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They had a night game.Laziale wrote:i wouldn't be surprised, Real's ultras are friends with ours. but when was the match?? must have made the banner pretty quick. Other Serie A clubs took thiers down as a sign of respect to Sandri.Juventino wrote:I'm fairly sure I saw a 'Gabriele RIP' banner at the Real Madrid game last night.
prob the best opinion i read about the whole incident. from a Lazio forum.
I think this incident and the reactions to it simply expose what has been going on for a long time between the Ultras and the police. There are two sides here, it is clearly not just the Ultras to blame for it. (Although they are by no means excused from fault.) We saw what happened in Catania earlier this year and many of us thought about how these hooligans needed to be cracked down on. I'm not trying to marginalize the death of Filippo Raciti, but now we can see this goes both ways. The police and their often heavy-handed tactics can be just as dangerous as the Ultras themselves. I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else say this, but who uses guns with live ammunition to break up a bunch of guys in a fistfight? Ultras culture and hooliganism in Italy needs to be reformed, but so does police handling of it. Right now the two feed into each other and we can quite clearly see the tragic results.
The two groups shouldn't have been fighting, of course, but I don't see how that can justify what has happened here today. Some of the logic that goes through the brains of people here astounds me, honestly.
Even if fans do brawl and start trouble, there is no reason someone should die.
I agree.Laziale wrote:prob the best opinion i read about the whole incident. from a Lazio forum.
I think this incident and the reactions to it simply expose what has been going on for a long time between the Ultras and the police. There are two sides here, it is clearly not just the Ultras to blame for it. (Although they are by no means excused from fault.) We saw what happened in Catania earlier this year and many of us thought about how these hooligans needed to be cracked down on. I'm not trying to marginalize the death of Filippo Raciti, but now we can see this goes both ways. The police and their often heavy-handed tactics can be just as dangerous as the Ultras themselves. I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else say this, but who uses guns with live ammunition to break up a bunch of guys in a fistfight? Ultras culture and hooliganism in Italy needs to be reformed, but so does police handling of it. Right now the two feed into each other and we can quite clearly see the tragic results.
The two groups shouldn't have been fighting, of course, but I don't see how that can justify what has happened here today. Some of the logic that goes through the brains of people here astounds me, honestly.
Even if fans do brawl and start trouble, there is no reason someone should die.
my opinion, copy + paste
- It was NOT a planned meet up. Lazio ultras were on their way to Milan when they saw a small group of Juve fans (not the whole ultra group) and attacked them.
-The cops have no idea how to manage situations over there and always act more like an army at war rather than keeping the peace.
-Gabriele was one of Rome's top DJs and mates with most of the Lazio team and staff. Particularly Lorenzo de Silvestri, they were close mates.
-Atalanta, Milan and Roma - three of our greatest rivals joined with us in taking down banners and attacking la polizia. That tells you who the real enemy is in Italy.
-THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL PROBLEM BUT MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH ITALIAN SOCIETY. and delfino, ignore the fuckheads giving shit to Italian football because they have no idea/ the real issue is the poor bloke who died supporting the best football club in the world and having his whole life taken away from him. as well as the behaviour of the police.
- It was NOT a planned meet up. Lazio ultras were on their way to Milan when they saw a small group of Juve fans (not the whole ultra group) and attacked them.
-The cops have no idea how to manage situations over there and always act more like an army at war rather than keeping the peace.
-Gabriele was one of Rome's top DJs and mates with most of the Lazio team and staff. Particularly Lorenzo de Silvestri, they were close mates.
-Atalanta, Milan and Roma - three of our greatest rivals joined with us in taking down banners and attacking la polizia. That tells you who the real enemy is in Italy.
-THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL PROBLEM BUT MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH ITALIAN SOCIETY. and delfino, ignore the fuckheads giving shit to Italian football because they have no idea/ the real issue is the poor bloke who died supporting the best football club in the world and having his whole life taken away from him. as well as the behaviour of the police.
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don't worry mate i wontLaziale wrote:my opinion, copy + paste
- It was NOT a planned meet up. Lazio ultras were on their way to Milan when they saw a small group of Juve fans (not the whole ultra group) and attacked them.
-The cops have no idea how to manage situations over there and always act more like an army at war rather than keeping the peace.
-Gabriele was one of Rome's top DJs and mates with most of the Lazio team and staff. Particularly Lorenzo de Silvestri, they were close mates.
-Atalanta, Milan and Roma - three of our greatest rivals joined with us in taking down banners and attacking la polizia. That tells you who the real enemy is in Italy.
-THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL PROBLEM BUT MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH ITALIAN SOCIETY. and delfino, ignore the fuckheads giving cabernet to Italian football because they have no idea/ the real issue is the poor bloke who died supporting the best football club in the world and having his whole life taken away from him. as well as the behaviour of the police.
haha copy and paste from the MV forum.Rigoni 10 wrote:don't worry mate i wontLaziale wrote:my opinion, copy + paste
- It was NOT a planned meet up. Lazio ultras were on their way to Milan when they saw a small group of Juve fans (not the whole ultra group) and attacked them.
-The cops have no idea how to manage situations over there and always act more like an army at war rather than keeping the peace.
-Gabriele was one of Rome's top DJs and mates with most of the Lazio team and staff. Particularly Lorenzo de Silvestri, they were close mates.
-Atalanta, Milan and Roma - three of our greatest rivals joined with us in taking down banners and attacking la polizia. That tells you who the real enemy is in Italy.
-THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL PROBLEM BUT MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH ITALIAN SOCIETY. and delfino, ignore the fuckheads giving cabernet to Italian football because they have no idea/ the real issue is the poor bloke who died supporting the best football club in the world and having his whole life taken away from him. as well as the behaviour of the police.
nah, i told about 3 or 4 people to get fucked today. why would u make fun of a bloke's death just to take a cheap shot at Serie A??
Cheap shots like this -Laziale wrote:haha copy and paste from the MV forum.Rigoni 10 wrote:don't worry mate i wontLaziale wrote:my opinion, copy + paste
- It was NOT a planned meet up. Lazio ultras were on their way to Milan when they saw a small group of Juve fans (not the whole ultra group) and attacked them.
-The cops have no idea how to manage situations over there and always act more like an army at war rather than keeping the peace.
-Gabriele was one of Rome's top DJs and mates with most of the Lazio team and staff. Particularly Lorenzo de Silvestri, they were close mates.
-Atalanta, Milan and Roma - three of our greatest rivals joined with us in taking down banners and attacking la polizia. That tells you who the real enemy is in Italy.
-THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL PROBLEM BUT MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH ITALIAN SOCIETY. and delfino, ignore the fuckheads giving cabernet to Italian football because they have no idea/ the real issue is the poor bloke who died supporting the best football club in the world and having his whole life taken away from him. as well as the behaviour of the police.
nah, i told about 3 or 4 people to get fucked today. why would u make fun of a bloke's death just to take a cheap shot at Serie A??
That is probably one of the most ignorant and stupid things I have ever read.barbarez01 wrote:stop serie A forever no one will care.. not even the people in italy.. the crowds are terrible..
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Juventino wrote:Cheap shots like this -Laziale wrote:haha copy and paste from the MV forum.Rigoni 10 wrote:don't worry mate i wontLaziale wrote:my opinion, copy + paste
- It was NOT a planned meet up. Lazio ultras were on their way to Milan when they saw a small group of Juve fans (not the whole ultra group) and attacked them.
-The cops have no idea how to manage situations over there and always act more like an army at war rather than keeping the peace.
-Gabriele was one of Rome's top DJs and mates with most of the Lazio team and staff. Particularly Lorenzo de Silvestri, they were close mates.
-Atalanta, Milan and Roma - three of our greatest rivals joined with us in taking down banners and attacking la polizia. That tells you who the real enemy is in Italy.
-THIS IS NOT A FOOTBALL PROBLEM BUT MORE OF A PROBLEM WITH ITALIAN SOCIETY. and delfino, ignore the fuckheads giving cabernet to Italian football because they have no idea/ the real issue is the poor bloke who died supporting the best football club in the world and having his whole life taken away from him. as well as the behaviour of the police.
nah, i told about 3 or 4 people to get fucked today. why would u make fun of a bloke's death just to take a cheap shot at Serie A??
That is probably one of the most ignorant and stupid things I have ever read.barbarez01 wrote:stop serie A forever no one will care.. not even the people in italy.. the crowds are terrible..
Sejad Salihovic!!
Who's that dying on the runway?LFTWNG11 wrote:dont be a fuckhead cunt... cause we can be jsut as dirty and mention planes and ice and stuffmanU4life wrote:lol at the stupid eyetals
Who's that dying in the snow?
It's Matt Busby and his boys
making such a fucking noise
coz they can't get their aeroplane to go!
i only seen eyetalians running amok on the news, havent really read through the thread mate
for those who are interested... Gabriele's myspace was posted on a lazio forum
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =181839228
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =181839228
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