The aged old Premier league v Seria A v La Liga debate

[Juventino]

You seem to be picking at anything to fill your little vendetta Madridista. The goals are boring now? Seems rather petty to me considering that is far from the case.

Meh, each to their own.

[Piola]

You seem to be picking at anything to fill your little vendetta Madridista. The goals are boring now? Seems rather petty to me considering that is far from the case.

Meh, each to their own.

its not petty, just another classic footballnews.com.au case of YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE

QUAGLIARELLAAAAAAAAA
PAPONIIIIIIIIIII
ROCCHIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
AMAURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
fuck even, ER PUPONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I have the top 10 goals of last season if you want them PM me and they generally take mroe class than someone just smacking a ball from 25m out as happens in the EPL. These goals are just pure creativity and world class finishing.

[Blue Mastiff]

its fair to say that the likes of ballotta, rigs, vigs, juventino and myself are probably the most informed and intelligent forumites on this forum and even though i disagree with their choice of clubs that thay support we form a strong bond when i speak for all of us when i declare that Italians Serie A is and will reamin the best league in the world.

i extend an outstretched hand to my pests from lazio, pescara, vicenza and juve and propose a night of peroni beers and Calcio Serie A dvds on my big projector screen.

i will get vigs to get in contact with you all.
im very underground and only come out at night.
i sleep only when i need to and prefer to sleep not on my back but upside down.
my retreat is made of only 4 walls and darkness is my poison.
i dislike the sunshine and enjoy days filled with cold, pitch blackness and gloom.

i would also like to express that without the scum that is ballotta, rigs, vigs and juventino this forum would be as boring as batshit.

[vigilante]

hahahahahahahahaha that's some of the funniest shit i've read in ages!

good to see the serie b & c followers are not forgotten.

No prizes for guessing which game i'll be bringing to watch

[vigilante]

I do agree that England is ahead in terms of tactics, competitiveness, and possibly even player quality. I still think that La Liga has more excitement and "wow" factor if you will....more flashy football, tricks here and there etc. I know theres a lot of Italian guys out there and HONESTLY nothing against you guys or your league at all but I find it boring. As for player development though Italy is way ahead of both Spain and England

care to explain this reasoning? is it just me or does it seem like a contradiction

[delfino_1936]

its fair to say that the likes of ballotta, rigs, vigs, juventino and myself are probably the most informed and intelligent forumites on this forum and even though i disagree with their choice of clubs that thay support we form a strong bond when i speak for all of us when i declare that Italians Serie A is and will reamin the best league in the world.

i extend an outstretched hand to my pests from lazio, pescara, vicenza and juve and propose a night of peroni beers and Calcio Serie A dvds on my big projector screen.

i will get vigs to get in contact with you all.
im very underground and only come out at night.
i sleep only when i need to and prefer to sleep not on my back but upside down.
my retreat is made of only 4 walls and darkness is my poison.
i dislike the sunshine and enjoy days filled with cold, pitch blackness and gloom.

i would also like to express that without the scum that is ballotta, rigs, vigs and juventino this forum would be as boring as batshit.

brilliant stuff.. ahahaha

hahahahahahahahaha that's some of the funniest cabernet i've read in ages!

good to see the serie b & c followers are not forgotten.

No prizes for guessing which game i'll be bringing to watch

i'll enjoy seeing the gli amici winning that!!!! ;)

[manU4life]

i like calcium mmmmmmm milk. you eyetalians talk about calcium alot

[delfino_1936]

i like calcium mmmmmmm milk. you eyetalians talk about calcium alot

fuck off brefo ;)

your mummy still give you calcium milk for breakfast big guy???

[Hawkesy]

its fair to say that the likes of ballotta, rigs, vigs, juventino and myself are probably the most informed and intelligent forumites on this forum and even though i disagree with their choice of clubs that thay support we form a strong bond when i speak for all of us when i declare that Italians Serie A is and will reamin the best league in the world.

So basically because they agree with your theory they are the most intelligent. To me intelligence is the ability to see both sides of an argument and come up with a conclusion.

The fact remains that most italians think seria A is the best and English the premier league etc.

I have tried to create a balanced argument at the start of this thread but it appears that most italians (like australians) have an inferiority complex and have to cry as loud as possible. MY LEAGUES THE BEST!!

[sparrow]

I don't have RAI, but I have more than enough to judge from with the 2 games a week that Setanta shows as well as the highlights package (let me tell you the highlights aren't very high at all) and the Champions League, I really don't find Roma's football entertaining at all ESPECIALLY the game against Real Madrid, so far this season I have seen coverage of Inter, AC Milan, Roma, Juventus, Lazio, Sampdoria, Empoli and Fiorentina and apart from Lazio which were generally entertaining games, 2-2 and 4-2 and Fiorentina who, play an entertaining level of football (for me the best in the Serie A) the rest were all completely crap, I have a friend who supports AC Milan and assures me I should keep watching, which I do in the hope that there will be some miraculous awakening, but no, plain and simple I find it so boring that I find myself wishing Blue Square Premier League was on instead.....they may not be high quality, but there's very little diving, no crowd violence and for a 5th division it has some decent football sometimes, having said that my preferences (from the major leagues that I've seen and follow) are:

1. La Liga
2. English Premier League
3. Dutch Eredivisie
4. Portuguese Superliga
5. Scottish Premier League
6. Le Championnat
7. Bundesliga
8. Serie A

Are you insane. Serie A at number 8. This is the most ridiculous post I have ever read. I generally respect everyone's opinion but clearly madrid boy you've been drinking alot of sea water.
You didn't even list the A league, The Victorian provisional div 3 north east league, The J league etc all worthy of the number 8 slot.
Me thinks you are just trying to get on the good side of the Italians by rating Serie A so highly.

[Bomber]

Who really cares which is the best? I watch and like them all. Some EPL games are better than Serie A, some aren't.

[delfino_1936]

Are you insane. Serie A at number 8. This is the most ridiculous post I have ever read. I generally respect everyone's opinion but clearly madrid boy you've been drinking alot of sea water.
You didn't even list the A league, The Victorian provisional div 3 north east league, The J league etc all worthy of the number 8 slot.
Me thinks you are just trying to get on the good side of the Italians by rating Serie A so highly.

laughing at ya not with ya

[Hawkesy]

I do agree that England is ahead in terms of tactics, competitiveness, and possibly even player quality. I still think that La Liga has more excitement and "wow" factor if you will....more flashy football, tricks here and there etc. I know theres a lot of Italian guys out there and HONESTLY nothing against you guys or your league at all but I find it boring. As for player development though Italy is way ahead of both Spain and England

care to explain this reasoning? is it just me or does it seem like a contradiction

Where's the contradiction? :?

[vigilante]

firstly he states that players in italy are behind in quality, then he states that player development in italy is way ahead of spain and england... would not overall player development involve tactical awareness, quality etc? that's all i'm getting at.

At the risk of sounding relativist I'm not for rating leagues, each have their strong point. it is a matter of personal preference imo, but to rate the italian league below the scottish one is rather far fetched.

and let me guess what the spaniard's come back will be.. just baiting

[Juventino]

I'll bring the 1982 WC Final, Italia 90 games and for the main attraction, the 1996 CL final

[Hawkesy]

Player development could be better in one country because the other just buys the "best" layers from overseas. I see it as a fair point to be honest.

And i think the rating of Seria A as 8th was just him having a laugh, I'd be amazed if it wasn't. I mean 8th, it could never be that high. I mean my beloved celtic would destroy any italian team.

[Hawkesy]

Italia 90 games

That was a great WC. A toss up between that and Mexico 86 for me on my favourite.

If only the waddler and psycho could take penalties

[Juventino]

The Belgians were unlucky I say

[# 9]

Player development could be better in one country because the other just buys the "best" layers from overseas. I see it as a fair point to be honest.

And i think the rating of Seria A as 8th was just him having a laugh, I'd be amazed if it wasn't. I mean 8th, it could never be that high. I mean my beloved celtic would destroy any italian team.

2 teams for hawkesy

[Juventino]

You should read Celtic topics where Hawkesy has posted

[Piola]

I'll bring the 1982 WC Final, Italia 90 games and for the main attraction, the 1996 CL final

farken how bout a certain match played on the 5th of May

or a day back in 2000 when Perugia flooded in Summertime

[Hawkesy]

Player development could be better in one country because the other just buys the "best" layers from overseas. I see it as a fair point to be honest.

And i think the rating of Seria A as 8th was just him having a laugh, I'd be amazed if it wasn't. I mean 8th, it could never be that high. I mean my beloved celtic would destroy any italian team.

2 teams for hawkesy

It's like taking candy from a baby!

[The one and only]

its fair to say that the likes of ballotta, rigs, vigs, juventino and myself are probably the most informed and intelligent forumites on this forum and even though i disagree with their choice of clubs that thay support we form a strong bond when i speak for all of us when i declare that Italians Serie A is and will reamin the best league in the world.

i extend an outstretched hand to my pests from lazio, pescara, vicenza and juve and propose a night of peroni beers and Calcio Serie A dvds on my big projector screen.

i will get vigs to get in contact with you all.
im very underground and only come out at night.
i sleep only when i need to and prefer to sleep not on my back but upside down.
my retreat is made of only 4 walls and darkness is my poison.
i dislike the sunshine and enjoy days filled with cold, pitch blackness and gloom.

i would also like to express that without the scum that is ballotta, rigs, vigs and juventino this forum would be as boring as batshit.

what makes you more intelligent and informed then me

[ozzie owl]

I don't have RAI, but I have more than enough to judge from with the 2 games a week that Setanta shows as well as the highlights package (let me tell you the highlights aren't very high at all) and the Champions League, I really don't find Roma's football entertaining at all ESPECIALLY the game against Real Madrid, so far this season I have seen coverage of Inter, AC Milan, Roma, Juventus, Lazio, Sampdoria, Empoli and Fiorentina and apart from Lazio which were generally entertaining games, 2-2 and 4-2 and Fiorentina who, play an entertaining level of football (for me the best in the Serie A) the rest were all completely crap, I have a friend who supports AC Milan and assures me I should keep watching, which I do in the hope that there will be some miraculous awakening, but no, plain and simple I find it so boring that I find myself wishing Blue Square Premier League was on instead.....they may not be high quality, but there's very little diving, no crowd violence and for a 5th division it has some decent football sometimes, having said that my preferences (from the major leagues that I've seen and follow) are:

1. La Liga
2. English Premier League
3. Dutch Eredivisie
4. Portuguese Superliga
5. Scottish Premier League
6. Le Championnat
7. Bundesliga
8. Serie A

Seria A miles better than Scott1sh football. I would go for:

1. La Liga
2. EPL
3. Seria A.
4. Bundes League.

[Madridista612]

care to explain this reasoning? is it just me or does it seem like a contradiction

No contradiction, let me clarify, tactically I believe the players in Italy (not necessarily Italian players) are now behind the players who play in England in terms of tactics by this I mean that the organisation of both attack and defence, innovation of altered formations and the ability for (especially the big teams) to turn results around, the coaching is of a better standard. In my opinion Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, (up until a while ago) Jose Mourinho, Rafa Benitez, Sven Goran Eriksson and hell even Martin O'Neill are of a better standard than Spaletti, Ancelotti and co. Italy in terms of developing players for the national team is obviously ahead though, they are able to maintain many of their national team stars in the Serie A and generally develop young players very very well.

Seria A miles better than Scott1sh football. I would go for:

1. La Liga
2. EPL
3. Seria A.
4. Bundes League.

Let me clarify that as well I believe that the Italian League has more quality than the Scottish League but as a spectacle I enjoy watching Scottish football more so than Italian football, with the likes of McGeady (who will blitz past players and deliver in lethal crosses) and Barry Ferguson who's an absolute beast who never gives up, Scott McDonald who scores at will, Jan Venegoor of Hesselink, Nacho Novo, Cuellar etc etc these players they may be in a league which has less quality but the way Celtic and Rangers play in the SPL is more exciting to me than any teams I've seen in the Serie A

[Piola]

i sent you the goals Madrista, dont tell me they are boring

[vigilante]

ok i get your point however you would think that there would be more italians playing abroad then if they seem to produce more quality international players. i don't necessarily agree with what you say in the tactical arena, in particular when we look at the epl defences, i continually witness diabolical displays of fundamentally poor defensive work. the only time they show the epl in italy is when they are showing a bloopers tape of calamitous errors. anyway these arguments could go on forever. each to their own then

[Translator]

ok i get your point however you would think that there would be more italians playing abroad then if they seem to produce more quality international players. i don't necessarily agree with what you say in the tactical arena, in particular when we look at the epl defences, i continually witness diabolical displays of fundamentally poor defensive work. the only time they show the epl in italy is when they are showing a bloopers tape of calamitous errors. anyway these arguments could go on forever. each to their own then

you finally worked it out vigs

My wife prefers watching AFL to football, knows sweet FA about either sport but she just reckons there's more action happening in AFL because of the "pile ons".

Same logic can be applied to those that say EPL is more entertaining, they just don't understand the game well enough to understand how poor a show it is.

Like I always say some people prefer playing Chess, others hungry hungry hippos, would you seriously waste your time teaching someone how to play Chess if all they want to do is count bubbles.

[Madridista612]

you finally worked it out vigs

My wife prefers watching AFL to football, knows sweet FA about either sport but she just reckons there's more action happening in AFL because of the "pile ons".

Same logic can be applied to those that say EPL is more entertaining, they just don't understand the game well enough to understand how poor a show it is.

Like I always say some people prefer playing Chess, others hungry hungry hippos, would you seriously waste your time teaching someone how to play Chess if all they want to do is count bubbles.

Pull your head out of your ass son, don't get all high and mighty thinking you have a superior football intellect just because people don't have the same opinion as you....seriously how mucked in the head do you have to be to believe that you're better than someone and that your opinion is absolute truth. Get trucked mate. I play chess just fine and watch more football in a week than you've watched in the entirity of your life.

[sparrow]

Your wife prefers AFL to football because you have probably subjected her to years of the bore known as Italian football.
I for one obviously don't understand football, as I do enjoy the EPL.
Interesting you mention Chess as it is about as exciting as Italian football.
Sick of this topic as people have different opinions and obviously if you aren't Italian your opinion doesn't count and you know nothing about football ffs. I do admire your patriotism but reality is a rude awakening.