yes i agree. rafa just doesn't know how to buy world class players + we play shit football. he has got to go imoBali Cowman wrote:we're brilliant at avoiding world class players
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totsreds08 wrote:yes i agree. rafa just doesn't know how to buy world class players + we play cabernet football. he has got to go imoBali Cowman wrote:we're brilliant at avoiding world class players
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I've still go faith in the gaffer..................................for now
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lets be honest, lately i have said we are playing shit and i have been bagging rafa.chelsea91 wrote:totsreds08 wrote:yes i agree. rafa just doesn't know how to buy world class players + we play cabernet football. he has got to go imoBali Cowman wrote:we're brilliant at avoiding world class players
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yep on loan which is ok i guesspires7 wrote:So Voronin is off to Berlin 4 a year
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Sale of Liverpool likely to be sooner rather than later
The Arab invasion of the Barclays Premier League seems certain to continue, with Liverpool's American owners weakening in their resistance to selling the club to Sheikh Mohammed, the ruler of Dubai. Tom Hicks vetoed an attempted sale by George Gillett Jr, his co-chairman at Anfield, this year, but the American tycoons are expected to return to the negotiating table as an unforgiving financial climate takes a toll on their ambitions for the club.
Hicks maintains that he will not sell Liverpool, but the Texan is known to be troubled by the financial storm that has engulfed him and Gillett in the past 12 months. Last week, they blamed the credit crunch for the postponement of building work on a proposed 60,000-capacity stadium in Stanley Park and, with the Premier League stakes raised further by the Abu Dhabi royal family's imminent takeover at Manchester City, Hicks and Gillett are close to conceding that they do not have the resources to fulfil the ambitions they had when they bought Liverpool in February 2007.
There remains a £400 million-plus offer on the table from Sheikh Mohammed, who is leading the bid that was being driven by Dubai International Capital, the private-equity investment arm of the Dubai Government, when Hicks blocked Gillett's attempted sale this year. Hicks is known to be more open to selling Liverpool, but the two sides remain some way apart in their valuation of the club.
Hicks and Gillett are aware that the £350 million refinancing deal they secured through the Royal Bank of Scotland and Wachovia a little more than seven months ago is up for renewal on January 25 next year and that the banks are not certain to grant them the option of a six-month extension. They must decide by January whether to try to prop up their regime for a further six months, or to sell.
The takeover of City could have a knock-on effect, with Liverpool facing greater competition to qualify for next season's Champions League. The club have annual interest payments of £30 million, which last season's revenue of about £20 million from European competition went a long way towards clearing.
Increased competition from an opponents with seemingly unlimited financial resources is likely to heighten the anxiety of Liverpool's owners, who kept a tight hold of the purse strings this summer in the belief that Rafael Benítez's squad was good enough to compete for the Premier League title and at very least to secure the top-four finish that would lead to next season's Champions League. Liverpool's net spend this summer was approximately £18 million, but Benítez remains aggrieved that the board vetoed an £18 million deal to sign Gareth Barry from Aston Villa.
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Sale of Liverpool likely to be sooner rather than later
The Arab invasion of the Barclays Premier League seems certain to continue, with Liverpool's American owners weakening in their resistance to selling the club to Sheikh Mohammed, the ruler of Dubai. Tom Hicks vetoed an attempted sale by George Gillett Jr, his co-chairman at Anfield, this year, but the American tycoons are expected to return to the negotiating table as an unforgiving financial climate takes a toll on their ambitions for the club.
Hicks maintains that he will not sell Liverpool, but the Texan is known to be troubled by the financial storm that has engulfed him and Gillett in the past 12 months. Last week, they blamed the credit crunch for the postponement of building work on a proposed 60,000-capacity stadium in Stanley Park and, with the Premier League stakes raised further by the Abu Dhabi royal family's imminent takeover at Manchester City, Hicks and Gillett are close to conceding that they do not have the resources to fulfil the ambitions they had when they bought Liverpool in February 2007.
There remains a £400 million-plus offer on the table from Sheikh Mohammed, who is leading the bid that was being driven by Dubai International Capital, the private-equity investment arm of the Dubai Government, when Hicks blocked Gillett's attempted sale this year. Hicks is known to be more open to selling Liverpool, but the two sides remain some way apart in their valuation of the club.
Hicks and Gillett are aware that the £350 million refinancing deal they secured through the Royal Bank of Scotland and Wachovia a little more than seven months ago is up for renewal on January 25 next year and that the banks are not certain to grant them the option of a six-month extension. They must decide by January whether to try to prop up their regime for a further six months, or to sell.
The takeover of City could have a knock-on effect, with Liverpool facing greater competition to qualify for next season's Champions League. The club have annual interest payments of £30 million, which last season's revenue of about £20 million from European competition went a long way towards clearing.
Increased competition from an opponents with seemingly unlimited financial resources is likely to heighten the anxiety of Liverpool's owners, who kept a tight hold of the purse strings this summer in the belief that Rafael Benítez's squad was good enough to compete for the Premier League title and at very least to secure the top-four finish that would lead to next season's Champions League. Liverpool's net spend this summer was approximately £18 million, but Benítez remains aggrieved that the board vetoed an £18 million deal to sign Gareth Barry from Aston Villa.
Also...BTW....Sheikh Mohammed - Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates, seventh richest man in the world
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we should buy man city !
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I would have thought no football fan would want thier club to sell thier soul and become a plaything for a gazillionaire with no thought for the fans......i was wrong!
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same, thats why i asked!ramosrules wrote:I would have thought no football fan would want thier club to sell thier soul and become a plaything for a gazillionaire with no thought for the fans......i was wrong!
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I don't think a lot of the fans have even considered this..I think most are just ecstatic at getting rid of the yanks. Plus you don't know for sure what DIC would be like. So it could go either way really.IpswichTown1878 wrote:same, thats why i asked!ramosrules wrote:I would have thought no football fan would want thier club to sell thier soul and become a plaything for a gazillionaire with no thought for the fans......i was wrong!
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new $350 million stadium which seats 60,000 with the ability of further extensions.stadiums with this capacitity brings in i think for man utd $20M a year extra revenue,IpswichTown1878 wrote:Do you honestly want a stupidly rich owner? i mean Man City rich!
and the ability to bargain foor berbatov's, villa's, rohbinho's etc..
ummm. yes..football is changing and need to move with the times..
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im all for football moving forward into the future, but not in this direction. its just wrong.
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well it is out of our hands, i don't agree with it but i do not want to see my club fall further behind man utd and chelsea.. we have fought hard this long to stay in touch and the gap is purely coming down to $$$..
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True, if there was another way to close the gap on Utd and Chelsea, I'd prefer we took it..but if this is the only way then so be it..alm01 wrote:well it is out of our hands, i don't agree with it but i do not want to see my club fall further behind man utd and chelsea.. we have fought hard this long to stay in touch and the gap is purely coming down to $$$..
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i bet it hurts saying that ayGerrard_of_SA wrote:True, if there was another way to close the gap on Utd and Chelsea, I'd prefer we took it..but if this is the only way then so be it..alm01 wrote:well it is out of our hands, i don't agree with it but i do not want to see my club fall further behind man utd and chelsea.. we have fought hard this long to stay in touch and the gap is purely coming down to $$$..
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Too right it does..gooders wrote:i bet it hurts saying that ayGerrard_of_SA wrote:True, if there was another way to close the gap on Utd and Chelsea, I'd prefer we took it..but if this is the only way then so be it..alm01 wrote:well it is out of our hands, i don't agree with it but i do not want to see my club fall further behind man utd and chelsea.. we have fought hard this long to stay in touch and the gap is purely coming down to $$$..
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no it doesn't...when it wasn't about $$ we were the hunted..now it comes down to dollars it is about a stadium, and that extra cash injection..man utd moved forward for a decade with extra capacity and a one of the best managers in the world and foreign investors..chelsea found a billionare to buy them championships and champion league final apperance.while liverpool still took out champions league final and a second appearance that has come in three years plus a semi final appearance..the league now comes down to $$ and a team full of big dollar players from the starting 11 to another half a team of legends on the bench that perform for over 50 games a year, which is what cash gets you..after watching the english league from th late 70's to today i have seen the dynasties of some clubs...i am patient and belived last year we should have taken the DIC approach and would be back on track..trust me i got use to liverpools's dominance in the past and took it for granted and glad to see our strongest rivals have theirs as it has made football more enjoyable to watch and made me more hungry and passionate about liverpool again..
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$$ is the way to get somewhere these days. believe me i'd hate to see so called liverpool supporters claiming they love the club but not know the result of the match that was previously played as money attracts too many bandwagoners but that is what football is becoming. it pisses me off . i'd hate to see players that have come through the lower ranks of the club be benched for somebody that was bought for 80 million pounds and wouldn't give 2 shits if the club didn't win everything because then he could just leave. football in england is becoming a joke. i'm one for the 6:5 rule (if that is the right rule)IpswichTown1878 wrote:same, thats why i asked!ramosrules wrote:I would have thought no football fan would want thier club to sell thier soul and become a plaything for a gazillionaire with no thought for the fans......i was wrong!
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You already have thattotsreds08 wrote:$$ is the way to get somewhere these days. believe me i'd hate to see so called liverpool supporters claiming they love the club but not know the result of the match that was previously played as money attracts too many bandwagoners but that is what football is becoming. it pisses me off . i'd hate to see players that have come through the lower ranks of the club be benched for somebody that was bought for 80 million pounds and wouldn't give 2 shits if the club didn't win everything because then he could just leave. football in england is becoming a joke. i'm one for the 6:5 rule (if that is the right rule)IpswichTown1878 wrote:same, thats why i asked!ramosrules wrote:I would have thought no football fan would want thier club to sell thier soul and become a plaything for a gazillionaire with no thought for the fans......i was wrong!
Liverpool unlike Man City are already a big club with titles and bandwagoners
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lol yes but i have barely run into many people that say they love liverpool but can't name anybody but torres or gerrard. i mean bandwagoners such as chelsea where half so called supporters didn't know they existed before they won their first leagueIl Duce wrote:You already have that
Liverpool unlike Man City are already a big club with titles and bandwagoners
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i bet there will be alot of people who will end up only watching the championship cause atleast that is still english.
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How long is Torres out for??
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will be back for Marseille gameSpursOnTheRise wrote:How long is Torres out for??
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whenz that, im guessing he wont be playing in the next epl game?
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Nope, he'll be out for the Utd game. Gerrard may be back, they're not sure..Keane back to his normal position then??SpursOnTheRise wrote:whenz that, im guessing he wont be playing in the next epl game?