Why oh why?

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:10 am

diegom wrote:No, I cant stand the merda Juve and Inter
their both cheating scum!

yea but youd rather see an italian team, if not your own, bating english teams and so on, for the pride of your country

Hawkesy · Post by **Hawkesy** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:12 am

e-football wrote:You are not a Man Utd Fan or Liverppool fan hence you wanting one of the others to win the cup is differrent.

I find it amazing you have Palace and Arsenal in your sig too!

I have already had that argument with him.

I like to see the English teams well but i was a huge Palermo supporter about this time last year. My teams rivals are scum and i repeat what i said "I would support saddam hussein XI over them".

I like to see the English teams doing well, if palace ever become a big team (big teams qualify for Europe) then they will NOT get my support as they are a rival. arsenal, liverpool, man u, spurs etc.. are not.

As for supporting your country and the national team. I remember watching a madrid v someone game last year and I cheared on madrid as they had more Englihsman in their side.

The idea of man u supporters backing Liverpool and vice versa is absolutely laughable and to be honest, anyone who thinks otherwise is showing a complete and utter lack of knowledge of the game.

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:15 am

Hawkesy wrote:
e-football wrote:You are not a Man Utd Fan or Liverppool fan hence you wanting one of the others to win the cup is differrent.

I find it amazing you have Palace and Arsenal in your sig too!
I have already had that argument with him.

I like to see the English teams well but i was a huge Palermo supporter about this time last year. My teams rivals are scum and i repeat what i said "I would support saddam hussein XI over them".

I like to see the English teams doing well, if palace ever become a big team (big teams qualify for Europe) then they will NOT get my support as they are a rival. arsenal, liverpool, man u, spurs etc.. are not.

As for supporting your country and the national team. I remember watching a madrid v someone game last year and I cheared on madrid as they had more Englihsman in their side.

The idea of man u supporters backing Liverpool and vice versa is absolutely laughable and to be honest, anyone who thinks otherwise is showing a complete and utter lack of knowledge of the game.

thats the point ive been tryin to get across, apart from the fact that arsenal and palace run through the family

Hawkesy · Post by **Hawkesy** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:17 am

Best Of 3 Worlds wrote:apart from the fact that arsenal and palace run

Most sensible post you have ever made.

TDGv2 · Post by **TDGv2** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:20 am

There's a difference though. I generally like to see my neighbours happy, except that knut across the street. I laughed when he crashed his car.

For me, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea are that knut across the street. Man U is that annoying old lady who I mean no harm to but would not be bothered if she croaked tomorrow. Everton are your neighbour you have a chat with and wish him good day when you see him, but if he had a loud party at 2am, you'd still call the cops.

Raich Carter · Post by **Raich Carter** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:40 am

And Newcastle are the lad down the street who tries really hard but you know will never amount to anything

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:18 pm

tottenham's the bloke 3 doors down that buys a new Mercedes but then crashes it the 2nd day he has it.

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:12 pm

gotta love the examples coming up

Translator · Post by **Translator** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:28 pm

Best Of 3 Worlds wrote:gotta love the examples coming up

here's one for you.

A person who supports more than one club and splashes them all over his sig is like the guy down the road, who you used to talk to until he got married as his wife's a mole so you just wave but he's now got dementia so you don't bother because you don't know if he's all there or off with the fairies

pires7 · Post by **pires7** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:43 pm

his signature is a sign of the "Globalised" information age we live in today. 20 years ago, most people could never see so much football across 3 leagues. I think we are in a unique situation in Australia, that we have all outsourced (excluding imigrants/team handed down through parents etc.) to find a team we enjoy watching. In Europe, there would be no need to support more than one side as you live in the city they play, ala cows supporters in adelaide.

We are used to supporting our national team of our ethnic background at Euro's and WC's as Australia has been all over the place. Take an Englishman in Newcastle, he would support Newcastle and England, nothing else required.

TDGv2 · Post by **TDGv2** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:46 pm

Arsenal's that guy that's got the flashy car, has the new clothes, the hair-machine haircut and the big house. On the outside he looks pretty cool, but everyone thinks he's a c_unt and he's a closet homoseckhual.

pires7 · Post by **pires7** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:57 pm

TDGv2 wrote:Arsenal's that guy that's got the flashy car, has the new clothes, the hair-machine haircut and the big house. On the outside he looks pretty cool, but everyone thinks he's a c_unt and he's a closet homoseckhual.

Totthenham would be the guy with just as much money as you, spends just as much, but just never looks as good, and never pulls the fittest bird.

Owusu_1 · Post by **Owusu_1** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:01 pm

In response to the original question I believe "ronnie" delivers an adequate answer.

Ronnie wrote:I think when it comes down to it, Liverpool were the much better team on the night, and this had little to do with the sending off. Liverpool dominated the match early, and the early tactics of getting at the slow lumpy Materazzi worked perfectly, with him being sucked into two clumsy fouls to get himself sent off.

The way that Liverpool played is not always the most attractive, often playing the ball around and holding possession making a number of half chances for the first 75 minutes and then unleashing Stevie G to get at them and try to snatch a late win. This frustrates me to no end, and often means they only draw and sometimes lose in the league, but against the European teams it always seems to work.

Liverpool have a solid as back line that give European teams who don't attack them no chance of penetrating the wall. Even before the send off, Carragher and Hyypia (even though he is aging and is slow as) gave Inter nothing. I haven't seen much Serie A, but every time i see Ibrahimovic in a European cup game he disappoints. Carragher showed just how good he is this morning. I have seen a lot of you bag him out, and yeah he isn't the classiest player, but he would be in the first XI of any club team in the world.

Liverpool rely too much on Carragher, Gerrard and Torres, but they also seem to be able to get the most out of their own ability in big Euro cup games. Until they build their squad with at least another class striker and midfielder they wont press for domestic honours, but they will continue to impress in the European cup

Now to throw my humble opinion into the great argument of Serie A vs. EPL. I do believe that the Serie A is of a higher quality but the EPL is marketed much more efficiently and well presented to the viewing audience, to put it simply the games looks great on television. This is where the Serie A has to catch up, they must make the league more marketable.

TDGv2 · Post by **TDGv2** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:10 pm

Middlesborough's that guy that shoots himself and nobody finds his body until a few weeks later when the stench gets unbearable, because nobody even notices he's gone.

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:37 pm

Romerpoolaide wrote:Now to throw my humble opinion into the great argument of Serie A vs. EPL. I do believe that the Serie A is of a higher quality but the EPL is marketed much more efficiently and well presented to the viewing audience, to put it simply the games looks great on television. This is where the Serie A has to catch up, they must make the league more marketable.

thank you. agree 100% with the riommanista piece of shit. after 6 pages it took a giallorosso merda to finally understand the whole point.

watch Serie A on SKY Italia and you'll be blown away

pires7 · Post by **pires7** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:40 pm

marco ballotta wrote:
Romerpoolaide wrote:Now to throw my humble opinion into the great argument of Serie A vs. EPL. I do believe that the Serie A is of a higher quality but the EPL is marketed much more efficiently and well presented to the viewing audience, to put it simply the games looks great on television. This is where the Serie A has to catch up, they must make the league more marketable.
thank you. agree 100% with the riommanista piece of cabernet. after 6 pages it took a giallorosso merda to finally understand the whole point.

watch Serie A on SKY Italia and you'll be blown away

we'll send in rupert murdoch to fix the problem for you!

Raich Carter · Post by **Raich Carter** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:43 pm

TDGv2 wrote:Middlesborough's that guy that shoots himself and nobody finds his body until a few weeks later when the stench gets unbearable, because nobody even notices he's gone.

Gold

Owusu_1 · Post by **Owusu_1** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:12 pm

marco ballotta wrote:After 6 pages it took i Giallorossi merda to finally understand the whole point.
Watch Serie A on SKY Italia and you'll be blown away.

Dude relax with the insults, since I stumbled on this late of course it was going to take me six pages to understand because I had to read all the viewpoints being put forth.
I've only watched Serie A games on RAI, is there a difference with SKY Italia?

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:16 pm

Romerpoolaide wrote:
marco ballotta wrote:After 6 pages it took i Giallorossi merda to finally understand the whole point.
Watch Serie A on SKY Italia and you'll be blown away.
Dude relax with the insults, since I stumbled on this late of course it was going to take me six pages to understand because I had to read all the viewpoints being put forth.
I've only watched Serie A games on RAI, is there a difference with SKY Italia?

sorry lol, I meant that you were the first person in 6 pages to understand

SKY Italia is the same quality as FOX's broadcast of EPL here (clear picture and you can hear crowds)

roma merda

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:44 pm

I can assure you my reasoning is having gone to approx 800 games live...it has fuck all to do with TV. TV and live (leaguer) football didn't exist properly until mid 1980's!

No offence to anyone, as most of you were born in Aus and its's not your fault you haven't been to games (Due to age and location). However to say what is good and bad from watching bits on TV is laughable, it's not the same as going to matches I can assure you.

If and when anyone goes to a Liverpool v Man Utd game at Anfield you will see what I mean. You often read how the Kop spurs Liveerpool on, I haven't ever read how the fans at San Siro heve sucked a goal in for either Milan team!

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:51 pm

e-football wrote:I can assure you my reasoning is having gone to approx 800 games live...it has shiraz all to do with TV. TV and live (leaguer) football didn't exist properly until mid 1980's!

No offence to anyone, as most of you were born in Aus and its's not your fault you haven't been to games (Due to age and location). However to say what is good and bad from watching bits on TV is laughable, it's not the same as going to matches I can assure you.

If and when anyone goes to a Liverpool v Man Utd game at Anfield you will see what I mean. You often read how the Kop spurs Liveerpool on, I haven't ever read how the fans at San Siro heve sucked a goal in for either Milan team!

I presume you've been to plenty of matches at the San Siro then??

It wasnt long ago I was in the Curva amongst the Lazio ultras even on such an unimportant game, we had a decent impact.

CR7 · Post by **CR7** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:53 pm

liverpool= shit in EPL
liverpool= lucky in europe

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:57 pm

I've only been twice, and as Liverpool weren't playing I was a neutral so it was different.

As for Liverpool being lucky in Europe please explain with intelligent comments.

sparrow · Post by **sparrow** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:18 pm

Mackem Lad wrote:And Newcastle are the lad down the street who tries really hard but you know will never amount to anything

Mackems, yoyo club. 15 points in a premiership season.

Translator · Post by **Translator** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:50 pm

e-football wrote:I can assure you my reasoning is having gone to approx 800 games live...it has shiraz all to do with TV. TV and live (leaguer) football didn't exist properly until mid 1980's!

No offence to anyone, as most of you were born in Aus and its's not your fault you haven't been to games (Due to age and location). However to say what is good and bad from watching bits on TV is laughable, it's not the same as going to matches I can assure you.

If and when anyone goes to a Liverpool v Man Utd game at Anfield you will see what I mean. You often read how the Kop spurs Liveerpool on, I haven't ever read how the fans at San Siro heve sucked a goal in for either Milan team!

Really? The majority of the time all I could hear were Inter's 1000 supporters singing louder and prouder than the Liverpool spectators barring two songs. It wasn't until the 85th minute when you jagged a goal that they finally drowned out the Inter supporters.

Best fans as voted by l'Azienda Torcida International Fans Organization an independant source for the last 15 years, guess what no English winners.

2006/07 Curva Nord Inter - Milano
2005/06 Curva Nord Inter - Milano
2004/05 Ultras Rapid - Wien
2003/04 V.I.F. Klanen VÃ¥lerenga - Oslo
2002/03 Frente Altetico Madrid
2001/02 Gradinata Sud Sampdoria
2000/01 Tifo Northstand Feyenoord
1999/00 Commando UltrÃ Marseille
1998/99 Ultras Unione - Venezia Mestre
1997/98 Triestina - Clubs
1996/97 Irriducibili - Lazio
1995/96 Section Ovest - Lausanne H.C.
1994/95 Virage Auteul - Paris St. German
1993/94 Lugano H.C.
1992/93 Irriducibili - Lazio

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:56 pm

I am not going to even try and argue with such crap. Believe what you want re the Inter fans.

Translator · Post by **Translator** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:03 pm

when was the last time Liverpool put a stop to a European fixture because they didn't like a referee decision.

Regardless who was louder point is they opposition fans shouldn't be heard for more than 10 seconds.

On the return if you want to know when Liverpool fans try to be heard, it's easy, just listen to them get whistled out.

Mind you if we cop a couple early the supporters will probably turn on their own

Hawkesy · Post by **Hawkesy** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:26 pm

Millwall are the next door neighbour with the pit ball, who threatens to kick your head in for looking at his bird.

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:08 pm

97 wrote:
e-football wrote:I can assure you my reasoning is having gone to approx 800 games live...it has shiraz all to do with TV. TV and live (leaguer) football didn't exist properly until mid 1980's!

No offence to anyone, as most of you were born in Aus and its's not your fault you haven't been to games (Due to age and location). However to say what is good and bad from watching bits on TV is laughable, it's not the same as going to matches I can assure you.

If and when anyone goes to a Liverpool v Man Utd game at Anfield you will see what I mean. You often read how the Kop spurs Liveerpool on, I haven't ever read how the fans at San Siro heve sucked a goal in for either Milan team!
Really? The majority of the time all I could hear were Inter's 1000 supporters singing louder and prouder than the Liverpool spectators barring two songs. It wasn't until the 85th minute when you jagged a goal that they finally drowned out the Inter supporters.

Best fans as voted by l'Azienda Torcida International Fans Organization an independant source for the last 15 years, guess what no English winners.

2006/07 Curva Nord Inter - Milano
2005/06 Curva Nord Inter - Milano
2004/05 Ultras Rapid - Wien
2003/04 V.I.F. Klanen VÃ¥lerenga - Oslo
2002/03 Frente Altetico Madrid
2001/02 Gradinata Sud Sampdoria
2000/01 Tifo Northstand Feyenoord
1999/00 Commando UltrÃ Marseille
1998/99 Ultras Unione - Venezia Mestre
1997/98 Triestina - Clubs
1996/97 Irriducibili - Lazio
1995/96 Section Ovest - Lausanne H.C.
1994/95 Virage Auteul - Paris St. German
1993/94 Lugano H.C.
1992/93 Irriducibili - Lazio

you're kidding right??

Translator · Post by **Translator** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:21 pm

Hawkesy wrote:Millwall are the next door neighbour with the pit ball, who threatens to kick your head in for looking at his bird.

From what I've been told about Millwall not much chance of anyone checking out their Miss' as she's not that easy on the eyes