Swearing on the field

[WAB]

Whats the rule about swearing on the field is it a stright red?

becuase a player on my team last week got a straight red when he got hacked down and the player that hacked him got a red and so did the boy on my team for swearing back at him.

isn't it ment to be atleast a yellow??

[teddles]

Whats the rule about swearing on the field is it a stright red?

becuase a player on my team last week got a straight red when he got hacked down and the player that hacked him got a red and so did the boy on my team for swearing back at him.

isn't it ment to be atleast a yellow??

According to the lad, who recently did the ref's course, you get a warning, then a yellow and if you continue, a red (second yellow I guess). That's the official stance.

Speaking from personal observation, it's up to the ref on the day and probably has a lot to do with the circumstances.

[WAB]

he now has a 2 game suspension and the boy that tackled him only has a 1 game. also at 2days game my coach told me theres a new rule its a automatic red for swearing. is this true??

[theblues]

he now has a 2 game suspension and the boy that tackled him only has a 1 game. also at 2days game my coach told me theres a new rule its a automatic red for swearing. is this true??

Your coach is correct , swearing is a straight red card.

[Sign Him]

it is a straight red when u swear at a player, parent, ref, coach etc... if u swear for a mistake.. its not... its a warning then a yellow then a red

[povman_2009]

FIFA has instigated a world wide policy of zero tolerance for swearing in Matches. This is being introduced in leagues from the EPL down.

The Law 12 , subsection 6 says

uses offensive or insulting or abusive
language and/or gestures

It does not mean that it has to be directed at anyone, if you say it out loud, and the referee can clearly identify it was you, then you are liable to be given a straight RED CARD.

[Missing Post Count]

uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

Unfortunately what is considered offensive is open to interpretation.

[Squizzy]

Umm..... How about just not swearing?

Wouldn't have thought it was rocket science.

[Pinga]

Umm..... How about just not swearing?

Wouldn't have thought it was rocket science.

Easier said then done. When you do something wrong during a game, sometimes you don't even mean to swear, but its a spur of the moment thing.

[Squizzy]

Umm..... How about just not swearing?

Wouldn't have thought it was rocket science.

Easier said then done. When you do something wrong during a game, sometimes you don't even mean to swear, but its a spur of the moment thing.

Fair comment but let's not use it as an excuse for not trying eradicate it.

[povman_2009]

I have been fighting the fight on swearing for years, my players seem to think it is ok to cut loose at training but I keep trying to remind them that what they do during the week will come out during a game and if they get sent off for it then they can look forward to a very long road back... In junior competitions zero tolerance is the only way to go, and I see no real reason why it cannot be extended to seniors as well. If games get abandoned because there is no-one left on the park then players will eventually get the message.

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[povman_2009]

Parents telling players what to do on the field can be annoying and is very distracting for the coach and players themselves. I used to have a couple of parents who were very vocal in instructing players where to go and what to do , often to the detriment of the team and completely at odds with what I was trying to achieve. I held a team parents meeting and politely pointed out that the kids need to have a single stream of information and that I would certainly welcome any input from parents after games if they had some information they wanted to provide.
I also actively encouraged the parents to provide support for the players and to react positively to both teams play on the field. One individual felt he could not control his "outbursts" so I politely reminded him that I was the coach and that if he could not cope then maybe he should refrain from coming to games, he stopped coming, (which is sad but his choice).

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he stopped coming, (which is sad but his choice).

It's good that he accepts he can't control himself, but it's sad that (if that's the case) he drops his child off and then disappears.

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[Green_Manalishi]

I have similiar issues (and I have been thinking of doing the same thing) but some of my parents are coaches also and they could be a bit sensitive in being told what to do.

They should be able to cope with it. After all would they like you at their games doing the same thing.

Sometimes us 'loudmouths' (yes I forget to pull my head in sometimes) just need a quiet word to modify our behaviour.

GM

[Squizzy]

I have similiar issues (and I have been thinking of doing the same thing) but some of my parents are coaches also and they could be a bit sensitive in being told what to do.

They should be able to cope with it. After all would they like you at their games doing the same thing.

Sometimes us 'loudmouths' (yes I forget to pull my head in sometimes) just need a quiet word to modify our behaviour.

GM

And if they are a coach, they should know better.

[Killa Pass]

BIG RED wrote:
I have similiar issues (and I have been thinking of doing the same thing) but some of my parents are coaches also and they could be a bit sensitive in being told what to do.

I tend to think positive encouragement is great for our game whether from a coach or parent.

I think alot of caoches that have kids of other coaches need to look past their own nose and embrace the fact that you have them standing on the side lines and instead of them standing on the side lines actually bring them into the team to assist and benefit the whole team. If they are instructing players maybe they have an issue with you as a coach!!!! I tend to think they would be "sensitive in being told what to do" is extremely narrow minded.

If I was coaching kids that had parents as coaches I would feel honoured they are allowing me to coach their child and use their experience or assistance as much as possible to benefit the entire team.

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I did my head in trying to read that

[Killa Pass]

same typing it...... sometimes I think coaches get a little carried away with their own importance.....as long it's encouragement in direction.... the players are happy....who cares??

If you as the head coach had a problem with a parent coach telling a kid something different to what you are trying to do.... far-out get a grip and have a chat with that parent coach and bring them into the team.

[teddles]

The ONLY person standing on the sidelines with any right to be giving instructions to the kids is the coach. End of story. Parents who try to interfere are letting their own arrogance get in the way of the best interests of the team and certainly do nothing to help their own child. There's nothing wrong with a lot of noise, but it needs to be positive and team orientated.

[povman_2009]

Gangsta, you seem to have jumped in boots and all to what was a reasonable discussion, no-one suggested you should not ask them to help out and involve them , it is just that for younger kids especially it is much easier to have one voice trying to instruct them on the field.

In all areas of the games development it is important to have as many opinions and as much help as is available.

You seem to have formed the opinion that some of us consider ourselves "to good" to take help or advice , and I think from mine and BR's perspective you could not be further from the truth.

[Killa Pass]

[quote][/quote]The ONLY person standing on the sidelines with any right to be giving instructions to the kids is the coach. End of story. Parents who try to interfere are letting their own arrogance get in the way of the best interests of the team and certainly do nothing to help their own child. There's nothing wrong with a lot of noise, but it needs to be positive and team orientate.

I agree totally but to state like Big Red has that he has parent coaches and they could be sensitive to being told is narrow minded and pig headed.

BIG RED wrote:
I have similiar issues (and I have been thinking of doing the same thing) but some of my parents are coaches also and they could be a bit sensitive in being told what to do.

[Killa Pass]

Povman better to be in boots and all hey...... studs down... it's all still reasonable:D

OK I read in the E&D forum that you also held B&R's hand.... this all seems a tad strange.

I have a quote "Opinons are like a----holes some off them stink"

[Killa Pass]

Hey Povman & Big Red, Just got back from training and witnessed an over bearing parent....hey it didn't seem to good..... the coach was instructing one thing and the parent was yelling something else but both didn't communicate at the end of the game the parent was still going off at the kid.

I get ya points....sometimes the Gangsta can be wrong...... :?

[povman_2009]

Sometimes life teaches us a lesson, sooner rather than later...

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Gangsta

[BIG RED]

Gangsta, you seem to have jumped in boots and all to what was a reasonable discussion, no-one suggested you should not ask them to help out and involve them , it is just that for younger kids especially it is much easier to have one voice trying to instruct them on the field.

In all areas of the games development it is important to have as many opinions and as much help as is available.

You seem to have formed the opinion that some of us consider ourselves "to good" to take help or advice , and I think from mine and BR's perspective you could not be further from the truth.

[justasupporter]

uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

Unfortunately what is considered offensive is open to interpretation.

Quite right....but the rules are the rules and so if people don't want to get either a yellow or red card button up or practise a word that is acceptable....it's not a hard thing to do