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town crier wrote:2 very hard fought games, a good showing from everybody involved. cheers to iggies for the game.
ps. hawkesy, you were miles off, :D but well played tho, and cheers again.
I've been critical of Jets in the past but I must say after yesterday's game, they have changed their mindset. A great bunch of blokes in the B's, and I enjoyed the battle especially my goal. As for that offside, i still feel that I was played onside by the left back, he was moving away from goal and I was to it. With that momentum I looked well off when I recieved the ball but onside when it was kicked.

A good atmosphere for the A's game, with a few of our players taking some stick but nothing nasty there, well not what I heard anyway.

Crowd in the B's was a lot lower (obviously) but did like the positive comments given to me by the ladies sat at the end with blankets over them. All in all, disappointed with the results felt we deserved the win in the B's and the draw in the A's but not to be.

Oh and how many of your lot are on this forum, almost all of your players calling me by name :shock:

thought of something else, a very good club ref. Probably didn't play enough advantage for my liking but very good.
fair enough with the offside, i was in no position to judge, just winding you up. :D
look forward to the return leg. we'll all be on a first name basis by then mate! :D
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A's

Fulham 1 - Raptors 0

As said before with Raptors down to 10 men for the majority of the game and 9 for the last 10 mins you wouldn't have thought it.

Always going to happen when a team goes to 10 men that they push as they have nothing to lose.

Raptors did well but Fulham held out and clinched the vital 3 points and we move on.
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A TEAM - PONTIAN EAGLES 0 INGLE FARM 2
B TEAM - PONTIAN EAGLES 0 INGLE FARM 5
C TEAM - PONTIAN EAGLES ? INGLE FARM ? Heard Farm won ??
C2 TEAM - MAIWAND 5 FARM C2 2
D TEAM - INGLE FARM 0 PHE 2 (O/35's)
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Great result for Farm having gone down to 10 men after 20 minutes....

Big hello to Pontian's number 9 :lol:
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medallion wrote:Also, doesn't the ball have to be dead in order for the referee to book anyone??
Indirect free kick: awarded to the opposing team following "non-penal" fouls, certain technical infringements, or when play is stopped to caution/send-off an opponent without a specific foul having occurred. (Law 13).
Thanks for the clarification. I actually learnt something today.
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Fulham B's were unlucky, but credit to the Raptors keeper and defenders who blocked / cleared / saved a number of goalbound shots and repelled many attacks. They also took one of their few chances in the game well. Looking forward to the return game later in the season
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as a raptor defender.....
fair enough for the first send off but when the ball is in general play, which blade of grass does the ref decide the indirect freekick should be played from. Is it when our player starts talking, midsentence or when he finishes what he says and where he is standing is where the freekick is taken??????
So he decides to put it a couple of meters outside the six yard box.
Been playing for 28years, am not anything special but todays deciscion sometimes tells me its time to give up

By the way well done raptors boys, showed strength in diversity, great courage. and dont know bout you guys am bit tired right now.
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Bodø Glimt wrote:A's: Fulham 1 Isc Raptors 0
B's: Fulham 0 Isc Raptors 1
C's: Fulham 2 Isc Raptors 5

The first team game was quite an entertaining game. Ten minutes in the referee awarded Fulham an indirect free kick in the box although I have no idea what it was for. A Raptors player was booked in the incident. The free kick itself was cleverly taken. Usually in these situations it gets blasted into the wall and comes to nothing but Fulham played it across the box and effectively took the wall out of the equation and it was tucked away. A few seconds later Raptors had a second player booked, and the first player to be booked ran over to protest and he got his second yellow and was off. One thing that can be said about this referee is he doesn't take dissent. You wouldn't have known it was Raptors with the ten men as they had a great deal off the first half. Fulham played much better in the second half and either side could have added to the score line. Raptors were reduced to nine men with an incident which on it's own was a red card offence, but had the referee seen the kick out by a Fulham player a few seconds earlier it would have been 10v10. I have to give credit to the Raptors' linesman for the second half who did his best to keep his bench from taking their protests too far and getting them to sit down and be quiet.

The reserves was a fairly evened match as well. No real incidents of controversy.

I only saw the ten minutes of the first half and the entire second half of the C's game. At 0-3 it looked as though Rapters were coasting but Fulham pulled two back before two late Raptors' strikes made it safe.
Hey Bodo, I can understand how someone on the sidelines will not know as to why it was an indirect free kick. The reason being that no foul had been committed. The ball was actually in our goalkeepers posession, but one of our players was remonstrating with the referee about a foul that was committed a little beforehand. The referree then booked our player and awarded the indirect free kick in the box where our keeper was holding the ball for dissent, I did not know that a free kick could be awarded to the other team for this. Anyway, the same player continued his protest even harder after this was awarded and the referree then sent him off. I do not condone what our player did, but I am pretty sure that I have never seen an indirect free kick awarded in the box for a player committing dissent, if anyone else has and can shed some light on this, please let me know.

Anyway, we outplayed fulham for the best part of the game and could have scored a few goals to steal it. Fulham took a while to adjust to 10 men and made it easy for us to contain them in the first half by leaving four players in defence and not taking advantage of the extra numbers. I am not sure of this was the case, but it seems as though it was.
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players win games not the coach remember that.
Go coach another team then we will see if you anything.
Santos, what on Earth are you on about? I cant even understand what your writing, "why got a coach", "if you anything".. Are you taking the piss or are you really this stupid?
i think u may be the stupid one mate, its not that hard to understand what he is saying
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few seconds later Raptors had a second player booked, and the first player to be booked ran over to protest and he got his second yellow and was off.

This guy was lucky his team mates kept him at bay otherwise I would clearly say he would not be playing football again in a long time as his intentions were very very clear and the ref was his target. I'm not saying he had nothing to be angre about, but he is one lucky felly to go off when he did before he caused himself and his team a real problem!

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Gawler 1:2 Simba of Congo (Reserves 0:3)

Congo worth seeing for the double and triple somersaults made by players after each goal scored.
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Rob Lozza wrote:Gawler 1:2 Simba of Congo (Reserves 0:3)

Congo worth seeing for the double and triple somersaults made by players after each goal scored.
:D :D :D :D that's the way!!!!! :D :D :D :D

thats it i'm watchin congo next week!
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Rob Lozza wrote:Gawler 1:2 Simba of Congo (Reserves 0:3)

Congo worth seeing for the double and triple somersaults made by players after each goal scored.
:D :D :D :D that's the way!!!!! :D :D :D :D

thats it i'm watchin congo next week!
Is Congo represented at this years Olympics in gymnastics?? :?:
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town crier wrote:
Rob Lozza wrote:Gawler 1:2 Simba of Congo (Reserves 0:3)

Congo worth seeing for the double and triple somersaults made by players after each goal scored.
:D :D :D :D that's the way!!!!! :D :D :D :D

thats it i'm watchin congo next week!
Well the Simba of Congo B's have got Munno Para in the cup next week and whilst I am obviously hoping Para go through, I gotta say I am actually hoping that they get one and I see a triple. I have heard that sometimes blokes are flipping about that aren't even involved in the goal being scored. Fantastic.
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mavromooni wrote:which blade of grass does the ref decide the indirect freekick should be played from.
I presume it would be from the point from where the word that was considered offensive word was spoken but I think it's like splitting hairs.
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On Holiday wrote:Hey Bodø, I can understand how someone on the sidelines will not know as to why it was an indirect free kick. The reason being that no foul had been committed. The ball was actually in our goalkeepers posession, but one of our players was remonstrating with the referee about a foul that was committed a little beforehand. The referree then booked our player and awarded the indirect free kick in the box where our keeper was holding the ball for dissent, I did not know that a free kick could be awarded to the other team for this. Anyway, the same player continued his protest even harder after this was awarded and the referree then sent him off. I do not condone what our player did, but I am pretty sure that I have never seen an indirect free kick awarded in the box for a player committing dissent, if anyone else has and can shed some light on this, please let me know.

Anyway, we outplayed fulham for the best part of the game and could have scored a few goals to steal it. Fulham took a while to adjust to 10 men and made it easy for us to contain them in the first half by leaving four players in defence and not taking advantage of the extra numbers. I am not sure of this was the case, but it seems as though it was.
As stated above I know they can award a indirect free kick when play is stopped to caution/send-off an opponent without a specific foul having occurred but I don't think I've ever seen an instance like sunday's before. I was with redmum and bomber at the time and we came to the conclusion that it must have been given for dissent, but being where we were couldn't actually hear if anything was said. You definatley outplayed Fulham for the first half after that.
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still, surely he can do what every other referee does, and book the player for dissent (either straight away or when the ball goes out of play) then continue on with the game.

what he did was essentially kill off the game in the first 5 minutes. by red carding a player and giving a ridiculous free kick which DIRECTLY RESULTED IN A GOAL when we had possession of the ball.

honestly, Fulham have got to consider themselves lucky to come away with the win, considering the fact that Raptors were down a man for 90% of the game, and down 2 men for the last 10 minutes.

on top of that, with maybe 15 mins to go a raptors player was clearly fouled a meter INSIDE to box and the freekick was awarded outside the box rather than a penalty. the Raptors player had the ball in his possession with his back to the goal. he was then tackled from behind, and his feet were still inside the box after the tackle, so how could he have possibly fallen forward and still be inside the box if he wasnt in the box when the tackle was committed??!!

i had a very fair view of the incident, and the referree was in a better position than me. unbelievable how much he affected the result of this game.

not saying he was cheating, because i know most at fulham think he's a tosser too, but he has got to be, without doubt, the single biggest F.UCKHEAD going around!
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sacred_june (GrooveChild) wrote:still, surely he can do what every other referee does, and book the player for dissent (either straight away or when the ball goes out of play) then continue on with the game.
I think he booked the player straight away as you suggested, but he has to stop play to do it. Also a techncality, but a referee also must blow the whistle to restart play after a player is booked.

The second red card... had the referee seen the kick out by the Fulham players prior to the incident he surely would have sent off that player and the one he did penalize couldn't have taken place. Incidents aside, Raptors did deserve to get something out of that game, just as Fulham did in the reserves.

For all intents and purposes players need to rectify their own dissent before worrying about what referees a doing.
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Bodø Glimt wrote:
I think he booked the player straight away as you suggested, but he has to stop play to do it. Also a techncality, but a referee also must blow the whistle to restart play after a player is booked.

For all intents and purposes players need to rectify their own dissent before worrying about what referees a doing.
agree that players must be more aware of the result of their dissent. players with experience especially should know this, but the ref could have thought of a better way to restart play than an indirect free kick to the team who didnt have the ball inside the penalty area.

what i'm trying to say though is that SURELY sending a player off 10 minutes into the game for dissent is punishment enough for any team! there was no need to award a simple goal scoring opportunity to fulham.

that referee is a total CLOWN :clown: and i wish the saasl were in a position to punish him but as we all know, with the referee shortage, the SAASL position will bascically be "beggers cant be choosers"
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A's Brahma 3 El Salvo's 1
B's Brahma 2 El Salvo's 1
C's Brahma 3 A Villa 1
35's Grove 3 Celts 2

Once again Brahma make a game of it! if thats the same el salvo's team that copped 8+ goal hammerings I'll eat my hat. They were a decent side, although we had 5 1st team players out, they still would have been a handfull.
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TheBucket wrote:
town crier wrote:
Rob Lozza wrote:Gawler 1:2 Simba of Congo (Reserves 0:3)

Congo worth seeing for the double and triple somersaults made by players after each goal scored.
:D :D :D :D that's the way!!!!! :D :D :D :D

thats it i'm watchin congo next week!
Well the Simba of Congo B's have got Munno Para in the cup next week and whilst I am obviously hoping Para go through, I gotta say I am actually hoping that they get one and I see a triple. I have heard that sometimes blokes are flipping about that aren't even involved in the goal being scored. Fantastic.
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I've been critical of Jets in the past but I must say after yesterday's game, they have changed their mindset. A great bunch of blokes in the B's, and I enjoyed the battle especially my goal. As for that offside, i still feel that I was played onside by the left back, he was moving away from goal and I was to it. With that momentum I looked well off when I recieved the ball but onside when it was kicked.

A good atmosphere for the A's game, with a few of our players taking some stick but nothing nasty there, well not what I heard anyway.

Crowd in the B's was a lot lower (obviously) but did like the positive comments given to me by the ladies sat at the end with blankets over them. All in all, disappointed with the results felt we deserved the win in the B's and the draw in the A's but not to be.

Oh and how many of your lot are on this forum, almost all of your players calling me by name :shock:

thought of something else, a very good club ref. Probably didn't play enough advantage for my liking but very good.[/quote]

Well put Hawkesy, i thought both games were both quite even and results could have gone either way but i'd like to think that we deserved the win in the A's. Was good to catch up with Mickey after the game for a drink and also Adrian who stayed behind :wink: . In saying that it really was a pleasure to play a good game and when it's all over and done with shake hands and have a drink with the opposistion. Can't see Iggies going down as there's too much right( :idea: Wanderer's take note) about the club and the way they carry themselves for them not to stay up. See you for the last game of the season.
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sacred_june (GrooveChild) wrote:
Bodø Glimt wrote:
I think he booked the player straight away as you suggested, but he has to stop play to do it. Also a techncality, but a referee also must blow the whistle to restart play after a player is booked.

For all intents and purposes players need to rectify their own dissent before worrying about what referees a doing.
what i'm trying to say though is that SURELY sending a player off 10 minutes into the game for dissent is punishment enough for any team! there was no need to award a simple goal scoring opportunity to fulham.
But if he has to stop and start the play to do it (which clearly he does) he has to award the free kick against the offending player, irrespective of where on the park he is.
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IDFK where the offence is committed, irrespective of where the ball is. So the ball could be in the opponents penalty area and your gk committed the offence then it would be an IDFK in your own box and a yellow card to the gk .
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Knights v Bosna

Reserves 0-3
First Team 8-2

Didn't see much of the reserve game so can't comment

I'm pretty sure Bosna had players out, as they were absolutely destroyed - whilst we scored 8, we also missed a penalty (goalkeeper took it) and several one on ones

After all the negative stuff about Bosna, their supporters were well behaved and despite the usual niggle their players were as well

Knights look more settled and with a week off this week, should have a few more players back soon
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Hawkesy wrote:IDFK where the offence is committed, irrespective of where the ball is. So the ball could be in the opponents penalty area and your gk committed the offence then it would be an IDFK in your own box and a yellow card to the gk .
fair enough. but he was right next to the referree (who was standing in near the half way line) when he got the booking for dissent, then the ref ran into the penalty area and gave the IDFK there!
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Well Done to Spellow for getting his first win as a 1st team coach!!

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sacred_june (GrooveChild) wrote:
Hawkesy wrote:IDFK where the offence is committed, irrespective of where the ball is. So the ball could be in the opponents penalty area and your gk committed the offence then it would be an IDFK in your own box and a yellow card to the gk .
fair enough. but he was right next to the referree (who was standing in near the half way line) when he got the booking for dissent, then the ref ran into the penalty area and gave the IDFK there!
I'm pretty sure that it should have been an IDFK near the halfway line then, not in the 6 yard box. You would obviously use common sense as to when to award this though, similar to using advantage in a game.

My copy of the laws are in the car, i'll check this one later but i'm 99% sure.
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