Why oh why?

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:55 pm

e-football wrote:I know what you mean, maybe I am wrong, but I honestly believe there is more passion in a UK ground than European.

As you say some is choreographed, whereas UK it just happens.
On teh whole Europaens dont trave to away games as much as the Brits do (and we are not all hooligans), it's this sort of thing that creates that unique British atmosphere.

some good points but i just feel there is more emotion in continental leagues, i reckon the reason may be that in these leagues its not really a family atmosphere like it is in england therefore u are attracting more younger and angrier fans, if that makes sense

pires7 · Post by **pires7** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:59 pm

Maybe the English are just more civilised?

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:02 pm

pires7 wrote:in league one - midweek games though

Southend had - 500 supporters
Notts Forrest - 400 approx, a long way home though

ok thanks mate.

gotta remember as well most of these clubs have bigger supporter base and a bigger population in their town/city.

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:08 pm

Italians coming to UK is the same distance as UK to Italy

El Pibe D'Oro · Post by **El Pibe D'Oro** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:08 pm

In answer to the question I would say the answer lay somewhere in the fact that Marco Materazzi was sent off after 29 odd mins, otherwise the result may have been much different.

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:09 pm

olympiakos wrote:i prefer atmosphere that 35.000 greeks made this morning against chelsea than 75.000 man utd fans make any day of the week, thats less than half the fans making more noise, chelsea was affected by it no doubt

unless you've been to both games, you cannot honestly compare the two i.e. can't compare by what you hear on the telly

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:10 pm

Yeah, Inter would have played more offensively leavingmore space at the back, so it would have been 3 or 4 -0 instead of 2.

pires7 · Post by **pires7** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:11 pm

e-football wrote:Italians coming to UK is the same distance as UK to Italy

think of the srength of the Â£ it's worth about â‚¬1.35, hence alot more viable to travel

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:11 pm

tobes wrote:
olympiakos wrote:i prefer atmosphere that 35.000 greeks made this morning against chelsea than 75.000 man utd fans make any day of the week, thats less than half the fans making more noise, chelsea was affected by it no doubt
unless you've been to both games, you cannot honestly compare the two i.e. can't compare by what you hear on the telly

yeh i can

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:14 pm

olympiakos wrote:
tobes wrote:
olympiakos wrote:i prefer atmosphere that 35.000 greeks made this morning against chelsea than 75.000 man utd fans make any day of the week, thats less than half the fans making more noise, chelsea was affected by it no doubt
unless you've been to both games, you cannot honestly compare the two i.e. can't compare by what you hear on the telly
yeh i can

gavro

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:14 pm

e-football wrote:Italians coming to UK is the same distance as UK to Italy

talk inside UK and inside Italia

olympiakos · Post by **olympiakos** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:17 pm

tobes wrote:
olympiakos wrote:
tobes wrote:
olympiakos wrote:i prefer atmosphere that 35.000 greeks made this morning against chelsea than 75.000 man utd fans make any day of the week, thats less than half the fans making more noise, chelsea was affected by it no doubt
unless you've been to both games, you cannot honestly compare the two i.e. can't compare by what you hear on the telly
yeh i can
gavro

hahhahahaha

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:20 pm

Scudetto8687 wrote:In answer to the question I would say the answer lay somewhere in the fact that Marco Materazzi was sent off after 29 odd mins, otherwise the result may have been much different.

for the first 29 mins, i think inter touched the ball 5 times

E. Grant & Co · Post by **E. Grant & Co** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:25 pm

and two of those were goal kicks......

diegom · Post by **diegom** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:29 pm

tobes wrote:
Scudetto8687 wrote:In answer to the question I would say the answer lay somewhere in the fact that Marco Materazzi was sent off after 29 odd mins, otherwise the result may have been much different.
for the first 29 mins, i think inter touched the ball 5 times

most teams play defensive in the first half in away games!
The fact that matress was sent off after 29mins put a hold on any attcking movements in the game by inter
Liverpooooo only scored in the last 4 mins!

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:33 pm

deoesn't matter when you score

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:40 pm

diegom wrote:most teams play defensive in the first half in away games!
The fact that matress was sent off after 29mins put a hold on any attcking movements in the game by inter
Liverpooooo only scored in the last 4 mins!

so you can't keep possession of the ball when you play defensive?

you can still attack with 10 men

okay man

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:40 pm

do any of you english have RAI and actually able to watch Serie A reguarly?? no, so dont comment on it.

firstly there has only been one leg played, secondly for all we know Milan may tear the EPL leaders Aresnal a new asshole tomorrow morning, therefore making Serie A's 4th or 5th best team beating the best in england.

Have much more respect for IRR, and any other italian clubs fans and Im including the Boys Roma in this, scum that they are, than any English fans.

how the fck can you compare crowd numbers of an EPL club to a SerieA club when for example Derby have a population of over 100k whereas Empoli and Siena have less than 50k.

Facts and Stats · Post by **Facts and Stats** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:44 pm

I think you will find derby has a poulation of closer to quarter of a million.

Hawkesy · Post by **Hawkesy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:48 pm

e-football wrote:I think you will find derby has a poulation of closer to quarter of a million.

and has been pointed out, everything is closer in England. Derby have west brom, birmingham, villa, coventry, forest, notts co, leicester all within a 20 minutes of them.

Hawkesy · Post by **Hawkesy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:49 pm

Mackem Lad wrote:Hawksey has even managed to put bait on the hook and you fish are leaping out of the water pushing each other ot of the way to try and get caught first.

And there was me thinking this one just wasn't subtle enough.

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:50 pm

e-football wrote:I think you will find derby has a poulation of closer to quarter of a million.

exactly, just proves my point even more. How can a club which has 45k people to draw on expect bigger crowds than a side which has 250k??

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:58 pm

SUCKED IN ...
Over the past few years, Enagland team has been dominated in europe ... yea AC Milan won the cup last year, but we are talking about the league not the club .. cos AC Milan isn't the serie a itself .. 3 englaish team i n last four said it all last year ...

as for uefa , do i need to say more for italian team ?? lol @ u guys saying others than epl top 4, the rest is garbage .. look at ur teams others than the top 4 in europe ..

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:00 pm

diegom wrote:I love it how most epl fans on here bag italian teams and their sucesses whenever an epl betas them in europe.
Remember ManU defeated Roma but lost to Milan!

At the end of the day Serie A is much, much more beta than EPL in terms of skill level, quality players and intelligence level.

Only top 4/5 teams in england can actually play football, ther rest just hoof the ball!

thats rich coming from a napoli fan

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:02 pm

Best Of 3 Worlds wrote:
diegom wrote:I love it how most epl fans on here bag italian teams and their sucesses whenever an epl betas them in europe.
Remember ManU defeated Roma but lost to Milan!

At the end of the day Serie A is much, much more beta than EPL in terms of skill level, quality players and intelligence level.

Only top 4/5 teams in england can actually play football, ther rest just hoof the ball!
thats rich coming from a napoli fan

typical uneducated english comment

even the merde from down Via Appia knew how to play calcio properly while your palace boys were just learning how to hoof it long

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:11 pm

marco ballotta wrote:
Best Of 3 Worlds wrote:
diegom wrote:I love it how most epl fans on here bag italian teams and their sucesses whenever an epl betas them in europe.
Remember ManU defeated Roma but lost to Milan!

At the end of the day Serie A is much, much more beta than EPL in terms of skill level, quality players and intelligence level.

Only top 4/5 teams in england can actually play football, ther rest just hoof the ball!
thats rich coming from a napoli fan
typical uneducated english comment

even the merde from down Via Appia knew how to play calcio properly while your palace boys were just learning how to hoof it long

and lazio are????

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:14 pm

SocietÃ Sportiva Lazio, commonly referred to SS Lazio or simply Lazio, is an Italian professional sports club most noted for its football section, founded in 1900 and based in Rome. Lazio participate in thirty-seven sports disciplines in total, more than any other sports association in Europe.

Lazio's association footballers, who play in sky blue shirts with white shorts, have won Serie A twice, first in 1973â€“74 and then again in 1999â€“00. As well as winning four Coppa Italia trophies, Lazio have earned silverware on the European stage, winning the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup and UEFA Super Cup both in 1999. The club has spent most of their history in the top tier in Italian football, where they are currently playing in the 2007â€“08 season.

Home games are played at the Stadio Olimpico, a stadium they share with rivals AS Roma. With a capacity of over 82,000 it is the second largest of its kind in Italy; only the San Siro is bigger.

that should answer any questions about what lazio are

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:18 pm

alright let me go find aston villa's history and while im at it ill look for millwalls too.

even they are beyond lazio.

Serie A supporters are as biased and as blind as a fukn bat to believe the Serie A is better than the premier league.

EPL>>>>>La Liga>>>>>German League.. and further down the list you may find the Serie A somewhere, i dont kno you will have to search hard for it, it might be there.

Juventino · Post by **Juventino** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:21 pm

Best Of 3 Worlds wrote:alright let me go find aston villa's history and while im at it ill look for millwalls too.

even they are beyond lazio.

Serie A supporters are as biased and as blind as a shiraz bat to believe the Serie A is better than the premier league.

EPL>>>>>La Liga>>>>>German League.. and further down the list you may find the Serie A somewhere, i dont kno you will have to search hard for it, it might be there.

Ah these comments make me

Once again it is those who do not watch the league who are the first to criticise.

# 9 · Post by **# 9** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:22 pm

ill watch it if its on espn, i dont mind watchin inter or fiorentina.