SAASL WILL DIE - NEED NEW REFS

club man · Post by **club man** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:36 pm

Unless the clubs work out a way to attract NEW BLOOD the future of the SAASL IS BLEAK

the REAL one · Post by **the REAL one** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:50 pm

4 once i agree with u...

but how do u solve it? bad enough clubs have to fork out cash to pay refs... whats the league doing?

marooned · Post by **marooned** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:53 pm

Unless maso pres can tone down the brightness of his flag my eyesite will be bleak

Quiz night champs 2 years in a row

Thanks again for a fun night maso pres will be back next year to defend the title. Sorry I didnt finish off all your caronas but I was seedy from the thirty I drank on comedy night.

protect the refs from the dimwits and the refs will call games as they see it and not pander to the crowd. more red cards for dissent is the first step.
Anyone touching a ref should be banned for life. Anyone chasing a ref should be prosecuted.

club man · Post by **club man** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:03 pm

UNKOWN see we can live in the same WORLD and not fight

MAROONED wear sunnies if flag is Too Bright, and you only won because you were smarter

BUT the topic is how do we find new blood, not how to look after the current lot. The management commitee has not been able to FIX THE PROBLEM time to use the DOWNS ideas and come up with a plan

Olympic (Vista) Bhoy · Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:09 pm

How many on here would seriously consider refereeing?

No t me, not in a 1,000 years.

I'd have to red card every hun

diegom · Post by **diegom** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:19 pm

They should worry about getting referees to Div1 B's games more often and then work on the rest.
but yeah good call maso, but I think most refs are scared of doing the job and are sometimes provoked into pleasing the home team.
Some refs are getting a bit old now and the pace of div 1 football is gradually increasing in speed, I think the old geezers will struggle to keep up pace.

I vote JD for Ref???

JP · Post by JP » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:19 pm

Vista_Bhoy wrote:How many on here would seriously consider refereeing?

No t me, not in a 1,000 years.

I'd have to red card every hun

Id never do it.... $70 a game wouldnt even cover the security expenses needed. The amount of abuse and threats, simply aint worth it.

marooned · Post by **marooned** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:20 pm

I'd have to red card every hun

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then there would only be defenders left and every game would finish in a tight 0-0 result, no, leave the talent on the field vb

club man · Post by **club man** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:35 pm

Give me a DOWNS PLAN, our survival depends on it

I propose we PAY MORE $100 A Grade $75 B Grade , PLEASE DONT CRY POVERTY we are all in the same creek and it does smell

Happy Kopite · Post by **Happy Kopite** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:53 pm

I propose that the SAASL use some of the $750,000 in their little piggy banks to put towards paying for refs. The money only ever seems to go one way - and that's from the players into the league.

marooned · Post by **marooned** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:53 pm

what we need is a code of conduct for all players and supporters and stop the abuse. Abuse turns away just as many good refs as it does bad. people and refs make mistakes as does everyone that ever walked the earth (exept vista bhoy) Ive seen just as many loud mouthed supporters get the call wrong and if we all abused them and hounded them all game then we would have no supporters either.

sweet mate productions · Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:55 pm

possibly the volunteers of each club should do a course and become a qualified ref, these are the guys who usually do the b team refereeing, that way there a good standard. Possibly also an incentive for a person from each of the clubs both sat and sunday to do ref course become qualified and then on the days that there team is not playing, to ref. EG - mod vista rep to ref sat div games and vice versa for a sat div rep. feedback on this.

Aldo Serena · Post by **Aldo Serena** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:01 pm

I tend to agree with Kopite...It's not the problem of the clubs, it's the league's problem.

Happy Kopite · Post by **Happy Kopite** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:06 pm

Aldo Serena wrote:I tend to agree with Kopite...It's not the problem of the clubs, it's the league's problem.

Thank you buddy. Look what problems Juve and Italian soccer are in when the clubs pay the refs.

I couldn't resist...

club man · Post by **club man** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:22 pm

Aldo Serena wrote:I tend to agree with Kopite...It's not the problem of the clubs, it's the league's problem.

THE CLUBS ARE THE LEAGUE, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE WAY IT WORKS. The committee is elected by us to run the league the way we want, if you want the committee to spend the money it has collected on our behalf then send a MESSAGE get your pres to bring it up at a General meeting.

Mr Football · Post by **Mr Football** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:27 pm

I'll become a ref, i've always wanted to but i think my safety would have some doubt when i start enforcing yellow cards for diving (apparently this is a rule) i think a lot of clubs would get very upset when they have to change the way they've been playing for so long

Knight7 · Post by **Knight7** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:27 pm

The Masters have a very strict code of conduct if you exceed 45 points (or is it 40) for a season you need to reapply and are under review - it's still competitive but much friendlier and you can chat with referees etc

web · Post by **web** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:31 pm

Maso Pres.as you would know its not always that easy to get you club reps on the league committee.Very few new members have got on . and if they do its not for long.you just have to look at the long term members that are on there now...very hard to budge them.
I agree with some of the comments earlier .a hell of a lot of money goes to the league ..not much comes back...I think the league should be doing a hell of a lot more than they do to support the Clubs(members).instead of just taking most of the time. The league should be doing something with the clubs about the refree shortage...but both parties just blame the other.

club man · Post by **club man** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:37 pm

Do not have to be on the committee to tell them what to do, the clubs are the BOSS why dont you all undrstand that (its easy)

web · Post by **web** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:40 pm

They do not always listen.
very rarely.do they do anything.
easy saying the clubs control them ...i disagree...otherwise things would have changed for the positive ..you cant say they have?

colon clenser · Post by **colon clenser** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:18 pm

a rep from each club goes and refs another division,,,and gets paid,,,but abusing the refs doesnt help,,,i mentioned a couple of weeks ago how a young 18yo ref was doing a great job,,a couple of weeks ago he disallowed a goal which was the right decision only to have a spectator run onto the pitch and abuse the crap out of him,,,lets not cry when we run out of refs cause all the money in the world wont help,,,

rooboy1986 · Post by **rooboy1986** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:10 pm

i was speaking to a younger ref (late 20s) in feds and he said he wouldn't ref amateurs and he said it was because 2 reasons, no security (players, spectators or own change rooms) and because he'd rather referee at the highest level in the state eg. super league...better money and working conditions...

sparts · Post by **sparts** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:52 pm

then send all the oldies down to the lower divs and they still get crucified down there!

O DIALOS V1 · Post by **O DIALOS V1** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:58 am

I think mavraki would be a great ref.

Referee-ing is a shitty job that no one wants to do.

If the referees working conditions were improved (more pay, security from violence, etc) then Id tend to think there would be more willing to do the job.

Maybe the federation should call the refs in and do a poll/questionaire and see what they think of the situation. Ie have questions asking what they dislike about current referee-ing and what they would like to see improved in in terms of their job. This way theyd understand what the current crop of refs think, and see what parts of referee-ing are failing and improve on them.

East Boy · Post by **East Boy** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:54 pm

Anyways i'll get away from that crap and actually post about the topic.

What ever happened to the "White Coat" people?? They were just blokes form each club who were the "security" from crowd violence and for the refs. Not too sure if it happens in the amatuer league but used to in the feds. This may give some, or at least 5 guys, power to protect the ref and spectators. I think it used to work well, as they weren't just yobo's but had some sort of duty of care.

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:56 pm

there r younger refs out there that wud do it but cant cause they rnt qualified or don hav enuf expereince YET to do it.

sweet mate productions · Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:39 pm

i think the white coat thing applies casual, where assigned when playing home are 3 reps of the club however they not needing to wear white coats. I'm probably wrong and making this up. As for Maso, doesn't vista play u this week

milosevic · Post by **milosevic** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:32 pm

halo i am still alive refs are trying so hard even having no watch on their hand or any red or yellow cards and asking the co how long too go i think it,s not on east boy

East Boy · Post by **East Boy** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:38 pm

Im sorry milosevic, not to be rude, but that makes no sense to me. Your saying the refs dont have a watch anymore, or any cards and then asking the co? coach? how much time is left in the game? Not quite following buddy. Please can u try again. ta

sweet mate productions · Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:40 pm

milosevic, speak english mate, even i couldn't understand