 2 because of goal difference. Why drop Para Hills when Campbelltown are clearly of similar standard? The league could have 8 teams and therefore NO byes, but no SAWSA want to make things difficult and complicated by dropping the number of teams down to 7.
Where is the common sense in this decision? Why were no clubs informed? Where is the communication from SAWSA, a.k.a. WC to these teams?
This decision is 100% absurd and I really hope SAWSA (WC or Sturt for that matter) can redeem themselves.
Leppskiii wrote:Parahills are getting screwed!
8 teams woulda been ok..wtf do we need a bye round for?
I totally agree with you Lepps......we don't need a bye round.....that being said I have heard talks of a 10 team league.......just like NSW........that would be ideal......hopefully all our emails......calls......get SAWSA to change this.......before it's too late.....as you say......both Knights and Toros have been screwed over.......all are not happy with this decision......and we won't go down without a fight......don't you worry about that......
and where are they expecting over 130 reserves players to go next year (9 teams with 15 players per squad) - like others have said, this will completely change the "lower" divisions....
calin wrote:JUST CONFIRMED - PARA HILLS ARE STAYING IN PREMIER LEAGUE!
They miscalculated (or to those words) and found it unjust to drop a team just cos of goal difference.
unfortunately reserves teams are still being dropped. one step at a time
OMG YES FINALLY!!!! Thank god someone saw sense!! This is great news for Para Hills.....although I still think Toros got screwed over.......bring them back in with another team.......winners of Div 1......I think it was Flinders Uni.....if not I apologize.....now let's see what can be done about the reserves.....
calin wrote:JUST CONFIRMED - PARA HILLS ARE STAYING IN PREMIER LEAGUE!
They miscalculated (or to those words) and found it unjust to drop a team just cos of goal difference.
unfortunately reserves teams are still being dropped. one step at a time
That goal difference could have been very small too if Campbelltown had agreed to play their catch-up game vs Cumby. Cumby were not happy that Campbelltown didnt want to play them, even more so when no forfeit was given - just a no point unplayed game...
calin wrote:JUST CONFIRMED - PARA HILLS ARE STAYING IN PREMIER LEAGUE!
They miscalculated (or to those words) and found it unjust to drop a team just cos of goal difference.
unfortunately reserves teams are still being dropped. one step at a time
That goal difference could have been very small too if Campbelltown had agreed to play their catch-up game vs Cumby. Cumby were not happy that Campbelltown didnt want to play them, even more so when no forfeit was given - just a no point unplayed game...
Those were our thoughts exactly......who knows what would have happened......they may have lost by enough for us to have been higher on the ladder......this is just Campbelltown trying to make sure they stayed in it......not good sportsmanship at all....
calin wrote:JUST CONFIRMED - PARA HILLS ARE STAYING IN PREMIER LEAGUE!
They miscalculated (or to those words) and found it unjust to drop a team just cos of goal difference.
unfortunately reserves teams are still being dropped. one step at a time
That goal difference could have been very small too if Campbelltown had agreed to play their catch-up game vs Cumby. Cumby were not happy that Campbelltown didnt want to play them, even more so when no forfeit was given - just a no point unplayed game...
That's a disgrace. If Campbelltown didn't want to play Cumberland, they should have forfeited, end of story.
calin wrote:JUST CONFIRMED - PARA HILLS ARE STAYING IN PREMIER LEAGUE!
They miscalculated (or to those words) and found it unjust to drop a team just cos of goal difference.
unfortunately reserves teams are still being dropped. one step at a time
That goal difference could have been very small too if Campbelltown had agreed to play their catch-up game vs Cumby. Cumby were not happy that Campbelltown didnt want to play them, even more so when no forfeit was given - just a no point unplayed game...
That's a disgrace. If Campbelltown didn't want to play Cumberland, they should have forfeited, end of story.
My thoughts exactly.......and again another example of SAWSA stuffing up....how can they just let a team not play a game......either it's played or forfeited......none of this picking which games they can play....
I think the reason they used for allowing the game not to be played was that it made no difference to the outcome of the competition - however, until the about turn to let PH stay in Prems it obviously could have made a BIG difference!
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pvfc wrote:I think the reason they used for allowing the game not to be played was that it made no difference to the outcome of the competition - however, until the about turn to let PH stay in Prems it obviously did make a BIG difference!
That to me is not a good enough reason to have a game not played.......it should have been forfeited then by the team that couldn't make the game.......really this is ridiculous......and as you say.......made a massive difference for Knights.......but clearly SAWSA just don't care.......they were willing to have that game not be played.......even though it would make a difference to their plans for relegation.....I really can't understand what it is they do........their organisation this year has been appalling.....and this relegation was just the icing on the cake.......bring on the FFSA!! Hopefully they can repair what SAWSA has done their best to break........please bring back the reserve league!!
Hahaha Adelaide Pie I was referring to the decision from SAWSA being a crock of sh.it, not ur comments
Thank god Para will still be in it and thank god for no byes!!! All they do is cause disruption
With no ressies division does that mean Prems teams can nominate their ressies teams into a Div 2 league?
So therefore ud have Prems, Div 2 and then ur underage teams? Having each clubs second team in Div 2 wouldnt really change a thing except that i assume they would play at different grounds to the Prems team which would make it difficult for those players who this year played ressies and then sat on the bench for their respective Premier League teams. If they could organise it where it would basically be the same then it wouldnt really be any different to this year
Im guessing Toros and all the others who arent in prems would be in div 1
thats stupid, how many girls are now going to be looking for teams to play in cuz there is no ressies, its not like u can drop them to div 1 cuz where do the div 1 teams go.....if they arent careful ppl will turn their back on the game because it will get to complicated and become too hard, and what about the poor girls who will have to get told they dont have a team, imo its just goin to make a bigger gap between div 1 and prems, i know a fair few of the ressies teams this year had a young squad i wouldnt want to be the ones telling the girls there is no league for them to play in and parahills was developing and starting to become quite a strong team and toros im sure would keep improving as they have time to develop into a strong team also....i say keep it the same and add a team so there is no byes
"You can't just beat a team, you have to leave a lasting impression in their minds so they never want to see you again"
pvfc wrote:I think the reason they used for allowing the game not to be played was that it made no difference to the outcome of the competition - however, until the about turn to let PH stay in Prems it obviously did make a BIG difference!
That to me is not a good enough reason to have a game not played.......it should have been forfeited then by the team that couldn't make the game.......really this is ridiculous......and as you say.......made a massive difference for Knights.......but clearly SAWSA just don't care.......they were willing to have that game not be played.......even though it would make a difference to their plans for relegation.....I really can't understand what it is they do........their organisation this year has been appalling.....and this relegation was just the icing on the cake.......bring on the FFSA!! Hopefully they can repair what SAWSA has done their best to break........please bring back the reserve league!!
Just want to clarify in regards to the c-town vs cumberland game, us girls at c-town knew nothing of what what was going on with that, we only got told yesterday that the game wasnt going ahead, so we originally assumed we were still playing it, but obviously not.
In reality yesterday NOBODY knew that sawsa was gonna make RANDOM "lets drop a big bomb" descisions about that league. So we just assumed it ends like it does every year.
And they better bring back a reserves division cos thats a big mistake tanking the whole thing.
toros got screwed and so did the div 1 teams that fought hard all year to gain promotion, in the past wendy told all clubs that they have 2 years in prems and will not get relegated, so why now are we changing the rules
Well the memo is out.
Reserves is axed - apparently the feedback from clubs questioned the relevance of reserves???!!!! Unbelievable!
Will see existing reserves teams split between div2 and div3 based on their final 2008 reserves div position - try selling that to a reserves team, "You improved a lot in 2008, so you are being moved from reserves to div3" (no disrespect intended to teams in div3 in 2008, but you get my point?)
Looks like we will need 12 team divs for div 2-4, or will need a div5 just to fit everyone in, (but div5 is not mentioned in the memo).
pvfc wrote:I think the reason they used for allowing the game not to be played was that it made no difference to the outcome of the competition - however, until the about turn to let PH stay in Prems it obviously did make a BIG difference!
That to me is not a good enough reason to have a game not played.......it should have been forfeited then by the team that couldn't make the game.......really this is ridiculous......and as you say.......made a massive difference for Knights.......but clearly SAWSA just don't care.......they were willing to have that game not be played.......even though it would make a difference to their plans for relegation.....I really can't understand what it is they do........their organisation this year has been appalling.....and this relegation was just the icing on the cake.......bring on the FFSA!! Hopefully they can repair what SAWSA has done their best to break........please bring back the reserve league!!
Just want to clarify in regards to the c-town vs cumberland game, us girls at c-town knew nothing of what what was going on with that, we only got told yesterday that the game wasnt going ahead, so we originally assumed we were still playing it, but obviously not.
In reality yesterday NOBODY knew that sawsa was gonna make RANDOM "lets drop a big bomb" descisions about that league. So we just assumed it ends like it does every year.
And they better bring back a reserves division cos thats a big mistake tanking the whole thing.
Congrats to para hills for staying up too.
I have to add that I have been informed that Campbelltown was called before the game on sunday to let them know they were being relegated.......now explain to me how that is fair with one team going in with all the info and the other kept in the dark....??? As previously stated......had Para Hills known about the relegation things would have been done differently with regards to starting XI.......clearly bad organisation by WC and SAWSA......unfortunately this comes as no surprise......
pvfc wrote:Well the memo is out.
Reserves is axed - apparently the feedback from clubs questioned the relevance of reserves???!!!! Unbelievable!
Will see existing reserves teams split between div2 and div3 based on their final 2008 reserves div position - try selling that to a reserves team, "You improved a lot in 2008, so you are being moved from reserves to div3" (no disrespect intended to teams in div3 in 2008, but you get my point?)
Looks like we will need 12 team divs for div 2-4, or will need a div5 just to fit everyone in, (but div5 is not mentioned in the memo).
Interesting times ahead.......
I would love to know which clubs submitted that......how can they question the relevance......I cannot see how this is going to work for next season......prem teams need a back up reserve.........now as stated no prem team can submit a div 1 team........so if any prem team is in the situation where they need to bring up players they will be promoting them from the div 2 or even div 3 side...?!?!? How can that be possible......totally different standard between prems and div 1 let alone div 2/3.........this is absolutely absurd.......we cannot expect that all those in reserves will simply drop 2 divisions.......surely we will be losing a LOT of players......reserve teams also facilitate younger girls who aren't quite ready for the prem level.......surely there is something we can do...???
Division 2 sides are getting screwed over here, especially those who play for social reasons and have become attached to their team! This division is mainly a social division with the opportunity to be really competitive as well. Metro division 2 have won 2 championships in '06-07 and were runners up in the league and cup in '08. This news is very upsetting. How far will Metro div 2 get dropped if their reserves takes over?
What does this mean will happen to the cup competition?
If the current division 2 sides are forced to play against ex-reserves sides in the cup next year that would not be fair.
I would expect the cup to be div 1 vs 2 (ex-reserves) and div 3 (ex-div 2) vs 4
A lot of clubs and teams are being affected negatively here.
gubs wrote:u would think that their div 2 team will be dropped to div 3 and their ressies will be a part of the div 2 side
But how unnecessary does this seem to you.....surely would be easier to just keep the reserve league and not upset everyone as they have done.......would be the most common sense thing to do.....and the least work....
sawsa aint big on common sense and logic...its been fairly evident over the time that they would struggle to organise a chook raffle let alone a whole association
Red Tiger im not agreeing with what they have done, just trying to make sense of it all really. God knows why they would change things. People are pissed off with the way things are run as it is, this only shits them more
