kick the ball out when a player goes down injured?

[TM87]

The custom has come in the last few years that to be a good sport when the opposition's, or your own player is down injured, you should kick the ball out so they can get assistance. The ref does occasionally blow the whistle if there is a serious situation for medical attendance to a downed player but there is no hard and fast rule.

So, the ball is played out at the discretion of an individual player for an unclear reason. On the restart sometimes the ball is played back in from the sideline to the opposition to resume play or there is a drop ball from the referee but one player acquiesces for the same result. Yet, none of this is officially covered by official FIFA rules. Should it be?

I say play on, cause players can manipulate this so-called "good will".

[Mr X]

Its general sportsmanship and will never be written into a rule book,

Something happen to yours boys this season K-man?

[TM87]

Its general sportsmanship and will never be written into a rule book,

Something happen to yours boys this season K-man?

No just want to know what people think in general? But i have experienced it in the past where people take advantage of it.

[Total 90]

In Federation we were told to play on until the ref tells you to play it out no whistle no sportsmanship and that goes under doing what the ref says. he is the judge of manipulation.

[TheWingBack]

I think it firstly depends on what level you are playing at, i.e. C team vs A team as that will be an influencing factor, as well as where the ball is when the player goes down. On the weekend my team had possession of the ball on the wing with one of the opposition players going down so we put it out. We weren't in an attacking position, only possession, and it was the right thing to do. However during another occurrence we were in an attacking position and an opposition player went down and our 2 central midfielders looked at each other and didn't know what to do while the coach was yelling play the whistle. The game could have easily been played on, without affecting the down player, but instead the ball went out and the team lost the potential to create a scoring opportunity.

For me the bottom line is simple, if you're playing competitively to win, you either put the ball out if it will not disadvantage your team, with the expectation the opposition will return it (which usually happens) otherwise if you're in an attacking move play to the whistle and leave it to the discretion of the referee. However is your opposition puts the ball out for one of your players I think it is only sporting and right to give it back to them (via their GK ).

I also think that due to the subjective nature of this type of action that FIFA shouldn't and probably can't put it into the rules, beyond the current rules where the ref can stop play for a drop-ball if a player is severely hurt or in danger.

[De Voyeur]

I think it firstly depends on what level you are playing at, i.e. C team vs A team as that will be an influencing factor, as well as where the ball is when the player goes down. On the weekend my team had possession of the ball on the wing with one of the opposition players going down so we put it out. We weren't in an attacking position, only possession, and it was the right thing to do. However during another occurrence we were in an attacking position and an opposition player went down and our 2 central midfielders looked at each other and didn't know what to do while the coach was yelling play the whistle. The game could have easily been played on, without affecting the down player, but instead the ball went out and the team lost the potential to create a scoring opportunity.

For me the bottom line is simple, if you're playing competitively to win, you either put the ball out if it will not disadvantage your team, with the expectation the opposition will return it (which usually happens) otherwise if you're in an attacking move play to the whistle and leave it to the discretion of the referee. However is your opposition puts the ball out for one of your players I think it is only sporting and right to give it back to them (via their GK ).

I also think that due to the subjective nature of this type of action that FIFA shouldn't and probably can't put it into the rules, beyond the current rules where the ref can stop play for a drop-ball if a player is severely hurt or in danger.

I agree with J5 on this one. I think it is crazy to kick the ball out if you are in a potential goal scoring position. If you aren't; kick it out and expect to get it back.

[Fork Sake]

Deja Vu I swear I read this thread somewhere else before.....

[Cerveza]

worse still when a player of the other team goes down when they have the ball and they continue to attack loose it then you attack while they are yelling kick it out . convenient

[MONTGOMERY SPLIFT]

kman i agree with you,this is something that has crept into the game over the last decade and now every time a player goes down his team mates expect you to put the ball out.if someone is seriously hurt then there is generally someone on the pitch who is aware of the fact and brings it to the attention of the ref or other players.i have instructed my players/team mates to play on unless they know someone is seriously hurt,and they should expect the same from the opposition. stop being soft and get on with it.

[Missing Post Count]

Its general sportsmanship and will never be written into a rule book,

Something happen to yours boys this season K-man?

No just want to know what people think in general? But i have experienced it in the past where people take advantage of it.

The decision should be left to the referee (ie. play the whistle) and if he deems to stop the play it should be restarted with a good old fasioned drop ball. As boots said: stop being soft and get on with it.

[Missing Post Count]

Deja Vu I swear I read this thread somewhere else before.....

It was discussed somewhere not so long ago

[Missing Post Count]

Okay I've just seen the thread in the world football forum. The was another topic on this a couple of months ago too.

[blue moon]

i believe there is a directive for the referee to make the decision to stop play, otherwise play on.

[oncewewereworiers]

i think we should kick the ball at the player that goes down. if he gets up and want to punch on, then he's faking. if he keeps lying there thrahing in pain, my guess would be he is serious.

[De Voyeur]

i think we should kick the ball at the player that goes down. if he gets up and want to punch on, then he's faking. if he keeps lying there thrahing in pain, my guess would be he is serious.

I like it, I love it.

[Between the Sticks]

i think we should kick the ball at the player that goes down. if he gets up and want to punch on, then he's faking. if he keeps lying there thrahing in pain, my guess would be he is serious.

Hey big fella thats ok for you to say....i wouldnt kick the ball at you regardless of whether you were faking or not you gonna get up sooner or later

[oncewewereworiers]

i think we should kick the ball at the player that goes down. if he gets up and want to punch on, then he's faking. if he keeps lying there thrahing in pain, my guess would be he is serious.

Hey big fella thats ok for you to say....i wouldnt kick the ball at you regardless of whether you were faking or not you gonna get up sooner or later

i might get up, but then i gotta catch you. that starts a hole new problem then

[sparts]

i always put the ball out if a player is down injured, regardless of which team they are on. at the end of the day if you do it first it shows that you would like the sporting behaviour to be returned. on the other hand i have played in games where opposition team so have not put the ball out so in return we didnt put it out for their injured player. it works both ways

[limozeen]

Play on I say.

It's the only way to get rid of play acting and carry on. Play the whistle and if the ref thinks it's bad enough let him stop the game.

And as I say that will stop people pretending to be hurt to break up the flow of the game.

[Kitchimo]

The ref at the AU v Pohang game dealt with it quite sensibly. I can only remember him stopping play once, for the GK 'injury' in the first half.

[swannsong]

link to Extreme Fair Play Dutch Style

[Rob Lozza]

Good one, swannie!
As stated in the comments, a great display of sportsmanship.

[Wolfman08]

I used to advise the Lads to kick it out, I would rather be known as a fair team rather than animals.

But, I have changed my thoughts throughout the season. Watching Spirit 2007 and Gawler especially, I realised that nice guys finish last.

We have had many situations where they attack, and then when our defence get the ball, they shout for us to kick out. It is amazing how many opposition players go down (or stay down) on one of our quick breaks.

My opinion; PLAY THE WHISTLE. That is the basics of the game

[robinfriday10]

tommy?????

[sacred_june (GrooveChild)]

As a player, if i go down injured (and i dont stay down unless im really knocked hard, so no bullshitting on my part) i expect the team to kick the ball out if they are say, in possession of the ball but not in an attacking position. However, i wouldnt expect anybody from either side to kick the ball out during an attack.

[swannsong]

tommy?????

Yeah, wasn't too good ?

[Wolfman08]

It is just upsetting when the lads work so hard, and the forward gets past the last defender, just to be treated like a dog because their forward is rolling around the ground like he has been snipered. Here is a clue, it is their forward, and he has no impact on their defence at all.

If the ref blows the whistle, fair enough, but, in the above situation, the ref should card the opposition forward if he bounces up straight away.

[Missing Post Count]

My opinion; PLAY THE WHISTLE. That is the basics of the game

This is my thinking. Let the referee make a decision. As for Spirit 2007, they were playing Unley on the ground behind us when I was watching Usc Lion V Elizabeth Downs and a player was taken away by ambulance casing a delay of more than half an hour. Not sure which club the injured person belonged too.

[Wolfman08]

Spirit are gone now. They tried hard every week and never gave up, but just couldn't put it together.

[Missing Post Count]

Spirit are gone now. They tried hard every week and never gave up, but just couldn't put it together.

I remember Jay Walking saying they didn't turn up for their cup match against Ingle Farm in the round before last. I didn't know they disappeared but looking at the division five tables they are no longer there. When you see things like that you can understand why some people want people who try to form a new club to go and join an existing club.