The Rob Baan small sided games workshop tonight was a breath of fresh air and very motivating.
Alistair Edwards' support role of putting the dinosaurs back in their extinct existance was brilliant.
In the true essence of football we need to be led through and shown the new and better horizons. Bring it on, I am a converted disciple.
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while i appluad the vision and blue print for the future, we are at least 10 years behind even the USA. they have identified the issues and taken to ssg and 'street football' in a big way!!!
i really laughed when members of the E&D association challenged baan and edwards to divulge the names of the people who recommended the new blue print for ssg and what qualifications they had to make decisions on behalf of the footballing community here in australia.
the next step is to now convince junior coaching directors of all clubs that this is the way forward. in one sense, it would have been ideal for the presentation to have been made to these people so that they can take it back to their clubs.
my plea is for all stakeholders to challenge any 'facilitator'/director/club president of a junior team if they see that the blue print is being ignored!!
i really laughed when members of the E&D association challenged baan and edwards to divulge the names of the people who recommended the new blue print for ssg and what qualifications they had to make decisions on behalf of the footballing community here in australia.
the next step is to now convince junior coaching directors of all clubs that this is the way forward. in one sense, it would have been ideal for the presentation to have been made to these people so that they can take it back to their clubs.
my plea is for all stakeholders to challenge any 'facilitator'/director/club president of a junior team if they see that the blue print is being ignored!!
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Heard from some people that attended that it was presented very well by the FFA.
Also this was forwarded to me today from our delegate a great article to show why we need small sided games.
Johnny dep do you have any more information on this SSG?
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Below is an article written by Martin Samuel from The Times. Although It is a paper about the youth of England it is not hard to find the similarities to the Australian football culture.
The article provides a perfect prelude to the Small-Sided Games presentations.
Long and the short of growing pains that stunt England’s finest
This morning I would like to challenge Sir Trevor Brooking, and everybody involved in the organisation of youth football in this country, to a game. One condition: new rules.
The goal will be 3.057 metres high, which equates to more than 10ft, roughly one and two thirds the size of Paul Robinson, making it physically impossible to touch the bar from a standing jump. (When the Australian security forces erected a fence to protect the world leaders attending the APEC conference in Sydney this year, it was three metres high.)
The goalline will be 9.174 metres long (about 30ft) or almost five Scott Carsons laying head to toe. A goalkeeper standing in the middle would have to dive almost five metres to get his body behind the ball and adequately protect inside his posts; the present width of the whole goal is 7.32 metres.
The length of the pitch will be 150.4 metres (165 yards), placing the halfway line at 75 metres. Using these dimensions, for a goalkeeper to get the ball out of his half from a grounded goal kick, he would have to clear, without bouncing, to the midway point of the opposition half with pitch measurements as they are now. The edge of the penalty area will be extended to 20.68 metres (23 yards), almost a third again on the present space, and the width of the pitch will be 112.80 metres (124 yards), which is a greater expanse than the length of most present pitches. Everything else will be the same, including the number of players and the duration of the match.
And when this travesty of a game is finished, when everybody is exhausted and fed up and utterly frustrated with demands that are at odds with the strength of the human body and the fundamental skill-based nature of the sport, then, and only then, will we comprehend what it is like to play football as a ten-year-old in England.
At this point we may begin to realise why Blame Steve McClaren or unmotivated players for England’s shambolic path to Euro 2008 if you like, but the reason standards in English football are in decline stems directly from what we see on our parks and school fields every weekend: ten-year-old boys on a full-size pitch.
That is the problem. Not John Terry’s £135,000 a week or McClaren’s 3-5-2. You want to talk numbers, I’ve got some crackers right here: the average height of a ten-year-old boy is 4ft 7in and the height of Petr Cech, the Chelsea goalkeeper, is 6ft 5in and they are required to guard the same target and kick the same distance. And we wonder why we can’t play like the Brazilians.
The pitch dimensions for my challenge match with Brooking were not plucked out of the air. They were expanded, by ratio, so that adults could enjoy the same competitive experience as children. The idea came from a friend of mine, Ray Lee, who has worked in youth football all his life. His suggestion was to take an average ten-year-old, place him on a full-size pitch and then expand that space in proportion, to equate to the size of the average man. The playing surface filled an area of 16,800 metres. What do they say about a good midfield player covering every blade of grass? A good polo pony would struggle with that space.
In most counties, seven-a-side mini-soccer ends in the final year of junior school, at which point the under11 age group converts to football as it is played by grown-ups. Team numbers are the same and, most importantly, so are pitch measurements. As in discount clothing stores, one size fits all. The reason English football has a tradition of brick outhouse central defenders who cannot pass and perpetual motion machines in midfield without an ounce of the class of Cesc FÃ bregas is because our youth football is geared to little else.
If you are big you go at the back because you can kick it a long way and on an adult pitch, unless someone can hoof it to safety, a team can get boxed in defending their penalty area with no end in sight until the inevitable goal is scored. The ability to cover a ludicrously vast distance, box to box, is obviously essential for a midfield player, so the game favours long-legged cross-country runners, not tidy little ball players.
And then every two years, when the national team exit a tournament after losing to the first good technical team they play, we go into anguished inquests about our lack of skill and talk about quotas of foreign players and pride and passion, and all of those other red herrings, and never once think that the answer is under our noses and it is 4ft tall standing in an 8ft goal.
I watched an under11 district game on Saturday that was everything that is wrong with youth football in England. Brent versus Redbridge in the cup. There were some lovely players on both teams. Good, skilful boys with good, basic technique and some bright ideas about passing and movement, too. At half-time the score was 1-0 to Brent and Redbridge had been slightly the better team, but as the game wore on conditions took their toll.
When youth football is warped by its adult setting, over time it favours the strongest physical players and Brent had some very athletic boys. Tall, physically imposing and nice footballers. Redbridge could not get it out of their half. At this age, a goal kick is an advantage to the opposition; better than a corner, really, because all the defenders have their back to the play, all the attackers are facing it and the goalkeeper cannot clear the 30-metre distance to safety.
The game becomes a siege (and this is before the really wet weather hits, when it becomes as much fun as the retreat from Moscow). And as the goals go in, which they will do because anything high or near a post is impossible to save, which is why Michael Owen scored 79 goals in one season at the age of 11, so one side become more dispirited. Final score: Brent 6 Redbridge 0. And it started off a close game. Brent would probably have shaded it, whatever the location, but why such a huge difference by the end? The size of the task. It wears them down. It saps the strength, it strangles their skill. My lad can’t make it this week. He has an 11-plus examination. I’m hoping he’ll get more enjoyment from it.
I have another lad playing under12 football. This season a new team joined his competition. Massive kids, lots of attitude. I had them marked down as the league winners before a ball was kicked and after seven games they are two points clear. It is a power game for the preteens. And then, later in life, when everybody can wallop the ball a long way and chase it down, the sport becomes skill-based once more, except by that time we are lagging behind as a nation because we have focused all our efforts on the art of a panic-stricken clearance into touch to release the pressure.
Bring in the pitch boundaries, make the goals smaller and compulsorily cut the number of players in each team to nine until the age of 14. Games of this nature produce more scoring chances, more passes, more goals, better dribbling and more opportunities one on one. Better skill all round, in fact.
When youth coaches at Ajax first assess groups of young players, they make them dribble a ball around a square. Gradually the perimeter of the area is reduced until they can see who really knows how to control it. Then they make their selection and begin to look at other attributes. At our district trials, 75 youngsters played a series of games on a full-size pitch.
The FA is awash with money, we are told, so let it spearhead this revolution. It can be done. It is argued that schools and parks do not have the space to construct separate nine-a-side venues, but that is a weak, lazy excuse. They do not need more land. Paint the markings of the children’s pitch inside the adult pitch in a different colour (red would stand out in all seasons). No confusion there. Children and adults regularly play on ball courts and in indoor gyms that contain the field boundaries for several sports (basketball, netball, hockey, tennis), without becoming disoriented.
Brooking, the FA’s director of football development, continues to talk a good game, but where is the action? Skills programmes with supermarket sponsors do not even scratch the surface. It is the match that is the problem, not the training. There was plenty of raw talent in that district game, plenty of tricks and flicks and eye-of-the-needle passes. English children are not born with less skill than those in Spain or France. It is battered out of them by the circumstances in which they are forced to play.
If you want to know why we are a nation on tenterhooks about tonight’s match against Croatia, go to the park with a few mates, mark out an area the size of a modern hypermarket, including service and delivery space, with a bungalow at each end to act as the goals and away you go. Then you will see football through the eyes of a ten-year-old. And you may rather want to spend the weekend in front of Nickelodeon, too.
Also this was forwarded to me today from our delegate a great article to show why we need small sided games.
Johnny dep do you have any more information on this SSG?
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Below is an article written by Martin Samuel from The Times. Although It is a paper about the youth of England it is not hard to find the similarities to the Australian football culture.
The article provides a perfect prelude to the Small-Sided Games presentations.
Long and the short of growing pains that stunt England’s finest
This morning I would like to challenge Sir Trevor Brooking, and everybody involved in the organisation of youth football in this country, to a game. One condition: new rules.
The goal will be 3.057 metres high, which equates to more than 10ft, roughly one and two thirds the size of Paul Robinson, making it physically impossible to touch the bar from a standing jump. (When the Australian security forces erected a fence to protect the world leaders attending the APEC conference in Sydney this year, it was three metres high.)
The goalline will be 9.174 metres long (about 30ft) or almost five Scott Carsons laying head to toe. A goalkeeper standing in the middle would have to dive almost five metres to get his body behind the ball and adequately protect inside his posts; the present width of the whole goal is 7.32 metres.
The length of the pitch will be 150.4 metres (165 yards), placing the halfway line at 75 metres. Using these dimensions, for a goalkeeper to get the ball out of his half from a grounded goal kick, he would have to clear, without bouncing, to the midway point of the opposition half with pitch measurements as they are now. The edge of the penalty area will be extended to 20.68 metres (23 yards), almost a third again on the present space, and the width of the pitch will be 112.80 metres (124 yards), which is a greater expanse than the length of most present pitches. Everything else will be the same, including the number of players and the duration of the match.
And when this travesty of a game is finished, when everybody is exhausted and fed up and utterly frustrated with demands that are at odds with the strength of the human body and the fundamental skill-based nature of the sport, then, and only then, will we comprehend what it is like to play football as a ten-year-old in England.
At this point we may begin to realise why Blame Steve McClaren or unmotivated players for England’s shambolic path to Euro 2008 if you like, but the reason standards in English football are in decline stems directly from what we see on our parks and school fields every weekend: ten-year-old boys on a full-size pitch.
That is the problem. Not John Terry’s £135,000 a week or McClaren’s 3-5-2. You want to talk numbers, I’ve got some crackers right here: the average height of a ten-year-old boy is 4ft 7in and the height of Petr Cech, the Chelsea goalkeeper, is 6ft 5in and they are required to guard the same target and kick the same distance. And we wonder why we can’t play like the Brazilians.
The pitch dimensions for my challenge match with Brooking were not plucked out of the air. They were expanded, by ratio, so that adults could enjoy the same competitive experience as children. The idea came from a friend of mine, Ray Lee, who has worked in youth football all his life. His suggestion was to take an average ten-year-old, place him on a full-size pitch and then expand that space in proportion, to equate to the size of the average man. The playing surface filled an area of 16,800 metres. What do they say about a good midfield player covering every blade of grass? A good polo pony would struggle with that space.
In most counties, seven-a-side mini-soccer ends in the final year of junior school, at which point the under11 age group converts to football as it is played by grown-ups. Team numbers are the same and, most importantly, so are pitch measurements. As in discount clothing stores, one size fits all. The reason English football has a tradition of brick outhouse central defenders who cannot pass and perpetual motion machines in midfield without an ounce of the class of Cesc FÃ bregas is because our youth football is geared to little else.
If you are big you go at the back because you can kick it a long way and on an adult pitch, unless someone can hoof it to safety, a team can get boxed in defending their penalty area with no end in sight until the inevitable goal is scored. The ability to cover a ludicrously vast distance, box to box, is obviously essential for a midfield player, so the game favours long-legged cross-country runners, not tidy little ball players.
And then every two years, when the national team exit a tournament after losing to the first good technical team they play, we go into anguished inquests about our lack of skill and talk about quotas of foreign players and pride and passion, and all of those other red herrings, and never once think that the answer is under our noses and it is 4ft tall standing in an 8ft goal.
I watched an under11 district game on Saturday that was everything that is wrong with youth football in England. Brent versus Redbridge in the cup. There were some lovely players on both teams. Good, skilful boys with good, basic technique and some bright ideas about passing and movement, too. At half-time the score was 1-0 to Brent and Redbridge had been slightly the better team, but as the game wore on conditions took their toll.
When youth football is warped by its adult setting, over time it favours the strongest physical players and Brent had some very athletic boys. Tall, physically imposing and nice footballers. Redbridge could not get it out of their half. At this age, a goal kick is an advantage to the opposition; better than a corner, really, because all the defenders have their back to the play, all the attackers are facing it and the goalkeeper cannot clear the 30-metre distance to safety.
The game becomes a siege (and this is before the really wet weather hits, when it becomes as much fun as the retreat from Moscow). And as the goals go in, which they will do because anything high or near a post is impossible to save, which is why Michael Owen scored 79 goals in one season at the age of 11, so one side become more dispirited. Final score: Brent 6 Redbridge 0. And it started off a close game. Brent would probably have shaded it, whatever the location, but why such a huge difference by the end? The size of the task. It wears them down. It saps the strength, it strangles their skill. My lad can’t make it this week. He has an 11-plus examination. I’m hoping he’ll get more enjoyment from it.
I have another lad playing under12 football. This season a new team joined his competition. Massive kids, lots of attitude. I had them marked down as the league winners before a ball was kicked and after seven games they are two points clear. It is a power game for the preteens. And then, later in life, when everybody can wallop the ball a long way and chase it down, the sport becomes skill-based once more, except by that time we are lagging behind as a nation because we have focused all our efforts on the art of a panic-stricken clearance into touch to release the pressure.
Bring in the pitch boundaries, make the goals smaller and compulsorily cut the number of players in each team to nine until the age of 14. Games of this nature produce more scoring chances, more passes, more goals, better dribbling and more opportunities one on one. Better skill all round, in fact.
When youth coaches at Ajax first assess groups of young players, they make them dribble a ball around a square. Gradually the perimeter of the area is reduced until they can see who really knows how to control it. Then they make their selection and begin to look at other attributes. At our district trials, 75 youngsters played a series of games on a full-size pitch.
The FA is awash with money, we are told, so let it spearhead this revolution. It can be done. It is argued that schools and parks do not have the space to construct separate nine-a-side venues, but that is a weak, lazy excuse. They do not need more land. Paint the markings of the children’s pitch inside the adult pitch in a different colour (red would stand out in all seasons). No confusion there. Children and adults regularly play on ball courts and in indoor gyms that contain the field boundaries for several sports (basketball, netball, hockey, tennis), without becoming disoriented.
Brooking, the FA’s director of football development, continues to talk a good game, but where is the action? Skills programmes with supermarket sponsors do not even scratch the surface. It is the match that is the problem, not the training. There was plenty of raw talent in that district game, plenty of tricks and flicks and eye-of-the-needle passes. English children are not born with less skill than those in Spain or France. It is battered out of them by the circumstances in which they are forced to play.
If you want to know why we are a nation on tenterhooks about tonight’s match against Croatia, go to the park with a few mates, mark out an area the size of a modern hypermarket, including service and delivery space, with a bungalow at each end to act as the goals and away you go. Then you will see football through the eyes of a ten-year-old. And you may rather want to spend the weekend in front of Nickelodeon, too.
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I think this guy could have been watching a school match.
Having coached in England for several years, my experience doesn't correspond with what he is saying.
The following is more in line with my experience.
The Mini-Soccer Rules as laid down by the Football Association are to be adhered to at all times.[/b](i)
Under 7’s and Under 8’s
The minimum pitch size shall be 18.30 metres (20 yards) x 27.45 metres (30 yards).
The maximum pitch size shall be 27.45 metres (30 yards) x 45.75 metres (50 yards).
(ii) Under 9’s and Under 10’s
The minimum pitch size shall be 27.45 metres (30 yards) x 45.75 metres (50 yards).
The maximum pitch size shall be 36.60 metres (40 yards) x 54.90 metres (60 yards).
(iii) Under 11’s and Under 12’s
The minimum pitch size shall be 36.60 metres (40 yards) x 54.90 metres (60 yards).
The maximum pitch size shall be 45.75 metres (50 yards) x 80.00 metres (84 yards).
(iv) The suggested goal size for 5, 6 and 7-a-side is 12’ wide x 6’ high.
(v) The suggested goal size for 9-a-side is 15’ wide x 7’ high.
(vi) The pass back rule is to be played at all times, and at all age groups.
(vii) Squad Sizes
5 v 5 Squad NOT to exceed 10 Players.
6 v 6 Squad NOT to exceed 12 Players.
7 v 7 Squad NOT to exceed 14 Players.
9 v 9 Squad NOT to exceed 18 Players.
This was taken from the MILTON KEYNES & DISTRICT JUNIOR 7’s
FOOTBALL LEAGUE handbook. Since the FA has launched the Full time website, my local leagues websites have dissappeared.
I come from near Manchester and coached in several leagues in the area and all were run along these lines. Although 11 and 12's have been phased into the small sided games since I left.
If this guy had bothered to read the FA's mini soccer handbook, he might have had some idea about what's really happening instead of trying to do some sensationalistic journalism.
http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/1CEDC ... ndbook.pdf
Having coached in England for several years, my experience doesn't correspond with what he is saying.
The following is more in line with my experience.
The Mini-Soccer Rules as laid down by the Football Association are to be adhered to at all times.[/b](i)
Under 7’s and Under 8’s
The minimum pitch size shall be 18.30 metres (20 yards) x 27.45 metres (30 yards).
The maximum pitch size shall be 27.45 metres (30 yards) x 45.75 metres (50 yards).
(ii) Under 9’s and Under 10’s
The minimum pitch size shall be 27.45 metres (30 yards) x 45.75 metres (50 yards).
The maximum pitch size shall be 36.60 metres (40 yards) x 54.90 metres (60 yards).
(iii) Under 11’s and Under 12’s
The minimum pitch size shall be 36.60 metres (40 yards) x 54.90 metres (60 yards).
The maximum pitch size shall be 45.75 metres (50 yards) x 80.00 metres (84 yards).
(iv) The suggested goal size for 5, 6 and 7-a-side is 12’ wide x 6’ high.
(v) The suggested goal size for 9-a-side is 15’ wide x 7’ high.
(vi) The pass back rule is to be played at all times, and at all age groups.
(vii) Squad Sizes
5 v 5 Squad NOT to exceed 10 Players.
6 v 6 Squad NOT to exceed 12 Players.
7 v 7 Squad NOT to exceed 14 Players.
9 v 9 Squad NOT to exceed 18 Players.
This was taken from the MILTON KEYNES & DISTRICT JUNIOR 7’s
FOOTBALL LEAGUE handbook. Since the FA has launched the Full time website, my local leagues websites have dissappeared.
I come from near Manchester and coached in several leagues in the area and all were run along these lines. Although 11 and 12's have been phased into the small sided games since I left.
If this guy had bothered to read the FA's mini soccer handbook, he might have had some idea about what's really happening instead of trying to do some sensationalistic journalism.
http://www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/1CEDC ... ndbook.pdf
PDF file here; http://www.mediafire.com/?3edltzu5nmr once open click on "Click here to start download.." and save the PDF file to your computer, then open.Brian32 wrote:Heard from some people that attended that it was presented very well by the FFA.
Also this was forwarded to me today from our delegate a great article to show why we need small sided games.
Johnny dep do you have any more information on this SSG?
Below is a sample. The document has 28 pages with diagrams.
Small Sided Games wrote:Football Development
Game Development
- - Improve overall technical standard of Australian player base
- Design and oversee delivery of the best participation experience in Australian sport
- Identify, attract and retain more and better athletes particularly in the 12-16 age group
- Convert participants to life-long fans of the Australian game
- Increase the number of accredited coaches and referees
- Ensure facilities keep pace with demandTalented Player Development
- Educate, support, resource and service
all football participants.
- Participation (e.g. Small Sided Games)
- National Skills Test
- Coach Education
- Referee Education
- Club Development
- Facilities
- Regulations
- Schools Football
- Inclusive Initiatives
- Indigenous Programs
- Women’s Football
- FutsalPublication of Football Development Plan - November 2007
- Provide a defined pathway for talented players,
coaches and referees with associated high quality
programs and resources
- National Teams
- National Training Centres
- National Youth Championships
- National Futsal Championships
- National Curriculum
- National Skills Test
- Coach Scholarships
- Player Scholarships
- Women’s National League
- National Youth League
- AIS
Small Sided Games Rollout - Ongoing
National Coaching Conference - 2008
Targeted Coach Program - 2008
National Skills Test - 2008
My Football Club Rollout - 2008
Women's National League - 2008
Youth/Reserve League Solution - 2008
Review of Referee Development - 2008
Benefits of SSG
Small Sided Games are played and endorsed throughout; England, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland, Germany, France, Korea, USA, Capital Football, Football Northern Territory and Ku-ring-gai DSA to name a few.
The demonstrated benefits of SSG’s over the 11 v 11 game based on observational research of existing successful SSG models can be seen below;
- • Far more repeated touches of the ball by all players
• More touches throughout all areas of the pitch
• More passes attempted and in a forward direction
• More attacking 1v1s, final third and penalty area entries
• Repeated decision making experience
• The ball is in play far more
• Repeated experience of basic tactical situations
• Active participation is directly related to increased fitness and enjoyment
• More experience in all phases of the game. There is less hiding or dominant player hogging the ball. Every child has to participate in all facets of the game, attack and defend. The emphasis is on PLAYER DEVELOPMENT
• Better success rate leads to improved quality of play, self esteem and player retention
• The game is easier to understand
• Freedom of expression – no positions in early stages
• Less perceived stress on the player
• 80% of children believed that they touched the ball more often in the small-sided game
• Less perceived pressure from coaches and parents
• Children enjoyed the progressive and sequential game formats
Statistics
Small Sided Games studies of young football players in England, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland, Germany, France, Korea and USA provided the following information between 4 v 4, 7 v 7 & 11 v 11;
- • Players touch ball five times more in 4 v4, 50 % more in 7 v 7 than in 11 v 11
• Players attempted three times more 1 v 1’s in 4 v 4, two times more 1 v 1’s in 7 v 7 than in 11 v 11
• Goals scored on average every 1.5 mins. in 4 v 4, 3.6 mins. in 7 v 7 & 8 mins in 11 v 11
• Technical skills performed by a goalkeeper is between two & four times more in 7 v 7 than in 11 v 11
• Ball is out of play 8% of the match in 4 v 4, 14% in 7 v 7 and 34% in 11 v 11
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mooroffside
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This is another interesting article.
http://www.mayouthsoccer.org/download/4 ... r_0106.pdf
It does a questions and answers on the reasons.
http://www.mayouthsoccer.org/download/4 ... r_0106.pdf
It does a questions and answers on the reasons.