Popeye Magoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 pm
I assume England have by and large written the laws of cricket, yet oddly enough seem to be very critical of them in this series including legitimate stumpings, drawn test due to weather limiting game time.
2-1 down yet so many saying they are unlucky?
For me they can be thankful for being competitive against the world's number one ranked test team (who have been without their top line spinner in last couple). England have won the toss on each occasion, ordered certain pitches to their liking, crowd getting stuck in at any opportunity, but still couldn't break down the opposition.
I say well done Australia who yet could still take this out 3-1.
Both teams have had injury issues. We are without our top line spinner. As well as Robinson, Wood and Archer for all/a lot of the series.
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
The MCC write the laws, not England. All sports have people making suggestions about changes. The playing until later or a spare day both seem sensible enough for discussion.
Crowd getting stuck in, so exactly what happens in australia then?
I'd say we've been more than competetive. 3 of the games could have been won by either team. Going into the 4th test, either team could have been 3-0 up.
I reckon there should always be a "reserve" day (day 6) but only if weather has been a prime factor in there not being a result after 5 days. Eg, if say they work out 40 overs of play was lost that hadn't been already made up in first five days, then those 40 overs would be allowed on day 6.
Anyway, for now, I'm glad it rained, and this time it worked for us, but who is to say Marsh & Green wouldn't have gone on to make a 200+ partnership and set england around 200 to win, which they then got bowled out chasing?
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:27 pm
They wont add a rest day to test matches .. schedules are already packed.
What if both teams in the series agreed to it beforehand? It won't even be needed in majority of tests but serves as a backup, so you are likely only looking at an extra day, maybe two, in an entire series.
Popeye Magoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 pm
I assume England have by and large written the laws of cricket, yet oddly enough seem to be very critical of them in this series including legitimate stumpings, drawn test due to weather limiting game time.
2-1 down yet so many saying they are unlucky?
For me they can be thankful for being competitive against the world's number one ranked test team (who have been without their top line spinner in last couple). England have won the toss on each occasion, ordered certain pitches to their liking, crowd getting stuck in at any opportunity, but still couldn't break down the opposition.
I say well done Australia who yet could still take this out 3-1.
Both teams have had injury issues. We are without our top line spinner. As well as Robinson, Wood and Archer for all/a lot of the series.
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
The MCC write the laws, not England. All sports have people making suggestions about changes. The playing until later or a spare day both seem sensible enough for discussion.
Crowd getting stuck in, so exactly what happens in australia then?
I'd say we've been more than competetive. 3 of the games could have been won by either team. Going into the 4th test, either team could have been 3-0 up.
Of course you would believe the groundsman, even though it was made clear what your captain wanted.
MCC is virtually England.
More sour grapes but at least you had a good crack, despite much of things going your way, home grounds, toss wins. You just forgot to be nice to the weatherman!
I might be old, senile, short sighted and a poor driver but give me some spinach and I'll have you for breakfast!
Popeye Magoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 pm
I assume England have by and large written the laws of cricket, yet oddly enough seem to be very critical of them in this series including legitimate stumpings, drawn test due to weather limiting game time.
2-1 down yet so many saying they are unlucky?
For me they can be thankful for being competitive against the world's number one ranked test team (who have been without their top line spinner in last couple). England have won the toss on each occasion, ordered certain pitches to their liking, crowd getting stuck in at any opportunity, but still couldn't break down the opposition.
I say well done Australia who yet could still take this out 3-1.
Both teams have had injury issues. We are without our top line spinner. As well as Robinson, Wood and Archer for all/a lot of the series.
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
The MCC write the laws, not England. All sports have people making suggestions about changes. The playing until later or a spare day both seem sensible enough for discussion.
Crowd getting stuck in, so exactly what happens in australia then?
I'd say we've been more than competetive. 3 of the games could have been won by either team. Going into the 4th test, either team could have been 3-0 up.
Of course you would believe the groundsman, even though it was made clear what your captain wanted.
MCC is virtually England.
More sour grapes but at least you had a good crack, despite much of things going your way, home grounds, toss wins. You just forgot to be nice to the weatherman!
Ahh so you just want to assume the groundsmen were lying? If it had happened then surely all wickets would have been the same. What happened in England is no different to what happens in australia?
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:25 pm
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
cite the source....
Ben Stokes was asked in April what kind of pitches he was hoping to play on in the Ashes. His response was unequivocal. “We’ve been clear with the ground staff what type of wickets we want and they have been responsive,” he said. “We want flat, fast wickets.”
“Hence, we will not say that Greeks fight like heroes, but that heroes fight like Greeks." Winston Churchill
God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 2:25 pm
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
cite the source....
Ben Stokes was asked in April what kind of pitches he was hoping to play on in the Ashes. His response was unequivocal. “We’ve been clear with the ground staff what type of wickets we want and they have been responsive,” he said. “We want flat, fast wickets.”
MegaBonus wrote:Barwell, head of sports turf and grounds at Edgbaston since 2011, will be responsible for the wicket used in the first Test and this news came as a complete surprise to him. “I was on holiday in Miami and I got sent the clip,” Barwell says.
“I can 100% tell you I have never been told that. I know they want good pitches, that’s all I’ve heard, and I don’t think that’s unusual. I’ve never been asked to produce a pitch for England in all the time I’ve been here. I get asked to produce a good cricket wicket and that’s it.”
Happily I will quote you, quoting the head groundsman
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Fairly poor comparison but are you saying Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were disqualified and not recognised for any gold medals or races won ?
How is it a poor comparison? All 3 of them are convicted drug cheats.
eagleboy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:14 pm
600 wickets. Congratulations.
On the opening day of the Ashes fourth Test, England fast bowler Stuard Broad joined the illusive 600 Test wickets club.
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Pretty good, but most of ours usually retire when they are in their early-mid thirties.
Take away Warner and Ireland, how many would he have?
Popeye Magoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 pm
I assume England have by and large written the laws of cricket, yet oddly enough seem to be very critical of them in this series including legitimate stumpings, drawn test due to weather limiting game time.
2-1 down yet so many saying they are unlucky?
For me they can be thankful for being competitive against the world's number one ranked test team (who have been without their top line spinner in last couple). England have won the toss on each occasion, ordered certain pitches to their liking, crowd getting stuck in at any opportunity, but still couldn't break down the opposition.
I say well done Australia who yet could still take this out 3-1.
Both teams have had injury issues. We are without our top line spinner. As well as Robinson, Wood and Archer for all/a lot of the series.
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
The MCC write the laws, not England. All sports have people making suggestions about changes. The playing until later or a spare day both seem sensible enough for discussion.
Crowd getting stuck in, so exactly what happens in australia then?
I'd say we've been more than competetive. 3 of the games could have been won by either team. Going into the 4th test, either team could have been 3-0 up.
Of course you would believe the groundsman, even though it was made clear what your captain wanted.
MCC is virtually England.
More sour grapes but at least you had a good crack, despite much of things going your way, home grounds, toss wins. You just forgot to be nice to the weatherman!
Ahh so you just want to assume the groundsmen were lying? If it had happened then surely all wickets would have been the same. What happened in England is no different to what happens in australia?
The MCC is certainly not England.
No sour grapes, just facts
MCC is situated where? Who originated the laws of cricket? How many non-Brits are involved?
I might be old, senile, short sighted and a poor driver but give me some spinach and I'll have you for breakfast!
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Fairly poor comparison but are you saying Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were disqualified and not recognised for any gold medals or races won ?
How is it a poor comparison? All 3 of them are convicted drug cheats.
I assume they had their titles stripped from them
Assume ?? Ben Johnson had his 1988 Olympic 100m, 1987 World Championships and 1987 World Indoor Championship Gold medal stripped but still retained all his other medals he won in other events,
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his 7 consecutive TDF but still retains his stage wins 1993,1995 and races inc 1993 World Road Race Championships...
so events they were found guilty they had titles taken from as expected, Was Shane Warne found guilty of performance enhancing drugs during a match ?
But I guess England allow their athletes to keep their OBE's even if they have been banned for life from the British Olympic Association for testing positive to banned drugs
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Fairly poor comparison but are you saying Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were disqualified and not recognised for any gold medals or races won ?
How is it a poor comparison? All 3 of them are convicted drug cheats.
I assume they had their titles stripped from them
Assume ?? Ben Johnson had his 1988 Olympic 100m, 1987 World Championships and 1987 World Indoor Championship Gold medal stripped but still retained all his other medals he won in other events,
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his 7 consecutive TDF but still retains his stage wins 1993,1995 and races inc 1993 World Road Race Championships...
so events they were found guilty they had titles taken from as expected, Was Shane Warne found guilty of performance enhancing drugs during a match ?
But I guess England allow their athletes to keep their OBE's even if they have been banned for life from the British Olympic Association for testing positive to banned drugs
I believe the drug cheat warne tested positive in the build up to the world cup. Shortly after a miraculously quick recovery from a shoulder injury.
Who has tested positive and then kept an OBE?
Did Armstrong and Johnson test positive in all of those events or did they strip him of the titles anyway?
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Fairly poor comparison but are you saying Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were disqualified and not recognised for any gold medals or races won ?
How is it a poor comparison? All 3 of them are convicted drug cheats.
I assume they had their titles stripped from them
Assume ?? Ben Johnson had his 1988 Olympic 100m, 1987 World Championships and 1987 World Indoor Championship Gold medal stripped but still retained all his other medals he won in other events,
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his 7 consecutive TDF but still retains his stage wins 1993,1995 and races inc 1993 World Road Race Championships...
so events they were found guilty they had titles taken from as expected, Was Shane Warne found guilty of performance enhancing drugs during a match ?
But I guess England allow their athletes to keep their OBE's even if they have been banned for life from the British Olympic Association for testing positive to banned drugs
I believe the drug cheat warne tested positive in the build up to the world cup. Shortly after a miraculously quick recovery from a shoulder injury.
Who has tested positive and then kept an OBE?
Did Armstrong and Johnson test positive in all of those events or did they strip him of the titles anyway?
Linford Christie OBE
Armstrong was found guilty of systematic drug cheating , Johnson had those medals stripped.... Anyway the history books (fact ) will show Shane Warne has more international wickets then Stuart Broad... who would carry more weight on this ICC or GIAE for who has more wickets ...
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Fairly poor comparison but are you saying Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were disqualified and not recognised for any gold medals or races won ?
How is it a poor comparison? All 3 of them are convicted drug cheats.
I assume they had their titles stripped from them
Assume ?? Ben Johnson had his 1988 Olympic 100m, 1987 World Championships and 1987 World Indoor Championship Gold medal stripped but still retained all his other medals he won in other events,
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his 7 consecutive TDF but still retains his stage wins 1993,1995 and races inc 1993 World Road Race Championships...
so events they were found guilty they had titles taken from as expected, Was Shane Warne found guilty of performance enhancing drugs during a match ?
But I guess England allow their athletes to keep their OBE's even if they have been banned for life from the British Olympic Association for testing positive to banned drugs
I believe the drug cheat warne tested positive in the build up to the world cup. Shortly after a miraculously quick recovery from a shoulder injury.
Who has tested positive and then kept an OBE?
Did Armstrong and Johnson test positive in all of those events or did they strip him of the titles anyway?
Linford Christie OBE
Armstrong was found guilty of systematic drug cheating , Johnson had those medals stripped.... Anyway the history books (fact ) will show Shane Warne has more international wickets then Stuart Broad... who would carry more weight on this ICC or GIAE for who has more wickets ...
Wasn't Christie found not guilty?
You can claim the drug cheat if you really need to. Rather embarassing for you though.
I still can't believe I set a trap for you, you fell in and still trying to fight yout way out though.
bloodypassit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Fairly poor comparison but are you saying Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were disqualified and not recognised for any gold medals or races won ?
How is it a poor comparison? All 3 of them are convicted drug cheats.
I assume they had their titles stripped from them
Assume ?? Ben Johnson had his 1988 Olympic 100m, 1987 World Championships and 1987 World Indoor Championship Gold medal stripped but still retained all his other medals he won in other events,
Lance Armstrong was stripped of his 7 consecutive TDF but still retains his stage wins 1993,1995 and races inc 1993 World Road Race Championships...
so events they were found guilty they had titles taken from as expected, Was Shane Warne found guilty of performance enhancing drugs during a match ?
But I guess England allow their athletes to keep their OBE's even if they have been banned for life from the British Olympic Association for testing positive to banned drugs
I believe the drug cheat warne tested positive in the build up to the world cup. Shortly after a miraculously quick recovery from a shoulder injury.
Who has tested positive and then kept an OBE?
Did Armstrong and Johnson test positive in all of those events or did they strip him of the titles anyway?
Linford Christie OBE
Armstrong was found guilty of systematic drug cheating , Johnson had those medals stripped.... Anyway the history books (fact ) will show Shane Warne has more international wickets then Stuart Broad... who would carry more weight on this ICC or GIAE for who has more wickets ...
Wasn't Christie found not guilty?
You can claim the drug cheat if you really need to. Rather embarassing for you though.
I still can't believe I set a trap for you, you fell in and still trying to fight yout way out though.
