henry 'past it' - mirror

Ray Parlour · Post by **Ray Parlour** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:14 pm

from mirror.co.uk

interesting, dunno if true, but time will tell

THIERRY 'PAST IT'
By Martin Lipton 05/07/2007
ARSENE WENGER let Thierry Henry join Barcelona because he had scientific proof the former skipper was past it.

Wenger took the final decision to sanction Henry's Â£16million move to the Nou Camp and his stance was backed by the Gunners board.

It emerged last night that the Arsenal boss had studied the physiological statistics and read-outs and reached the conclusion that, just like Patrick Vieira two years ago, Henry was over the hill.

An Arsenal insider said: "Arsene was given the statistics, hard and fast figures, about Thierry's performance levels.

"If he'd wanted to keep Henry, he would have remained. But the stats suggested his performance levels were drifting away pretty rapidly."

The cold-blooded decision to let Henry go is further evidence of the analytical approach that has created the most successful era in Arsenal history.

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:16 pm

very interesting read

apparently the Barca medics found problems with his groins as well

barbarez01 · Post by **barbarez01** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:31 pm

AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!

Juventino · Post by **Juventino** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:42 pm

Vieria has not been crap in the past two seasons.

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:45 pm

barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!

yeh thats true....AW knows and i think he has made the right choice

Juventino is right....Vieira has been good for Juve and Inter but when he played against us he did shiraz all so that to me proved it was a good move as Cesc filled in the void very well so quickly

Juventino · Post by **Juventino** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:47 pm

Every Juventus player was crap against Arsenal. I wouldn't judge the decision on those matches.

ruud · Post by **ruud** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:18 am

barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!

hes been crap by winning a scudetto?

barbarez01 · Post by **barbarez01** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:37 am

Huntelaar wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!
hes been crap by winning a scudetto?

winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..

Juventino · Post by **Juventino** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:07 am

He won a fair one with Juve in 2005/06...

And forget that Milan were docked points. Did Milan finish less than 8 points behind Inter? No they didn't, so it doesn't really come into the equation. What does matter is taht Inter were too good for everyone last season. You don't win 17 games in a row and go unbeaten for 33? games if you are crap.

I want to see Inter fail this season, but let's not deny them the accolades they deserve for last season's win.

thierry · Post by **thierry** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:11 am

agree

The one and only · Post by **The one and only** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:14 am

barbarez01 wrote:
Huntelaar wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!
hes been crap by winning a scudetto?
winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..

milan would of finished third regardless of the points deduction

thierry · Post by **thierry** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:24 am

The one and only wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:
Huntelaar wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!
hes been crap by winning a scudetto?
winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..
milan would of finished third regardless of the points deduction

turn it up

barbarez01 · Post by **barbarez01** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:28 am

yes they would have been 3rd if the docked points had been taken away from them at the end of the season, but we dont know how it feels to be docked points and to start a new season not level with everyone else.. it affects each player in the team and the teams performances as a whole, milans confidence and team morale was very low before the season had even kicked off..

Juventino · Post by **Juventino** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:34 am

I'm sure Reggina's confidence would have been low, same with Fiorentina. But what did they do? Well Reggina put in their best ever season and Fiorentina overcame the biggest deficit to reac Europe.

Milan should blame their lack of a striker in the first half of the season more than anything.

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:02 am

Come on .. after u all sold him, now u said he's past it ?
Im sure u all will take him back anydays !!

barbarez01 · Post by **barbarez01** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:05 am

ronaldo07 wrote:Come on .. after u all sold him, now u said he's past it ?
Im sure u all will take him back anydays !!

yes we would, but he is definately past his best and its only downhill from now on..

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:42 am

wat make u think he's pass his best ?
definitely still the top 3 striker in the world now i wud said

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:37 pm

ronaldo07 wrote:wat make u think he's pass his best ?
definitely still the top 3 striker in the world now i wud said

injuries and his lack games

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:51 pm

Rigoni 10 wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:wat make u think he's pass his best ?
definitely still the top 3 striker in the world now i wud said
injuries and his lack games

one season injuries make him pass his best

delfino_1936 · Post by **delfino_1936** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:54 pm

ronaldo07 wrote:
Rigoni 10 wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:wat make u think he's pass his best ?
definitely still the top 3 striker in the world now i wud said
injuries and his lack games
one season injuries make him pass his best

he is 30 and the medics have said he has groin problems.....Arsene knows.....it all adds up dont worry my stupid Manc friend

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:06 pm

Rigoni 10 wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:
Rigoni 10 wrote:
ronaldo07 wrote:wat make u think he's pass his best ?
definitely still the top 3 striker in the world now i wud said
injuries and his lack games
one season injuries make him pass his best
he is 30 and the medics have said he has groin problems.....Arsene knows.....it all adds up dont worry my stupid Manc friend

yeh we'll see how he doing in barcelona then !!
After all he've done to the club over the past few seasons, this is the 'credit' he got from the fans...

INTERISTA · Post by **INTERISTA** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:07 pm

its all sour grapes by arsenal henry will dominate as per usual

LFTWNG11 · Post by **LFTWNG11** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:07 pm

dont worry ronaldo07, i think i agree with you for once... first Arsenal supporters were saying how they would be a force next season with henry fit and ready to go, now they are going to be even better cos they sold Henry and he was never going to be back to his best.

time will tell

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:13 pm

LFTWNG11 wrote:dont worry ronaldo07, i think i agree with you for once... first Arsenal supporters were saying how they would be a force next season with henry fit and ready to go, now they are going to be even better cos they sold Henry and he was never going to be back to his best.

time will tell

lol .. typical arsenal fans lol ...
how long is your sleep yesterday night lftwng

manU4life · Post by **manU4life** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:25 pm

henry is definately not past his best, i rate him in my top 5 and would love him in my team. if i was a gonner id be very pessimistic of our chances this season. as lfty said, arsenals aim will be to not let spurs finish above them and beat liverpool 9-2 in the carling cup.

Fred Goldstone · Post by **Fred Goldstone** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:38 pm

"Statistics, statistics, more dammed lies and statistics." as one wit wrote.

Fortunately, statistics are just figures on paper and don't actually prove anything, except that they reach the pre-conceived conclusions of their compilers.

In real life, it is talent and determination to succeed that are important and Henty has both in abundance.

He will succeed because he is a great player.

Piola · Post by **Piola** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:46 pm

The one and only wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:
Huntelaar wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!
hes been crap by winning a scudetto?
winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..
milan would of finished third regardless of the points deduction

milan finished 4th anyway. the great lazio finished 3rd

manU4life · Post by **manU4life** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:54 pm

Laziale wrote:
The one and only wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:
Huntelaar wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!
hes been crap by winning a scudetto?
winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..
milan would of finished third regardless of the points deduction
milan finished 4th anyway. the great lazio finished 3rd

always turns into italian football someway or another....

ronaldo07 · Post by **ronaldo07** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:01 pm

manU4life wrote:
Laziale wrote:
The one and only wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:
Huntelaar wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:AW is right when it comes to assesing players.. he got it right with patrick who has been shite since he left and now i believe that he will be correct about letting Henry leave!
hes been crap by winning a scudetto?
winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..
milan would of finished third regardless of the points deduction
milan finished 4th anyway. the great lazio finished 3rd
always turns into italian football someway or another....

.........which is boring

LFTWNG11 · Post by **LFTWNG11** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:19 pm

ronaldo07 wrote:
manU4life wrote:
Laziale wrote:
The one and only wrote:
barbarez01 wrote:
Huntelaar wrote: hes been crap by winning a scudetto?
winning a scudetto in a non competative league (juve relegated, milan docked points).. let me see him try and win one fair and square for once not that it was inters fault the other teams that cheated previously but lets see how inter goes with everyone starting from 0..
milan would of finished third regardless of the points deduction
milan finished 4th anyway. the great lazio finished 3rd
always turns into italian football someway or another....
.........which is boring

ur boring!

my sleep was good, i went to bed late, woke up late... works out well?!?! but why are you thining about me sleeping... fag!!!