Calls for women's A-League

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:21 am

i wud love to see a womens a league but i think the mens reserves come first.. no offence to anyone but i think more people would go out and watch the reserves b4 they go out and watch a womens match..

Tottenham Hotspur · Post by **Tottenham Hotspur** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:57 am

Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

gubs · Post by **gubs** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:06 am

why not have the youth league as a winter league

n then join the mens n womens as one in the summer?

is that at all possible?

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:12 am

OR... women's league in the winter, and mens seniors + reserves together, so that the ressies can actually play in the senior fixtures too

gubs · Post by **gubs** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:28 pm

yeh one or the other

Judge Judy · Post by **Judge Judy** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:52 pm

go boys yay, they are cute!

but that's the whole point of reserves, to be on standby for the seniors ._.

beaches · Post by **beaches** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:52 pm

I still have a suspicion that nobody wants to put the horse before the cart.
(not just this topic also the other one relating to SASI/Sensation)
When the local competition has a strong base, only then going round in circles will stop.

Ok if clubs are not receptive to a Super League., then try a zonal idea mid week. North South East West Central and an under 18 Junior team.

Play over 10 weeks, preferably before State Team selections, all players in including SASI from previous year.

Do away with trials because these games would be full on,especially knowing what may come at the end of it. The SASI and State coaches could be employed to coach these teams. So thats all in as well.

Initially players would play for the areas they live in or originated from.). Then if a Zone had more than 17 players, let them play for the zone next door who may not have enough quality players.

Then they can all go back to their clubs on Sunday.

Out of all this should come more competitive State teams and ultimately an Adelaide Sensation with top credentials.

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:59 pm

Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

gubs · Post by **gubs** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:09 pm

but u guys are missing the whole point of starting up the womens league. if we keep resorting to the whole overused excuse of "there is no interest in womens football" then we will never get anywhere. This is why it is important, coz there is NO interest but thats entirely due to the fact that many people have never seen a game of womens football in their lives

who knows there isnt more interest out there. sitting back n criticising all efforts to make the womens game better isnt helping. yes a youth/reserves league would benefit too, however the sport is for all and i think both sexes should be given a go

Tottenham Hotspur · Post by **Tottenham Hotspur** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:10 pm

mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?

gubs · Post by **gubs** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:14 pm

i doubt the women will get paid. all they want is a comp

the world of womens football is much much different to that of mens football....n not just the genitalia

ecky_8 · Post by **ecky_8** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:14 pm

beaches wrote:I still have a suspicion that nobody wants to put the horse before the cart.
(not just this topic also the other one relating to SASI/Sensation)
When the local competition has a strong base, only then going round in circles will stop.

Ok if clubs are not receptive to a Super League., then try a zonal idea mid week. North South East West Central and an under 18 Junior team.

Play over 10 weeks, preferably before State Team selections, all players in including SASI from previous year.

Do away with trials because these games would be full on,especially knowing what may come at the end of it. The SASI and State coaches could be employed to coach these teams. So thats all in as well.

Initially players would play for the areas they live in or originated from.). Then if a Zone had more than 17 players, let them play for the zone next door who may not have enough quality players.

Then they can all go back to their clubs on Sunday.

Out of all this should come more competitive State teams and ultimately an Adelaide Sensation with top credentials.

r u doing away with the development squads as well? if not players wld b trainin with their clubs, zone, posibbly SASI. n state as well.

KrAzY · Post by **KrAzY** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:19 pm

Did the sensation team cop much abuse when playing infront of united mark.1 ??

Tottenham Hotspur · Post by **Tottenham Hotspur** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:23 pm

gubs wrote:i doubt the women will get paid. all they want is a comp

the world of womens football is much much different to that of mens football....n not just the genitalia

That maybe true. But they still have to exist in this world. With or without being paid there are costs involved which has to get paid by someone.
If you have not the numbers to pay for a league to exist then the only way would be to "piggy back" onto something that is already there

beaches · Post by **beaches** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:20 pm

Ecky 8, There would be no state training because the State squads would not be picked until the end of the competition. The Under 18 team in the Comp would be like a Junior SASI/Sensation. There would be no full on SASI for 3 months. Thats what I meant by all in. How much training girls do other than the 2 games a week (one Zone and One Club.) would probably be one night with their club a week and one night with the Zone team. Thats a pretty heavy workload. Depends how committed the player is.

beaches · Post by **beaches** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:49 pm

Come on guys maybe stepping up to the plate in a one in all in 6 Team League will sort the merry go round out. Player and coach wise.

This has become an endless argument.

My Opinion is for the betterment of womens soccer, not for any personal axegrinding.

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:19 pm

Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?

lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:50 pm

mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?
lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..

toros men need a decent keeper, come out to us!

gubs · Post by **gubs** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:07 pm

Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
gubs wrote:i doubt the women will get paid. all they want is a comp

the world of womens football is much much different to that of mens football....n not just the genitalia
That maybe true. But they still have to exist in this world. With or without being paid there are costs involved which has to get paid by someone.
If you have not the numbers to pay for a league to exist then the only way would be to "piggy back" onto something that is already there

well we were funded til someone took our comp away. money i dont think is the issue, the money is there. we just need a comp to play in!!

Tottenham Hotspur · Post by **Tottenham Hotspur** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:21 pm

BillShankly wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?
lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..
toros men need a decent keeper, come out to us!

And your asking him?????

Actually hes very talented, he could keep and ref at the same time
No goals would be scored thats for sure. He would keep calling offside all the time

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:55 pm

Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
BillShankly wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?
lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..
toros men need a decent keeper, come out to us!

And your asking him?????
Actually hes very talented, he could keep and ref at the same time
No goals would be scored thats for sure. He would keep calling offside all the time

you coached him at enfield didnt you? 17s?

Tottenham Hotspur · Post by **Tottenham Hotspur** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:49 am

BillShankly wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
BillShankly wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?
lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..
toros men need a decent keeper, come out to us!

And your asking him?????
Actually hes very talented, he could keep and ref at the same time
No goals would be scored thats for sure. He would keep calling offside all the time
you coached him at enfield didnt you? 17s?

Na, I was doing the 19s when he was in the 17s at Enfield
.

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:15 am

keep your nose out of it bill.. lol

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:16 am

Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
BillShankly wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:Put in a mens reserve league that play prior to the A league. That has to be done first.
But maybe at the same time put in a national womens league that play prior to the Res league. Why?
a. the possible abuse that the women may get from spectators would be greatly reduced due to smaller numbers of supporters being at the grounds.
b. there simply is not enough money around to support a womens league totally separate from the mens. If the FFA are struggling to make a profit from the A league that is improving (generally speaking) every season, then how in the world would a separate womens league survive when travelling costs, insurance, accomodation, salaries etc etc come into the equation.
c. all womens teams in the national comp be affliated with the mens teams from the A league. Because all the marketing etc has already been done. It saves money.
d. and finally we need soccer/football to continue to build in this country and its not going to on the back of a womens league so that is why you have to have a mens Res league before a womens league, to give the national team more strength/depth. player exposure all that stuff

totally agree with u there mr.tottenham lol..

Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?
lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..
toros men need a decent keeper, come out to us!

And your asking him?????
Actually hes very talented, he could keep and ref at the same time
No goals would be scored thats for sure. He would keep calling offside all the time

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:52 am

Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
BillShankly wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
BillShankly wrote:
mattieg1200 wrote:
Tottenham Hotspur wrote:
Always said that you are intelligent

Reffing next season or playing?
lol i always sed u were a smartass lol

umm maybe both.. undecided as yet..
toros men need a decent keeper, come out to us!

And your asking him?????
Actually hes very talented, he could keep and ref at the same time
No goals would be scored thats for sure. He would keep calling offside all the time
you coached him at enfield didnt you? 17s?
Na, I was doing the 19s when he was in the 17s at Enfield
.

ahh i coached birks 17s against him, the little bastard played out of his skin

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:50 am

lol.. well u still won 1-0 wat u complainin bout.. fikken off the post that goal.. hated it..

BillShankly · Post by **BillShankly** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:02 am

mattieg1200 wrote:lol.. well u still won 1-0 wat u complainin bout.. fikken off the post that goal.. hated it..

you forget about the 2-2 draw as well!

mattieg1200 · Post by **mattieg1200** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:08 am

yer that stupid penalty came off my line my ass lol.. then he still missed it lol..

Tottenham Hotspur · Post by **Tottenham Hotspur** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:56 am

if you had looked closely it was his twin in goals

gubs · Post by **gubs** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:08 pm

back to topic, kthx