Fergie support for Blatter stance on imports

[King Ledley]

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ENGLISH PLAYERS BEING TOO EXPENSIVE, YOUVE GOT THE MONEY NOW, SO LETS SEE WTF arseNE WILL DO

[Juventino]

98 was a second round loss.

And if you are to mention English red cards as a disadvantage, yet not mention you had a man advantage for over 30 mins vs Brazil in 02?

But in any case, it is not as if 10 men cannot win and it seems like you are blaming those losses on having 10 men.

I didn't mention it because to be honest I have no recollection of the sending off. Who? and for what?

also not saying that 10 men cannot win but it's certainly a disadvantage.

Ronaldinho was sent off just after he scored. Can't remember what he did, but it may have been a straight red (someone correct me if I am wrong).

[pires7]

Most big 4 managers are sore losers!
Gotta respect a man like Sven, takes defeat graciously, won't bad mouth other teams in the press, and has come in and lifted the quality and style of man city!

Ronnie stomped on Danny Mills to get the red card

[pires7]

Wenger quipped: "For the rest, I am ready to take the blame for all the problems of English football."

The Arsenal manager, though, sees no reason for the current regulations to be altered.

"I always felt that sport rewards quality and does not hide behind artificial rules," he said.

"You can say as well to compete with the best players in the world is a chance to improve your level.

"In Europe, we are very rigid and difficult to move forwards because we are all countries and are a bit conservative."

Wenger insisted the influx of foreigners into the Premier League was merely a reflection of the modern world at large.

He reflected: "If you organise a golf tournament, people go to watch Tiger Woods, whether that is in Scotland or anywhere else.

"When you go to Wimbledon, you want to see Federer. That is what people demand today.

"The world has moved on. People demand to see the best in the world and you cannot get them to watch a level down anymore.

"The real question is how can England take the opportunity to produce world-class players?

So if fergusen, jose were coaching all these english players, maybe they are to blame for the state of the national team! Wasn't he behind the desicion to stop paul scholes from playing for england??

[delfino_1936]

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ENGLISH PLAYERS BEING TOO EXPENSIVE, YOUVE GOT THE MONEY NOW, SO LETS SEE WTF arseNE WILL DO

spudkid, obviously you don't understand what top managers do especially cause your club hasn't had one.

Arsene will not throw money around for no reason like many other clubs do, he'll buy the players that he feels he needs. At the moment i can't really think of a position where we really need to strengthen our team. maybe another striker but i don't really feel confident in saying that.

[delfino_1936]

Wenger quipped: "For the rest, I am ready to take the blame for all the problems of English football."

The Arsenal manager, though, sees no reason for the current regulations to be altered.

"I always felt that sport rewards quality and does not hide behind artificial rules," he said.

"You can say as well to compete with the best players in the world is a chance to improve your level.

"In Europe, we are very rigid and difficult to move forwards because we are all countries and are a bit conservative."

Wenger insisted the influx of foreigners into the Premier League was merely a reflection of the modern world at large.

He reflected: "If you organise a golf tournament, people go to watch Tiger Woods, whether that is in Scotland or anywhere else.

"When you go to Wimbledon, you want to see Federer. That is what people demand today.

"The world has moved on. People demand to see the best in the world and you cannot get them to watch a level down anymore.

"The real question is how can England take the opportunity to produce world-class players?

So if fergusen, jose were coaching all these english players, maybe they are to blame for the state of the national team! Wasn't he behind the desicion to stop paul scholes from playing for england??

What Wenger just said is very very treu

[BAGGIO 15]

This is not a who supports which club justifies the issue or debunks it. It is the issue regarding the quantity of non domestic players in professional teams today. Not a Spurs Arsenal free for all.

[FerrariTifosi27]

A Champion team will ALWAYS beat a team of Champions!


If FIFA passes the law, then teams will have to manage a team of local as well as foeirn players.
So asssssnal is stuffed!

Also, When has assssssnal last won the UCL??????
And ur comment about mediocre players winning world cups??? I though we are talking about Claub teams!!!!!

Arsenal have been the 2nd most successful team in the Premiership since 1992 thanks to quality bought in by Mr. Wenger.

World Cup winners like Gilberto, Henry, Vieira, Petit etc that played for us.

that's what he is saying, players like that won't be able to play in the top leagues cause of the new law.

the mediocre players he is talking about are the English ones that will be protected by the law

i agree with rigoni on that one

[barbarez01]

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ENGLISH PLAYERS BEING TOO EXPENSIVE, YOUVE GOT THE MONEY NOW, SO LETS SEE WTF arseNE WILL DO

its not only english players being too expensive.. english players are clearly not good enough atm as you know with your class purchase of D.Bent...

[BAGGIO 15]

A Champion team will ALWAYS beat a team of Champions!


If FIFA passes the law, then teams will have to manage a team of local as well as foeirn players.
So asssssnal is stuffed!

Also, When has assssssnal last won the UCL??????
And ur comment about mediocre players winning world cups??? I though we are talking about Claub teams!!!!!

Arsenal have been the 2nd most successful team in the Premiership since 1992 thanks to quality bought in by Mr. Wenger.

World Cup winners like Gilberto, Henry, Vieira, Petit etc that played for us.

that's what he is saying, players like that won't be able to play in the top leagues cause of the new law.

the mediocre players he is talking about are the English ones that will be protected by the law

i agree with rigoni on that one

Your joking. of coarse they will play in the top leagues as only the best will be brought in. In the 80's there were 3 non domestic players on the pitch for one side at anyone time. That would mean the best will always move to the best leagues, just not every man and his dog like it is at the moment.

Would it be good if AU was full of non Australians and Burns was coming off the bench ala Walcott. I would be to happy. Same thing.

[FerrariTifosi27]

A Champion team will ALWAYS beat a team of Champions!


If FIFA passes the law, then teams will have to manage a team of local as well as foeirn players.
So asssssnal is stuffed!

Also, When has assssssnal last won the UCL??????
And ur comment about mediocre players winning world cups??? I though we are talking about Claub teams!!!!!

Arsenal have been the 2nd most successful team in the Premiership since 1992 thanks to quality bought in by Mr. Wenger.

World Cup winners like Gilberto, Henry, Vieira, Petit etc that played for us.

that's what he is saying, players like that won't be able to play in the top leagues cause of the new law.

the mediocre players he is talking about are the English ones that will be protected by the law

i agree with rigoni on that one

Your joking. of coarse they will play in the top leagues as only the best will be brought in. In the 80's there were 3 non domestic players on the pitch for one side at anyone time. That would mean the best will always move to the best leagues, just not every man and his dog like it is at the moment.

Would it be good if AU was full of non Australians and Burns was coming off the bench ala Walcott. I would be to happy. Same thing.

of course the big players will play in the top leagues, they wouldn't play in lower class leagues. Inter would have been stuffed in the 1980's

[pires7]

A Champion team will ALWAYS beat a team of Champions!


If FIFA passes the law, then teams will have to manage a team of local as well as foeirn players.
So asssssnal is stuffed!

Also, When has assssssnal last won the UCL??????
And ur comment about mediocre players winning world cups??? I though we are talking about Claub teams!!!!!

Arsenal have been the 2nd most successful team in the Premiership since 1992 thanks to quality bought in by Mr. Wenger.

World Cup winners like Gilberto, Henry, Vieira, Petit etc that played for us.

that's what he is saying, players like that won't be able to play in the top leagues cause of the new law.

the mediocre players he is talking about are the English ones that will be protected by the law

i agree with rigoni on that one

Your joking. of coarse they will play in the top leagues as only the best will be brought in. In the 80's there were 3 non domestic players on the pitch for one side at anyone time. That would mean the best will always move to the best leagues, just not every man and his dog like it is at the moment.

Would it be good if AU was full of non Australians and Burns was coming off the bench ala Walcott. I would be to happy. Same thing.

You get 3 elano's to the pom, you get 3 elano's to the pom!

[Hawkesy]

You get 3 elano's to the pom, you get 3 elano's to the pom!

Why is it I can't say cunt, wanker or fuck on this forum but racism is allowed.

POM - Prisoner of Mother England
POHM - Prisoner of His Majesty
So the aussies are the pohm's/

So if you are going to paraphrase barmy army songs I'll retaliate:

I came her with a back pack on
You with a ball and chain.

[barbarez01]

You get 3 elano's to the pom, you get 3 elano's to the pom!

Why is it I can't say merlot, wanker or shiraz on this forum but racism is allowed.

POM - Prisoner of Mother England
POHM - Prisoner of His Majesty
So the aussies are the pohm's/

So if you are going to paraphrase barmy army songs I'll retaliate:

I came her with a back pack on
You with a ball and chain.

[ruud]

If this rule goes through then the French league will start to rip it up! Most of the world best players hail from there anyway
Imagine putting
viera, henry, saha, pires, sanga, clichy, flamini, evra, thuram, ribery, malouda, anelka, mexes, gallas, govou, sangol, silvestre, pique and makelele + other good payers back in the french league! Four of each of those to a few teams and the league would be awesome!

thats the point of the rule change

3 leagues wont own all of football

[diegom]

You get 3 elano's to the pom, you get 3 elano's to the pom!

Why is it I can't say merlot, wanker or shiraz on this forum but racism is allowed.

POM - Prisoner of Mother England
POHM - Prisoner of His Majesty
So the aussies are the pohm's/

So if you are going to paraphrase barmy army songs I'll retaliate:

I came her with a back pack on
You with a ball and chain.


U referring to the Australian kids???
What about european kids??

[BAGGIO 15]

If this rule goes through then the French league will start to rip it up! Most of the world best players hail from there anyway
Imagine putting
viera, henry, saha, pires, sanga, clichy, flamini, evra, thuram, ribery, malouda, anelka, mexes, gallas, govou, sangol, silvestre, pique and makelele + other good payers back in the french league! Four of each of those to a few teams and the league would be awesome!

thats the point of the rule change

3 leagues wont own all of football

I agree, the talent would go to more leagues.
It will effect Brazil as instead of 10 000 players playing abroad only 5000 would
They are the country benefitting the most as they are improving their depth and taking money from all over the world back to Brazil.

[pires7]

It will effect Brazil as instead of 10 000 players playing abroad only 5000 would

[Translator]

Inter would have been stuffed in the 1980's

We did fine, only started having problems when Moggi came around

Whole foreigner debate is getting boring, If Inter & Arsenal are the only two teams that are doing it then I suggest more teams try it as both seem to have the points on the board.

Baggio you mention Burns playing on the bench for AU if we had an influx of foreigners, if playing more foreigners meant a player like Burns sits on the bench I'd be happy as it meant the standard here is getting better.

Most of you also fail to realise the affect this role will have on our Socceroos. Considering 98% of our World Cup squad is made up of Australians that learn their trade overseas I would hate to think what our national team will be like 10 years after such a rule is passed.

And Diego why would you care what happens to the English national team anyway with your pro-Italian signature? You must be a confused sod? However I don't blame you, your a victim of the media which forces you to watch the EPL

[King Ledley]

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ENGLISH PLAYERS BEING TOO EXPENSIVE, YOUVE GOT THE MONEY NOW, SO LETS SEE WTF arseNE WILL DO

spudkid, obviously you don't understand what top managers do especially cause your club hasn't had one.

Arsene will not throw money around for no reason like many other clubs do, he'll buy the players that he feels he needs. At the moment i can't really think of a position where we really need to strengthen our team. maybe another striker but i don't really feel confident in saying that.

:?

[BAGGIO 15]

Inter would have been stuffed in the 1980's

We did fine, only started having problems when Moggi came around

Whole foreigner debate is getting boring, If Inter & Arsenal are the only two teams that are doing it then I suggest more teams try it as both seem to have the points on the board.

Baggio you mention Burns playing on the bench for AU if we had an influx of foreigners, if playing more foreigners meant a player like Burns sits on the bench I'd be happy as it meant the standard here is getting better.

Most of you also fail to realise the affect this role will have on our Socceroos. Considering 98% of our World Cup squad is made up of Australians that learn their trade overseas I would hate to think what our national team will be like 10 years after such a rule is passed.

And Diego why would you care what happens to the English national team anyway with your pro-Italian signature? You must be a confused sod? However I don't blame you, your a victim of the media which forces you to watch the EPL

Thats a valid point, that could go either way. Hasn't hurt many countries, but the same could be said for all the non football powers. It will force development to be taken more serious and more coaches will travcel abroud to share knowledge. I see the 3 non domestic players on the pitch at one time a s a positive.

[Le King]

lol this just proves how much ferguson has his head shoved sooooooo far up his anas...


shiraz he can afford to make comments like this cos he has had the cash to buy quality english in recent times.....all well and good for him to look at the english in his squad...but lets look at how much some of them cost, which only man utd could afford..(this is rough, correct me if im wrong)

Ferdinand - 28 mill pounds
Rooney - 25 mill
Hargreaves - 26 mill

spot on about that, we don't have many englishman because of the price tags that have been placed on their foreheads. Why would a title chasing side, but a mediocre englishman for 15 mill pounds when he can buy a quality foreigners for half the price. exactly what Wenger said

thats crap comin from both of u!!! the board offered wenger heaps of cash b4 the season 2 go out and buy players but he sed he didnt wanna spend the cash... arsenal dp have the money, i rememba a few months ago that sum1 posted arsenal were 1 of if not the new richest club in the world and that the move 2 emirates has them rakin in the cash... so theres no exuse of sayin that u cnt splash the cash for english players like we have...

[delfino_1936]

lol this just proves how much ferguson has his head shoved sooooooo far up his anas...


shiraz he can afford to make comments like this cos he has had the cash to buy quality english in recent times.....all well and good for him to look at the english in his squad...but lets look at how much some of them cost, which only man utd could afford..(this is rough, correct me if im wrong)

Ferdinand - 28 mill pounds
Rooney - 25 mill
Hargreaves - 26 mill

spot on about that, we don't have many englishman because of the price tags that have been placed on their foreheads. Why would a title chasing side, but a mediocre englishman for 15 mill pounds when he can buy a quality foreigners for half the price. exactly what Wenger said

thats crap comin from both of u!!! the board offered wenger heaps of cash b4 the season 2 go out and buy players but he sed he didnt wanna spend the cash... arsenal dp have the money, i rememba a few months ago that sum1 posted arsenal were 1 of if not the new richest club in the world and that the move 2 emirates has them rakin in the cash... so theres no exuse of sayin that u cnt splash the cash for english players like we have...

we just got the money now but we never have had that. Now that we have it we don't need to use it cause we don't need to spend it unnceccessarily. Arsene must have felt that he didn't need to buy anyone

[pires7]

the side is pretty much balanced! Business is still business, we dont want to buy a player for 10million to warm the bench! Any player we could buy this year won't get a game unless we bought them from another big 4 club!

Outide of this cant think of too many players in the league good enough to make our side!

[Ray Parlour]

lol this just proves how much ferguson has his head shoved sooooooo far up his anas...


shiraz he can afford to make comments like this cos he has had the cash to buy quality english in recent times.....all well and good for him to look at the english in his squad...but lets look at how much some of them cost, which only man utd could afford..(this is rough, correct me if im wrong)

Ferdinand - 28 mill pounds
Rooney - 25 mill
Hargreaves - 26 mill

spot on about that, we don't have many englishman because of the price tags that have been placed on their foreheads. Why would a title chasing side, but a mediocre englishman for 15 mill pounds when he can buy a quality foreigners for half the price. exactly what Wenger said

thats crap comin from both of u!!! the board offered wenger heaps of cash b4 the season 2 go out and buy players but he sed he didnt wanna spend the cash... arsenal dp have the money, i rememba a few months ago that sum1 posted arsenal were 1 of if not the new richest club in the world and that the move 2 emirates has them rakin in the cash... so theres no exuse of sayin that u cnt splash the cash for english players like we have...

why spend stupid amounts though....arsenal are where they are, and will continue to get richer, due to wengers ways...

why spend 20 mill on a player like carrick.....he is not world class...cant even get into the england midfield!



all fun and games lads....every1 has their own thoughts on the matter...

i believe in free markets in any type of business...so each team should be able to sign who they want...

the cheap imports are just a temp solution...arsenal will have english players back when they are good enough to come through the ranks..

players that have gone on to do well, sidwell, bentley, pennant....imo are not world class....and dont suit the arsenal way of play, but the current arsenal way of play is being trained into the juniors now, and in 5 or so years you will see young english being able to come into the team and play the system that is wanted....unless the manager changes, but im guessing/hoping whoever takes over from wenger 1 day will be chosen on the same footballing principles..

as for a.cole = we all know what an arsehole he is!

[Le King]

the side is pretty much balanced! Business is still business, we dont want to buy a player for 10million to warm the bench! Any player we could buy this year won't get a game unless we bought them from another big 4 club!

Outide of this cant think of too many players in the league good enough to make our side!

i could think of atleast 5

gerrard, rooney, ronaldo, terry, cech, drogba.... thats 6, ill stop there

[delfino_1936]

the side is pretty much balanced! Business is still business, we dont want to buy a player for 10million to warm the bench! Any player we could buy this year won't get a game unless we bought them from another big 4 club!

Outide of this cant think of too many players in the league good enough to make our side!

i could think of atleast 5

gerrard, rooney, ronaldo, terry, cech, drogba.... thats 6, ill stop there

yep add torres

[pires7]

the side is pretty much balanced! Business is still business, we dont want to buy a player for 10million to warm the bench! Any player we could buy this year won't get a game unless we bought them from another big 4 club!

Outide of this cant think of too many players in the league good enough to make our side!

i could think of atleast 5

gerrard, rooney, ronaldo, terry, cech, drogba.... thats 6, ill stop there

and i'm only talking englishmen

[Le King]

the side is pretty much balanced! Business is still business, we dont want to buy a player for 10million to warm the bench! Any player we could buy this year won't get a game unless we bought them from another big 4 club!

Outide of this cant think of too many players in the league good enough to make our side!

i could think of atleast 5

gerrard, rooney, ronaldo, terry, cech, drogba.... thats 6, ill stop there

and i'm only talking englishmen

gerrard, terry, lampard, rooney, scholes, richards, rio

[delfino_1936]

the side is pretty much balanced! Business is still business, we dont want to buy a player for 10million to warm the bench! Any player we could buy this year won't get a game unless we bought them from another big 4 club!

Outide of this cant think of too many players in the league good enough to make our side!

i could think of atleast 5

gerrard, rooney, ronaldo, terry, cech, drogba.... thats 6, ill stop there

and i'm only talking englishmen

gerrard, terry, lampard, rooney, scholes, richards, rio

i'd only have richards, gerrard, terry, rooney, scholes