Yeh but surely the Aussies cheated and doctored the rain
I find it hilarious that the standard dreary weather could have cost the Poms the series, , and i say could have coz you never know if they Aussies would have held on
Another off to the Oval for the 5th test dead rubber
Not a dead rubber (5th test) to me, but the irony of their own weather (this time) working against them. Loving Piers Morgan's meltdowns.
I thought they would have declared earlier too, given they knew the importance of the match, and knowing the weather forecast.
Yeh but surely the Aussies cheated and doctored the rain
I find it hilarious that the standard dreary weather could have cost the Poms the series, , and i say could have coz you never know if they Aussies would have held on
Another off to the Oval for the 5th test dead rubber
Bomber wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:50 am
Not a dead rubber (5th test) to me, but the irony of their own weather (this time) working against them. Loving Piers Morgan's meltdowns.
I thought they would have declared earlier too, given they knew the importance of the match, and knowing the weather forecast.
Declaration wouldn't have made a difference. As it was still about time and an earlier declaration would have seen us 50 (??) Runs shorter and you would have then gone past our score in that time.
Disappointing for the only non close test to end in a draw but we now beat you at the Oval to extend the time that you haven't won a series in England.
This from Michael Vaughan, and then you wonder why they are called whinges
Bairstow still WHINGING about the stumping, move on FFS and stop eating all the pies, NEXT
“I always say in a five-match series the best team always wins ... it’s such a long process you always end up with the best team winning,” Vaughan said.
“I honestly think England have been the better team for the four matches.
“It’s the wrong way to decide a Test match, let alone an Ashes-defining Test match.
“I know we’ve beaten Australia a few times over the last 20 years but I don’t remember a Test match where England have completely dominated and bullied Australia.”
Rookie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:02 am
This from Michael Vaughan, and then you wonder why they are called whinges
Bairstow still WHINGING about the stumping, move on FFS and stop eating all the pies, NEXT
“I always say in a five-match series the best team always wins ... it’s such a long process you always end up with the best team winning,” Vaughan said.
“I honestly think England have been the better team for the four matches.
“It’s the wrong way to decide a Test match, let alone an Ashes-defining Test match.
“I know we’ve beaten Australia a few times over the last 20 years but I don’t remember a Test match where England have completely dominated and bullied Australia.”
Where is the whinge there?
This is the prime example of why you are great at whingeing but don't actually know what it is?
I'd love to know what part you disagree with in his comments.
Bomber wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:50 am
Not a dead rubber (5th test) to me, but the irony of their own weather (this time) working against them. Loving Piers Morgan's meltdowns.
I thought they would have declared earlier too, given they knew the importance of the match, and knowing the weather forecast.
Declaration wouldn't have made a difference. As it was still about time and an earlier declaration would have seen us 50 (??) Runs shorter and you would have then gone past our score in that time.
Disappointing for the only non close test to end in a draw but we now beat you at the Oval to extend the time that you haven't won a series in England.
It could have made a difference. We would have batted sooner, and maybe felt more pressure, its not like you can say that exactly the same situation (5/214) would have ensued, especially after the bad light/call for playing slow bowlers by the umpires when it happened.
Lets face it, england have played some pretty high risk cricket but sometimes I actually thought they bottled some key tactics especially when we looked under the pump.
Answer to your question:
Yes, the South african can be called a cheat. Shame the majority of england crowds won't say same about Broad, even though in Marnus's case, umpire review came up with the right decision, so no real injustice occurred.
Rookie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:02 am
This from Michael Vaughan, and then you wonder why they are called whinges
Bairstow still WHINGING about the stumping, move on FFS and stop eating all the pies, NEXT
“I always say in a five-match series the best team always wins ... it’s such a long process you always end up with the best team winning,” Vaughan said.
“I honestly think England have been the better team for the four matches.
“It’s the wrong way to decide a Test match, let alone an Ashes-defining Test match.
“I know we’ve beaten Australia a few times over the last 20 years but I don’t remember a Test match where England have completely dominated and bullied Australia.”
Where is the whinge there?
This is the prime example of why you are great at whingeing but don't actually know what it is?
I'd love to know what part you disagree with in his comments.
Wow, the Ozzies must of finally spoken to the Rain gods to save themselves.
The played soo bad, tehir bowling was a joke!
England was robbed!
Engalnd was the best team in that test, their bowling was amazing to watch!
This is a perfect example when the most deserving team didnt win!
Any Ozzie who celebrates the ashes on that performance, should hang their heads in shame.
Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium.
Michael wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:12 pm
Wow, the Ozzies must of finally spoken to the Rain gods to save themselves.
The played soo bad, tehir bowling was a joke!
England was robbed!
Engalnd was the best team in that test, their bowling was amazing to watch!
This is a perfect example when the most deserving team didnt win!
Any Ozzie who celebrates the ashes on that performance, should hang their heads in shame.
No the Ozzies will retain the Ashes on the fact they won the first 2 tests ....so I guess take a seat Michael if you understand the concept of a test series
Michael wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:12 pm
Wow, the Ozzies must of finally spoken to the Rain gods to save themselves.
The played soo bad, tehir bowling was a joke!
England was robbed!
Engalnd was the best team in that test, their bowling was amazing to watch!
This is a perfect example when the most deserving team didnt win!
Any Ozzie who celebrates the ashes on that performance, should hang their heads in shame.
No the Ozzies will retain the Ashes on the fact they won the first 2 tests ....so I guess take a seat Michael if you dont understand the concept of a test series
Michael wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:12 pm
Wow, the Ozzies must of finally spoken to the Rain gods to save themselves.
The played soo bad, tehir bowling was a joke!
England was robbed!
Engalnd was the best team in that test, their bowling was amazing to watch!
This is a perfect example when the most deserving team didnt win!
Any Ozzie who celebrates the ashes on that performance, should hang their heads in shame.
No the Ozzies will retain the Ashes on the fact they won the first 2 tests ....so I guess take a seat Michael if you understand the concept of a test series
Michael wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 12:12 pm
Wow, the Ozzies must of finally spoken to the Rain gods to save themselves.
The played soo bad, tehir bowling was a joke!
England was robbed!
Engalnd was the best team in that test, their bowling was amazing to watch!
This is a perfect example when the most deserving team didnt win!
Any Ozzie who celebrates the ashes on that performance, should hang their heads in shame.
No the Ozzies will retain the Ashes on the fact they won the first 2 tests ....so I guess take a seat Michael if you dont understand the concept of a test series
ok Boss....
Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium.
Rookie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:02 am
This from Michael Vaughan, and then you wonder why they are called whinges
Bairstow still WHINGING about the stumping, move on FFS and stop eating all the pies, NEXT
“I always say in a five-match series the best team always wins ... it’s such a long process you always end up with the best team winning,” Vaughan said.
“I honestly think England have been the better team for the four matches.
“It’s the wrong way to decide a Test match, let alone an Ashes-defining Test match.
“I know we’ve beaten Australia a few times over the last 20 years but I don’t remember a Test match where England have completely dominated and bullied Australia.”
Where is the whinge there?
This is the prime example of why you are great at whingeing but don't actually know what it is?
I'd love to know what part you disagree with in his comments.
MY GOD, you are an absolute peanut
Just to be clear, God is an Englishman but I'm not actually God. You don't need to call me that.
Whingeing Piers Morgan branded as a hypocritical flog by Merv Hughes after claiming there has never been ‘a less-deserved retention of the Ashes’ in ‘irrational rant’ following draw at Old Trafford
I assume England have by and large written the laws of cricket, yet oddly enough seem to be very critical of them in this series including legitimate stumpings, drawn test due to weather limiting game time.
2-1 down yet so many saying they are unlucky?
For me they can be thankful for being competitive against the world's number one ranked test team (who have been without their top line spinner in last couple). England have won the toss on each occasion, ordered certain pitches to their liking, crowd getting stuck in at any opportunity, but still couldn't break down the opposition.
I say well done Australia who yet could still take this out 3-1.
I might be old, senile, short sighted and a poor driver but give me some spinach and I'll have you for breakfast!
Popeye Magoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:29 pm
I assume England have by and large written the laws of cricket, yet oddly enough seem to be very critical of them in this series including legitimate stumpings, drawn test due to weather limiting game time.
2-1 down yet so many saying they are unlucky?
For me they can be thankful for being competitive against the world's number one ranked test team (who have been without their top line spinner in last couple). England have won the toss on each occasion, ordered certain pitches to their liking, crowd getting stuck in at any opportunity, but still couldn't break down the opposition.
I say well done Australia who yet could still take this out 3-1.
Both teams have had injury issues. We are without our top line spinner. As well as Robinson, Wood and Archer for all/a lot of the series.
Certain pitches orderered. Hahaha. Groundsman have said this didn't happen.
The MCC write the laws, not England. All sports have people making suggestions about changes. The playing until later or a spare day both seem sensible enough for discussion.
Crowd getting stuck in, so exactly what happens in australia then?
I'd say we've been more than competetive. 3 of the games could have been won by either team. Going into the 4th test, either team could have been 3-0 up.