Coaches for next year 2008

(.)(.) · Post by **(.)(.)** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:52 pm

Can any of the clubs name their coaches (and team they will be coaching) for next year's JPL comp?

Hollygirl · Post by **Hollygirl** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:54 pm

(.)(.) wrote:Can any of the clubs name their coaches (and team they will be coaching) for next year's JPL comp?

It would be good to have them listed before trials start.....some have already commenced

Barney Rubble · Post by **Barney Rubble** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:15 pm

check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times

(.)(.) · Post by **(.)(.)** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:53 pm

Barney Rubble wrote:check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times

...smartass, not all clubs have websites

(.)(.) · Post by **(.)(.)** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:36 pm

nor do they post their coaches on there if they have a website

Hollygirl · Post by **Hollygirl** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:25 pm

Barney Rubble wrote:check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times

Many web sites are not up to date and do not list coaches....and with juniors I think the coach is the most important reason for picking a junior club....Too many people get caught up in A Grade vs development

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:58 pm

Hollygirl wrote:
Barney Rubble wrote:check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times
Many web sites are not up to date and do not list coaches....and with juniors I think the coach is the most important reason for picking a junior club....Too many people get caught up in A Grade vs development

Sorry to hear that Hollygirl....I'd like to think that kids would want to be loyal to their Club first regardless of who the Coach is but I certainly understand your point. I personally think that development could still be hindered if you follow Coaches around with little regard for the Club. Seen this with some players and they have become delinquent in the soccer circles....especially in the higher age groups

They tend to ignore the meaning of mateship and teamwork and actually become "uncoachable".

Hollygirl · Post by **Hollygirl** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:28 pm

rabbit wrote:
Hollygirl wrote:
Barney Rubble wrote:check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times
Many web sites are not up to date and do not list coaches....and with juniors I think the coach is the most important reason for picking a junior club....Too many people get caught up in A Grade vs development
Sorry to hear that Hollygirl....I'd like to think that kids would want to be loyal to their Club first regardless of who the Coach is but I certainly understand your point. I personally think that development could still be hindered if you follow Coaches around with little regard for the Club. Seen this with some players and they have become delinquent in the soccer circles....especially in the higher age groups They tend to ignore the meaning of mateship and teamwork and actually become "uncoachable".

From what I have seen there is no loyalty either way.....very different to other sports I have been involved in......it's the win at all costs mentality I have issues with if it costs junior development.....I have seen too many coaches swearing and abusive to young players (under 11's 12's) and would have to take this sort of thing into account.

I think the new rules with coaching licences will help but some coaches unfortunately should not be involved with juniors.

Missing Post Count · Post by **Missing Post Count** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:32 pm

Hollygirl wrote:From what I have seen there is no loyalty either way.....very different to other sports I have been involved in......it's the win at all costs mentality I have issues with if it costs junior development.....I have seen too many coaches swearing and abusive to young players (under 11's 12's) and would have to take this sort of thing into account.

I think the new rules with coaching licences will help but some coaches unfortunately should not be involved with juniors.

So true

Missing Post Count · Post by **Missing Post Count** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:32 pm

Some parents take it too seriously too.

Barney Rubble · Post by **Barney Rubble** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:41 pm

agreed,

some parents miss the difference betwen their son (or daughters) actual ability and their (the players) true enthusiasm for the game.

In other words a coach has to be a part time parent towards the development of the player where-as some parents live their "dream" through their childs involvement.

Loyalty ?
The parent often see the wining at all costs as developement until they lose games, coaches who take this attitude don't rate much higher either

Some times lesser skilled players can learn more alongside more advanced players.

agree that some clubs websites are not up-to-date but if you are lookng for coaches names as to a decision where your son/daughter plays you are going in the wrong direction.

Loyalty ?

Same topic different season,

Waddaya reckon Rabbit

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 1:07 pm

Barney Rubble wrote:agreed,

some parents miss the difference betwen their son (or daughters) actual ability and their (the players) true enthusiasm for the game.

In other words a coach has to be a part time parent towards the development of the player where-as some parents live their "dream" through their childs involvement.

Loyalty ?
The parent often see the wining at all costs as developement until they lose games, coaches who take this attitude don't rate much higher either

Some times lesser skilled players can learn more alongside more advanced players.

agree that some clubs websites are not up-to-date but if you are lookng for coaches names as to a decision where your son/daughter plays you are going in the wrong direction.

Loyalty ?

Same topic different season,

Waddaya reckon Rabbit

With you all the way mate

Željko Jurin · Post by **Željko Jurin** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:33 pm

Hollygirl wrote:
Barney Rubble wrote:check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times
Many web sites are not up to date and do not list coaches....and with juniors I think the coach is the most important reason for picking a junior club....Too many people get caught up in A Grade vs development

I agree with your comment very much. There are clubs out there that have a fantastic set-up, countless volunteers, get hundreds of players to trial so they then choose and have the best ones. Then, they have a hairdresser or mechanic who has NEVER played soccer as a coach, because he is a committee members relative.

(.)(.) · Post by **(.)(.)** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:49 pm

Thanks for all your inputs and opinions, but not one coach named yet

not interested in changing or going to a particular coach, just interested to know who is coaching where. So, if anyone has any info please feel free to post it, or is it top secret?

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:59 pm

[quote="(.)(.)"]Thanks for all your inputs and opinions, but not one coach named yet

not interested in changing or going to a particular coach, just interested to know who is coaching where. So, if anyone has any info please feel free to post it, or is it top secret?[/quote]

Seems that way doesn't it?

mooroffside · Post by **mooroffside** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:42 am

Modbury have the coaches for next season listed on their website, all ages except for the new 13's girls team. They have been up for at least 2 weeks as far as I know.

Baptista · Post by **Baptista** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:48 pm

I believe Richard Preston is coming back to white city next yr to coach U17s. I have seen him train some kids and i think he is a good coach. Dragan Spika is probably going to be at white city, hopefully the club starts advertising if Dragan is coming because he has coached the likes of Dejan Stankovic and Kezman

J.Z. · Post by **J.Z.** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:54 pm

Raiders have a uefaB license holder for the U17's next year (don't know name yet). Along with Branko Milosevic (seniors coach) overlooking. Ex state and first team player for their U14A's, John Girdovic (excellent with juniors I hear). The focus is on coaching standards.

ausball75 · Post by **ausball75** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:33 pm

another coach at raiders for 2008 under 13s is tony reeves ,also comes with high credentials

LEVSKI · Post by **LEVSKI** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:17 am

I know in Croydon one of the under 13 coaches resign.They will have new team U16.The coach there will be the ex coach of enfield U15.Few of there another coaches will be same with few little changes.I heard Carl Maynard maybe comeing back to the club to work with juniors.

simon says · Post by **simon says** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:27 pm

Anybody know the Coaches of Playford and Para hills yet.>>

liverpool_08 · Post by **liverpool_08** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:05 pm

simon says wrote: Anybody know the Coaches of Playford and Para hills yet.>>

Rabbit please clarify?

Hollygirl · Post by **Hollygirl** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:24 pm

Zeljko Jurin wrote:
Hollygirl wrote:
Barney Rubble wrote:check out the websites of the clubs you are interested in and . . .

You don't even have to get off your butt's.

Geez`life is tough at times
Many web sites are not up to date and do not list coaches....and with juniors I think the coach is the most important reason for picking a junior club....Too many people get caught up in A Grade vs development
I agree with your comment very much. There are clubs out there that have a fantastic set-up, countless volunteers, get hundreds of players to trial so they then choose and have the best ones. Then, they have a hairdresser or mechanic who has NEVER played soccer as a coach, because he is a committee members relative.

....or because he is the only one that puts his hand up....

J.Z. · Post by **J.Z.** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:00 pm

Holly,
It's no longer good enough to just "put hand up"! It's up to the club to have or acquire an acredited coach for each team. The "hands up" continues for volunteers though

ausball75 · Post by **ausball75** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:35 pm

i agree with holly the coach must be good before club cause kids need to learn how to play the game

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:54 pm

ausball75 wrote:i agree with holly the coach must be good before club cause kids need to learn how to play the game

So , after that season with the good coach, your child wants to stay at the club. However, next year you don't like the coach so you move on....and again and again and again. Have some faith in the Club and you will find that generally good clubs have good coaches in all age groups but still remembering that all coaches are different. To take your kid from club to club chasing the "ideal" coach will in fact hold certain areas of development back. Go to a reputable junior club first and believe me you won't be disapointed with their development over a 6 or 7 year time span regardless of whether or not they win trophies and league titles. Have some faith in a team environment or go and play a singular player sport like chess. Remember your child doesn't just learn from his coach...if observant he'll learn just as much from his TEAM MATES.

Hollygirl · Post by **Hollygirl** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:28 pm

rabbit wrote:
ausball75 wrote:i agree with holly the coach must be good before club cause kids need to learn how to play the game
So , after that season with the good coach, your child wants to stay at the club. However, next year you don't like the coach so you move on....and again and again and again. Have some faith in the Club and you will find that generally good clubs have good coaches in all age groups but still remembering that all coaches are different. To take your kid from club to club chasing the "ideal" coach will in fact hold certain areas of development back. Go to a reputable junior club first and believe me you won't be disapointed with their development over a 6 or 7 year time span regardless of whether or not they win trophies and league titles. Have some faith in a team environment or go and play a singular player sport like chess. Remember your child doesn't just learn from his coach...if observant he'll learn just as much from his TEAM MATES.

Rabbit I normally agree with most of what you are saying but have seen the end results of poor coaching on some children. I have witnessed (at a top fed club) a coach turn a very good player into a child that will never play the sport again. He was abusive towards players would swear on the sidelines and when the parents approached the club as a group they got nowhere. What options did the parents have.....surely under these circumstances you are better to move to a different club with a better coach......this was at Under 11's. The coach eventually left and some players have returned to the club with the new coach.....while my son was not one of the ones abused I did not believe this was an appropriate environment for an 11 year old.....he certainly knew his soccer but that did not make him a good coach for children!

rabbit · Post by **rabbit** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:06 am

Hollygirl.....in that instance I couldn't be more agreeable. All I'm saying is, have a little faith in the clubs too. For a club not to address serious issues that you mention though is quite poor. The fact that kids have gone back says something for the club I guess. There is a fine line between chasing that elusive coach and being faithful to your club. Sometimes you can get a lesser quality coach but the kids are having a great time with him and their mates. Then what do you do? Very tough nowdays to know if you are doing the right thing. And hey, I normally agree with your thoughts too but there it is......those pesky opinions again!! Don't forget what I said though....kids can learn as much from their team mates as they can from their coach.

J.Z. · Post by **J.Z.** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:56 pm

From my experience the cream will eventually rise to the top anyway

So why not let the kids enjoy it. There will be better and also worse coaches (as well as clubs) along the road of development. If the kid is meant to be an outstanding player that kid will posess extra drive and passion (within) and will also develop skills outside of training sessions. Some develop early others later. As parents, you are doing the right thing by encouraging but not pushing the kids to train and to develop. I don't believe that it's all up to the club (or coach) whether or not a player will be successful in the long run. Basically, it's up to the individual how far he/she wants to go. The more they like it the further they will go

Željko Jurin · Post by **Željko Jurin** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:32 am

Raiders Junior Coaches 2008, just to name a few

u/14's - Johnny Grdovic
u/13's - Tony Reeves
u/12's - Ivica Jurkovic
u/11's - Nenad Sosa

ALL of the above played Super League for 5-10+ years, were players of Championship winning teams, ALL were Senior SA State representatives, with Ivica being club and State Captain

u/9's - Vlado Blazeka
u/8's - Zak Ilicic
Both were regular reserves players, but didnt make the final step.

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