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Crystal Palace 1, Totteringham 0.

Arsenal 2, Liverpool 2. Arsenal robbed of a third goal at the end by the referee when he deemed jumping to head the ball goalwards a foul.
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Con M wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:13 am Crystal Palace 1, Totteringham 0.

Arsenal 2, Liverpool 2. Arsenal robbed of a third goal at the end by the referee when he deemed jumping to head the ball goalwards a foul.
VVD won challenges like that all game in the defensive half. No consistency in his decision making, nor the VAR. Goal should have counted
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haywood djablowme wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:35 am
Con M wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:13 am Crystal Palace 1, Totteringham 0.

Arsenal 2, Liverpool 2. Arsenal robbed of a third goal at the end by the referee when he deemed jumping to head the ball goalwards a foul.
VVD won challenges like that all game in the defensive half. No consistency in his decision making, nor the VAR. Goal should have counted
:lol: excellent decision, much better than Van de Ven's decision to try and control the ball with the forward in his face, just lump the bloody thing up in the air and reset.
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Spurs and Man U having a poor start to the season. :grin:
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eagleboy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:19 pm Spurs and Man U having a poor start to the season. :grin:
Well it finally led to ETH departing, most United fans will be happy I think.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:15 am
eagleboy wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:19 pm Spurs and Man U having a poor start to the season. :grin:
Well it finally led to ETH departing, most United fans will be happy I think.
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Love the EPL. City and Arsenal losing. :clap:
A Chelsea win over MU will make my weekend. :thumbup:
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eagleboy wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:05 am Love the EPL. City and Arsenal losing. :clap:
A Chelsea win over MU will make my weekend. :thumbup:
A good weekend for the scousers.
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eagleboy wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:05 am Love the EPL. City and Arsenal losing. :clap:
A Chelsea win over MU will make my weekend. :thumbup:
No Ohhmygod, no Arsenal, it's starting to look that way :(
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haywood djablowme wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:16 pm
eagleboy wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:05 am Love the EPL. City and Arsenal losing. :clap:
A Chelsea win over MU will make my weekend. :thumbup:
No Ohhmygod, no Arsenal, it's starting to look that way :(
Damn. How many shots just on the wrong side of the post or point-blank shots blocked?

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Caught the amazing end to the Fulham versus Brentford game at Craven Cottage when Fulham scored 2 amazing goals in stoppage time to win 2-1.

(As an aside, it looked like nothing has changed grandstands-wise in that stadium since Australia famously beat England 3-1 with goals by Popovich, Kewell & Emerton playing against famous EPL names like Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell and Owen.
My daughter and son-in-law were working in London at the time and were in the large contingent of Aussies in the capacity crowd who drowned out the English supporters’ chants).
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Con M wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:26 pm Australia famously beat England 3-1
:lol: You don't take friendlies seriously.
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Con M wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:26 pm Caught the amazing end to the Fulham versus Brentford game at Craven Cottage when Fulham scored 2 amazing goals in stoppage time to win 2-1.

(As an aside, it looked like nothing has changed grandstands-wise in that stadium since Australia famously beat England 3-1 with goals by Popovich, Kewell & Emerton playing against famous EPL names like Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell and Owen.
My daughter and son-in-law were working in London at the time and were in the large contingent of Aussies in the capacity crowd who drowned out the English supporters’ chants).
:lol: What are you talking about? Where the camera sits is the brand new two tier Riverside grandstand overlooking the river.

As for Wilson's goals, the first one he waved a foot at and had no idea where it was going and the second, despite the commentator saying it was a great header, actually hit his shoulder.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:01 am
Con M wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:26 pm Caught the amazing end to the Fulham versus Brentford game at Craven Cottage when Fulham scored 2 amazing goals in stoppage time to win 2-1.

(As an aside, it looked like nothing has changed grandstands-wise in that stadium since Australia famously beat England 3-1 with goals by Popovich, Kewell & Emerton playing against famous EPL names like Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell and Owen.
My daughter and son-in-law were working in London at the time and were in the large contingent of Aussies in the capacity crowd who drowned out the English supporters’ chants).
:lol: What are you talking about? Where the camera sits is the brand new two tier Riverside grandstand overlooking the river.

As for Wilson's goals, the first one he waved a foot at and had no idea where it was going and the second, despite the commentator saying it was a great header, actually hit his shoulder.
Nah Cyril, I’m talking about the original low Stevenage Road Stand (renamed the Johnny Haines Stand). It was built in 1905. When the camera pans up you can see the central gable bearing the name Fulham Football Club. I concede about the new whole Riverside Stand that opened this year.

Watching it live, the stoppage time was very exciting for their fans. Yes, he flicked at it with his foot to loop up and they all count when they go in. Re the second one, watch again - he was aiming for the near post, and header or off the shoulder, it also went in.

ps The Bourne Identity, Friendly or not, do you really think Beckham and all those other EPL stars weren’t competitive? They pleaded to not be substituted so they could show Kewell and those upstarts from Down Under what’s what.
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Con M wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:57 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:01 am
Con M wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:26 pm Caught the amazing end to the Fulham versus Brentford game at Craven Cottage when Fulham scored 2 amazing goals in stoppage time to win 2-1.

(As an aside, it looked like nothing has changed grandstands-wise in that stadium since Australia famously beat England 3-1 with goals by Popovich, Kewell & Emerton playing against famous EPL names like Beckham, Scholes, Neville, Ferdinand, Campbell and Owen.
My daughter and son-in-law were working in London at the time and were in the large contingent of Aussies in the capacity crowd who drowned out the English supporters’ chants).
:lol: What are you talking about? Where the camera sits is the brand new two tier Riverside grandstand overlooking the river.

As for Wilson's goals, the first one he waved a foot at and had no idea where it was going and the second, despite the commentator saying it was a great header, actually hit his shoulder.
Nah Cyril, I’m talking about the original low Stevenage Road Stand (renamed the Johnny Haines Stand). It was built in 1905. When the camera pans up you can see the central gable bearing the name Fulham Football Club. I concede about the new whole Riverside Stand that opened this year.

Watching it live, the stoppage time was very exciting for their fans. Yes, he flicked at it with his foot to loop up and they all count when they go in. Re the second one, watch again - he was aiming for the near post, and header or off the shoulder, it also went in.

ps The Bourne Identity, Friendly or not, do you really think Beckham and all those other EPL stars weren’t competitive? They pleaded to not be substituted so they could show Kewell and those upstarts from Down Under what’s what.
Assuming you mean Johnny Haynes, what is known to the fans as the 'Family Stand'. I think it might be protected, certainly the facade where the turnstiles and shop are located is and the actual Cottage obviously is.
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Con M wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:57 am ps The Bourne Identity, Friendly or not, do you really think Beckham and all those other EPL stars weren’t competitive? They pleaded to not be substituted so they could show Kewell and those upstarts from Down Under what’s what.
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Another loss to City. :thumbup:

Matt O'Reilly scoring the winner. :clap: :clap: :clap:
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eagleboy wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:06 am Another loss to City. :thumbup:
They have a blip every season, they will still go on & win it when all fit & firing
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The Bourne Identity wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:47 am
Con M wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:26 pm Australia famously beat England 3-1
:lol: You don't take friendlies seriously.
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City was really shitty.
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And Aussie Ang 🇦🇺 didn’t have bad Uruguayan boy Rodrigo Betancur 🇺🇾 who’s on a 7-match(!) suspension.

ps, did I read somewhere that ManCiteh is facing D-Day soon about their naughtiness to do with Financial Fair Play irregularities?
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Two terrible penalties in the Soton v Pool game. First one was clearly outside the box, so I have no idea how VAR didn't at the very least send the ref to the monitor. Second one was more subjective, but when you jump your arms are out for balance (as opposed to both feet on the floor when you can keep them in) and the ball hits him in the chest first then ricochets into his arm. It's not like there was any Liverpool player going to get it, it's purely accidental, so for me, that shouldn't be handball.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:23 am Two terrible penalties in the Soton v Pool game. First one was clearly outside the box, so I have no idea how VAR didn't at the very least send the ref to the monitor. Second one was more subjective, but when you jump your arms are out for balance (as opposed to both feet on the floor when you can keep them in) and the ball hits him in the chest first then ricochets into his arm. It's not like there was any Liverpool player going to get it, it's purely accidental, so for me, that shouldn't be handball.
Agree on 1st one.

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Nice One Cyril wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:23 am Two terrible penalties in the Soton v Pool game. First one was clearly outside the box, so I have no idea how VAR didn't at the very least send the ref to the monitor. Second one was more subjective, but when you jump your arms are out for balance (as opposed to both feet on the floor when you can keep them in) and the ball hits him in the chest first then ricochets into his arm. It's not like there was any Liverpool player going to get it, it's purely accidental, so for me, that shouldn't be handball.
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eagleboy wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:02 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:23 am Two terrible penalties in the Soton v Pool game. First one was clearly outside the box, so I have no idea how VAR didn't at the very least send the ref to the monitor. Second one was more subjective, but when you jump your arms are out for balance (as opposed to both feet on the floor when you can keep them in) and the ball hits him in the chest first then ricochets into his arm. It's not like there was any Liverpool player going to get it, it's purely accidental, so for me, that shouldn't be handball.
Agree on 1st one.

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Show me a footballer who can jump to chest control a ball, especially on an angle, without having their arms out and away. In fact you would tend to keep your arms out to avoid contact with the ball. Had it hit his arm directly I could understand the award, but it bounced off his chest, what the hell was he meant to do?
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Handball should be handball, intentional or not.
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Nice One Cyril wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:51 pm
eagleboy wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:02 am
Nice One Cyril wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:23 am Two terrible penalties in the Soton v Pool game. First one was clearly outside the box, so I have no idea how VAR didn't at the very least send the ref to the monitor. Second one was more subjective, but when you jump your arms are out for balance (as opposed to both feet on the floor when you can keep them in) and the ball hits him in the chest first then ricochets into his arm. It's not like there was any Liverpool player going to get it, it's purely accidental, so for me, that shouldn't be handball.
Agree on 1st one.

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LOTG wrote:It is an offence if a player:

deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball

touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
Show me a footballer who can jump to chest control a ball, especially on an angle, without having their arms out and away. In fact you would tend to keep your arms out to avoid contact with the ball. Had it hit his arm directly I could understand the award, but it bounced off his chest, what the hell was he meant to do?
100% penalty. Watched it again on ESPN. They had no issue with it.
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Get In The Car wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:12 pm Handball should be handball, intentional or not.
The age old argument but I never had a problem with the old handball interpretation of ball to hand or hand to ball, leaving it up to the ref's discretion. The problem is, IFAB fuck about with laws that have worked for a century, because of the media mostly, and it makes it worse. Add an extra opinion from VAR and it's a total clusterfuck.
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Get In The Car wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:12 pm Handball should be handball, intentional or not.
More so offside. If you are in an offside position when the ball is played forward, then you're offside. None of this "not involved" BS
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