God is an Englishman wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 12:07 pm
thebeautifulgame wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 8:27 pm
Bomber wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 8:48 am
As much as I cringe re Celtic, this is the logical outcome given the percentage of games already played.
Fair assumption on the outcome but why the 'cringe factor' regarding Celtic? This club has deep Irish Catholic roots but have always been open to employ not only Catholics, but Protestants, Muslims, Hindus etc. and have never discriminated against race, religion etc.
On the other hand Rangers REFUSED to sign a Catholic until July 1989 when Souness had the balls to sign Maurice Johnston,
over 117 YEARS since the club were established in March 1872.
In my opinion the cringe factor applies to the other side.
1. Celtic have refused to have a poppy on their shirts
2. Celtic fans have chanted about the deaths of British soldiers
3. Celtic fans have chanted pro terrorist songs.
4. Celtic fans have boo'd remembrance day services.
5. Celtic fans fly the flag of another nation, instead of their own.
1. On some occasions yes and others no. The Club itself respect the poppy appeal and contribute to it every year without fail.
2. Yes, some have but the vast majority have not. Due to the Irish connection and personal experiences (a couple of hundred travel from Ireland to most home games) some feel justified to sing songs of hatred. In my opinion (along with the majority of other Celtic fans) songs of this nature should be stamped out completely. They are an embarrassment to the decent supporters and the club itself. Celtic have attempted to resolve this issue with some success though it is more difficult to control at away games.
3. Yes, due to history between the Irish Catholics and the British Empire there is bad blood which will always linger. Faults on both sides of the divide so to speak. Most of us sit on one side of the fence or the other. Due to my upbringing I can comfortably see both sides of the argument. During the Irish Potato Famine of 1845-1849 (caused by the British Empire and regarded in history as Genocide) approximately 1 million Irish Catholic peasants perished. I would assume that most Irish Catholics (of which I am not) would be pretty pissed off about that so to speak.
4. Yes, some have but the vast majority and the Club itself respect the Remembrance Day Service.
5. Yes and No as both flags are flown. This is a personal choice and the Irish flags on show displays the respect of their ancestors- no shame in that. Due to the famine 1 million Catholics emigrated, 29% of them settled in Glasgow. If you can't see the connection and the reason for the flying Irish flags then so be it.
Now I'm done explaining facts to a Millwall supporter!
P.S. My question was to Bomber, I'm sure he is big enough to answer for himself!
