Nicky_Tanner wrote:The Hollioakes are/were as Australian as you can get - yet they chose to play for England so they could get a game. Ed Joyce has swung from Ireland to England back to Ireland.
I don't see how its that different.
Both of the Hollioakes' parents were English. RIP Ben
Nicky_Tanner wrote:The Hollioakes are/were as Australian as you can get - yet they chose to play for England so they could get a game. Ed Joyce has swung from Ireland to England back to Ireland.
I don't see how its that different.
Both of the Hollioakes' parents were English. RIP Ben
Yes, but they were very Australian and Adam moved straight back after his career.
I reckon he will be a Socceroos not 3lions fan in the WC.
Nicky_Tanner wrote:
As my teachers used to put in red to me, 'please explain'.
Cricket is played by a handful of countries and has a complex eligibility system to try to grow the game in associate countries. Though even it does not allow a player who has played for one country at youth level to play for another until after a 4 year qualifying period and the likes of Woodburn would have to actually live in Wales if he wanted to play for them.
Football is played by every country so growth is not the issue, strength in depth is. Invest in fly in fly out foreign mercenaries from EPL/Bundesliga/Ligue 1 or invest in your own people. One allows corrupt and/or lacklustre associations to achieve the level of competent mediocrity that is suffocating international football, the other inspires like Belgium or Iceland.
I see where you are coming from, but England have had many players from other cricket playing nations - players pick and choose too easily. And Woodburn is Welsh through family isn't he? Nothing to do with where he has lived - which is not Wales.
The Hollioakes are/were as Australian as you can get - yet they chose to play for England so they could get a game. Ed Joyce has swung from Ireland to England back to Ireland.
I don't see how its that different.
English cricket chasing foreigners in the 90s was plain embarrassing and a complete failure. It was only when the ECB finally pulled it’s head out of it’s arse and put real effort into developing their own players did success come. The South African Pieterson had to serve a 4 year qualification period living in England to qualify to play for England. In cricket a British passport holder has to live for a certain period in the home country he wants to play for.
N5 1BH wrote:English cricket chasing foreigners in the 90s was plain embarrassing and a complete failure. It was only when the ECB finally pulled it’s head out of it’s muscat and put real effort into developing their own players did success come. The South African Pieterson had to serve a 4 year qualification period living in England to qualify to play for England. In cricket a British passport holder has to live for a certain period in the home country he wants to play for.
KP has an English mother, so he's definitely English. However, you're right about the qualification period. Even English people have to serve it.
Con M wrote:New Name Not Needed, were you surprised that very versatile Liverpool player, James Milner wasn’t included by Plodder Southgate?
Milner should DEFINTELY be in the squad. But has already retired.
Lallana injured. Barely played all season. Sucks for him but the decision makes sense.
Henderson was actually given it, but Kane took it off him.
What makes Kane such a god captain? He can't even lead his team to a final.....
Second rate captain!
I generally prefer a central defender or the 6 to be the captain, only because the game is all in front of them, but each to his own.
"The game is about glory, doing things in style and with a flourish, going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
Danny Blanchflower
Con M wrote:New Name Not Needed, were you surprised that very versatile Liverpool player, James Milner wasn’t included by Plodder Southgate?
Milner should DEFINTELY be in the squad. But has already retired.
Lallana injured. Barely played all season. Sucks for him but the decision makes sense.
Con M wrote:New Name Not Needed, were you surprised that very versatile Liverpool player, James Milner wasn’t included by Plodder Southgate?
Milner should DEFINTELY be in the squad. But has already retired.
Lallana injured. Barely played all season. Sucks for him but the decision makes sense.
Just don't see what Wellback adds to the squad.
Welbeck brings experience and goals . He has scored more than Kane and scored more than Vardy, Rashford & Sterling combined. Welbeck 38 games 15 goals, sterling 38 games 2 goals
i haven't read the link but clearly you don't get the Kane joke. Instead of worrying about the foreigners and money keep up to date with football humour.
Allez Allez Allez wrote:i haven't read the link but clearly you don't get the Kane joke. Instead of worrying about the foreigners and money keep up to date with football humour.
Don't worry I got it.
However, if anyone was going to steal it would have been one your scally mates. (You may need to look up what that means)
ozzie owl wrote:England v Costa Rica at Elland Road Thursday evening is the third time England have played there.
Previous matches :
1995 England 3 Sweden 3
2002 England 1 Italy 2.
So a bit of a struggle, much like the club side that plays there.
Awesome goal by Rashford and was the best attacking player for England and on last nights performance Henderson should start ahead of Dier for the opening WC game.