EPL 20/21

[blue moon]

? Sterlings was a clear penalty, going a top speed and Fabinho got him with both legs

[ozzie owl]

? Sterlings was a clear penalty, going a top speed and Fabinho got him with both legs

IMO both penalties .

Alison two costly errors didnt help Liverpool.

Now they are trail Man City by 10 ( and game in hand).

[Facts and Stats]

They were both blatant penalties.

VAR didn't even get a mention for them.


Seriously ,mate, give up the trolling - it's worse than Grosso, me and GIAE combined. If you aren't trolling, you really have no idea about the game.

[predrag]

Just look at both players facials when going down,you would think somebody shot them,what a bunch of BS- artists,same goes for most fouls committed,makes the sport look stupid.Still good game City.

[Nice One Cyril]

Just look at both players facials when going down,you would think somebody shot them,what a bunch of BS- artists,same goes for most fouls committed,makes the sport look stupid.Still good game City.

It's funny how footballers become so unsteady on their feet once they get in the box. They seem to be able to brush off fairly robust grabs and tackles when in the middle of the pitch, but suddenly they go all floppy and the defenders need to just get out of the way.

It will get to the stage where managers will tell their defenders under no circumstances let them in the box with the ball, just kick them or rugby tackle them outside and take the card.

[ozzie owl]

Just look at both players facials when going down,you would think somebody shot them,what a bunch of BS- artists,same goes for most fouls committed,makes the sport look stupid.Still good game City.

It's funny how footballers become so unsteady on their feet once they get in the box. They seem to be able to brush off fairly robust grabs and tackles when in the middle of the pitch, but suddenly they go all floppy and the defenders need to just get out of the way.

It will get to the stage where managers will tell their defenders under no circumstances let them in the box with the ball, just kick them or rugby tackle them outside and take the card.

All referees have to do is to apply that if it wasn’t a free kick outside the box it’s not a penalty in the box. The problem with VAR is that VAR officials watch the incident in ultra slow mow , which makes any contact slight look worse ,

[Nice One Cyril]

Just look at both players facials when going down,you would think somebody shot them,what a bunch of BS- artists,same goes for most fouls committed,makes the sport look stupid.Still good game City.

It's funny how footballers become so unsteady on their feet once they get in the box. They seem to be able to brush off fairly robust grabs and tackles when in the middle of the pitch, but suddenly they go all floppy and the defenders need to just get out of the way.

It will get to the stage where managers will tell their defenders under no circumstances let them in the box with the ball, just kick them or rugby tackle them outside and take the card.

All referees have to do is to apply that if it wasn’t a free kick outside the box it’s not a penalty in the box. The problem with VAR is that VAR officials watch the incident in ultra slow mow , which makes any contact slight look worse ,

True, but the counter argument to that is refs should be giving fouls in the box exactly as they give them anywhere else. It's all about consistency and it's up to the ref on the day to decide what level and type of contact is just part of the game.

[theorakle]

look the game used to be MANLY, now its not. too many sofkoks nowadays. only the coaches will stop but only if they are FORCED to do so. solution. refs to red card divers and shirt grabbers early in the game and the horrible practise will soon stop. coaches will not condone this kraap any more. as an old coach the worst thing for me was going a man down. it has to be stopped for the games sake cos kids are doing it now. they watch their seniors and know no better. the game needs to be cleaned up asap so the game can become MANLY again as it was when the poms gave it to the world to stuff up.

[theorakle]

unfortunately the powers that be in the world game seem to like it this way as they seem to condone it. i mean just what have they ever done to try and stop it. please make the actors return to the stage before we have coaches conducting diving schools for kids.

[N5 1BH]

EPL is rapidly losing its soul, focus should have been on young Fodens display but once again incompetent refs and tools like salah & sterling take centre stage. Watching the Norwich v Swansea game on the weekend. Maybe an offside maybe not, maybe a foul inside the box maybe not. Game goes on regardless, so much better than epl

[haywood djablowme]

EPL is rapidly losing its soul, focus should have been on young Fodens display but once again incompetent refs and tools like salah & sterling take centre stage. Watching the Norwich v Swansea game on the weekend. Maybe an offside maybe not, maybe a foul inside the box maybe not. Game goes on regardless, so much better than epl

Agree 100%
Far more enjoyable watching EFL games, proper football

[Bomber]

EPL is rapidly losing its soul, focus should have been on young Fodens display but once again incompetent refs and tools like salah & sterling take centre stage. Watching the Norwich v Swansea game on the weekend. Maybe an offside maybe not, maybe a foul inside the box maybe not. Game goes on regardless, so much better than epl

Agree 100%
Far more enjoyable watching EFL games, proper football

I've given up on (watching) any league that uses VAR. Still hope Liverpool win etc, but highlights only now

[eagleboy]

Liverpool moving along smoothly.

[Animosity]

Allison is a living meme

[eagleboy]

Allison is a living meme

Would his pass to Vardy count as an assist.

[N5 1BH]

By all accounts, if they'd have paid salah's two early dives it would have been a different story. It's just not fair

[Del Boca Vista]

its at the stage where if you can't tell prem games are just fixed television productions, you aren't thinking very clearly about it. watch 10 minutes of a bundesliga game or somethingand the way it ebbs and flows reminds you of real football games we watch on the weekends with our sons/brothers/whatever in state league. the ref's in the prem are trying to make a good spectacle for TV audiences.

[N5 1BH]

There'll be timeouts next

[pernunz]

[ozzie owl]

Everton earned their first derby win anywhere since 2010, while Liverpool have now lost four successive home matches for the first time since 1923.

[Nice One Cyril]

Had to laugh at OGS "we wuz robbed" this morning. How he could say that with a straight face is impressive after all the penalties they've been awarded for someone breathing on their forward.

[Facts and Stats]

I wonder why NOC hasn’t posted about Mane being hacked yet staying on his feet?

Doesnt suit his agenda does it.

[Nice One Cyril]

I wonder why NOC hasn’t posted about Mane being hacked yet staying on his feet?

Doesnt suit his agenda does it.

Gimme a chance, I've only just got out of bed. Can't write scathing comments without a coffee

[Nice One Cyril]

I wonder why NOC hasn’t posted about Mane being hacked yet staying on his feet?

Doesnt suit his agenda does it.

I've just watched the mini match and didn't see it, was it in the box? What minute was it in, it obviously didn't warrant a highlight?

EDIT: Just seen it but it took a bit of finding. 'Hacked' is a bit of a stretch, especially considering that by the time minimal contact was made the ball was already over the line, however I agree that had Mane dived theatrically like normal, he probably would have got a pen. I can only assume that at 2-0 up with three minutes to go, he felt like it wasn't required to cheat.

It does make you wonder though, if he can stand up perfectly well with that level of contact, even though it wasn't much, how he manages to go down like a felled oak when someone touches his toe?

[Facts and Stats]

I can’t remember when but I will look for it it. He rode a blatant foul, didn’t stumble but over ran the ball. Commentary mentioned it would have been clear pen if he went down . It was 0-0 at the time .

You know me, I will find it…..

[ozzie owl]

I wonder why NOC hasn’t posted about Mane being hacked yet staying on his feet?

Doesnt suit his agenda does it.

I've just watched the mini match and didn't see it, was it in the box? What minute was it in, it obviously didn't warrant a highlight?

No way was that a hack , but yes he could have gone over . It was in the 87th minute , with Liverpool up 2-0.

[Nice One Cyril]

I can’t remember when but I will look for it it. He rode a blatant foul, didn’t stumble but over ran the ball. Commentary mentioned it would have been clear pen if he went down . It was 0-0 at the time .

You know me, I will find it…..

I edited my above post. It wasn't at 0-0 it was at 2-0 in the 87th minute assuming we're talking about the same incident.

[Nice One Cyril]

I wonder why NOC hasn’t posted about Mane being hacked yet staying on his feet?

Doesnt suit his agenda does it.

I've just watched the mini match and didn't see it, was it in the box? What minute was it in, it obviously didn't warrant a highlight?

No way was that a hack , but yes he could have gone over . It was in the 87th minute , with Liverpool up 2-0.

I suspect that, had it been earlier and 0-0, the sniper would have been up and about, arms would have been flung in the air, knees would have gone weak and he would have collapsed as is his way.

[Facts and Stats]

Yes I was about to edit my post about it being being 87th min.

https://www.givemesport.com/1654818-she ... in-penalty

It’s why players do go down when touched usually, refs don’t give penalties if they don’t. It’s not diving but ensuring the current rules are kept. Diving is when no contact and you fall over . If mane had got the penalty maybe players would realise they don’t need to ensure refs do the right thing? Also unsure why VAR didn’t give it, was it due to it being 2-0?

[Nice One Cyril]

Yes I was about to edit my post about it being being 87th min.

https://www.givemesport.com/1654818-she ... in-penalty

It’s why players do go down when touched usually, refs don’t give penalties if they don’t. It’s not diving but ensuring the current rules are kept. Diving is when no contact and you fall over . If mane had got the penalty maybe players would realise they don’t need to ensure refs do the right thing? Also unsure why VAR didn’t give it, was it due to it being 2-0?

Football is supposed to be a contact sport and a reasonable level of contact is to be expected, you don't have to be knocked off your feet, but equally a gentle tap or slight upper body contact is not necessarily a foul. VAR has ensured that we now have a different definition of a foul depending on whether it's in the box or not. It was always a bit like that, but it's now become a slow, forensic investigation where a stray bootlace can knock a fit young man to the ground. Much as I like to wind you up with Salah and Mane, all forwards without exception do it to some extent. Had that Mane incident occurred in the midfield and he'd run on to get the ball would it have been a foul? Almost certainly not, yet in the box it somehow becomes a penalty.

I'm just watching the Everton game and for Richarlison's goal, Calvert-Lewin wins the ball and twats the defender across the face with his hand. It's accidental and for me nowhere near a foul and the goal correctly stood, but the level of contact was about 10 times that required to make a forward collapse.

I think it spoils the essence of the game when you take the contact away.