The Ashes - 2017/2018
Moderators: Randoman, Ernie Cooksey, Forum Admins
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
The Ashes - 2017/2018
Any early predictions? I can see it being a very close series - almost too hard to call. Winning the toss alone could prove huge.
3-2 Australia
3-2 Australia
Ignore this signature
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Bomber wrote:Any early predictions? I can see it being a very close series - almost too hard to call. Winning the toss alone could prove huge.
3-2 Australia
England to win 3-2 if Stokes plays
England to lose 5-0 if he doesn't
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Have you seen us play lately? I know we're at home but even a Stokes-less english side wouldn't (or shouldn't) get caned 5-0God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:Any early predictions? I can see it being a very close series - almost too hard to call. Winning the toss alone could prove huge.
3-2 Australia
England to win 3-2 if Stokes plays
England to lose 5-0 if he doesn't
Ignore this signature
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Have you seen England play recently. Fragile top order, decent middle and lower order (weakened seriously without stokes) amd only really 2 and a bit bowlers. One of whom has never performed well on aussie wickets.Bomber wrote:Have you seen us play lately? I know we're at home but even a Stokes-less english side wouldn't (or shouldn't) get caned 5-0God is an Englishman wrote:Bomber wrote:Any early predictions? I can see it being a very close series - almost too hard to call. Winning the toss alone could prove huge.
3-2 Australia
England to win 3-2 if Stokes plays
England to lose 5-0 if he doesn't
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Looks like a middle ranked test nation v another middle ranked test nation based on current form, so still see it as being close.
I'll go for an upset loss at Gabba (has to happen eventually), wins in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne and a loss in the dead rubber in Sydney.
I'll go for an upset loss at Gabba (has to happen eventually), wins in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne and a loss in the dead rubber in Sydney.
Ignore this signature
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
For once I thought cricket australia were being decent giving England a D/N 4 day game at Adelaide Oval. Then I realised that there's a "international rules" game on it the day before. Presumably that means the drop in pitch won't be used for the game then. Sneaky CA, SNEAKY.
and you won't lose in Brisbane, that's the reason you play the first test in Brisbane to catch visiting sides on the hop with that wicket.
and you won't lose in Brisbane, that's the reason you play the first test in Brisbane to catch visiting sides on the hop with that wicket.
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Seems a pretty decent wicket usually to me. Has a bit of bounce early on, swing (especially on a typical Brisbane day) and reasonably kind to spin even on day 1 and 2. I think tourists have a mental problem with the wicket rather than what it actually comes up at. Like I said, winning the toss will be a decent advantage.God is an Englishman wrote:For once I thought cricket australia were being decent giving England a D/N 4 day game at Adelaide Oval. Then I realised that there's a "international rules" game on it the day before. Presumably that means the drop in pitch won't be used for the game then. Sneaky CA, SNEAKY.
and you won't lose in Brisbane, that's the reason you play the first test in Brisbane to catch visiting sides on the hop with that wicket.
Ignore this signature
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
It's also the heat and humidity, can be a struggle for an English team coming out of winter. Gabba is lively and has a lot of bounce (as you've said) can take some getting used to if you're not used to aussie wickets.Bomber wrote:Seems a pretty decent wicket usually to me. Has a bit of bounce early on, swing (especially on a typical Brisbane day) and reasonably kind to spin even on day 1 and 2. I think tourists have a mental problem with the wicket rather than what it actually comes up at. Like I said, winning the toss will be a decent advantage.God is an Englishman wrote:For once I thought cricket australia were being decent giving England a D/N 4 day game at Adelaide Oval. Then I realised that there's a "international rules" game on it the day before. Presumably that means the drop in pitch won't be used for the game then. Sneaky CA, SNEAKY.
and you won't lose in Brisbane, that's the reason you play the first test in Brisbane to catch visiting sides on the hop with that wicket.
England need to start playing the same games that CA do and not give touring sides any time in the middle at test venues. As I said, I'll be interested to see if it's the drop in pitch when we play in Adelaide and if so, how will a game of "aussie rules" affect it.
- Diabetic Squirrels
- Boot Polisher
- Posts: 97
- Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:06 pm
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Is that a euphemism for bat and ball?
We'll eat your cake and shít snickers
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
It's amusing me at the moment that all the aussies are talking about the abuse they're going to give. Minimal mentions of batting, bowling and fielding.B.Toomer wrote:Seems that between changing feet, Warner is at it again. Talking like the feral that he is.
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Actions speak louder than wordsGod is an Englishman wrote:It's amusing me at the moment that all the aussies are talking about the abuse they're going to give. Minimal mentions of batting, bowling and fielding.B.Toomer wrote:Seems that between changing feet, Warner is at it again. Talking like the feral that he is.
Ignore this signature
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
or as an aussie mate said - you always talk up the bits you're actually good atBomber wrote:Actions speak louder than wordsGod is an Englishman wrote:It's amusing me at the moment that all the aussies are talking about the abuse they're going to give. Minimal mentions of batting, bowling and fielding.B.Toomer wrote:Seems that between changing feet, Warner is at it again. Talking like the feral that he is.
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
to be fair, the cons are pretty good with home advantage.B.Toomer wrote:Remind me again, who holds the ashes?
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Nevertheless the pitches will be varied and give all types a decent chance at some point.God is an Englishman wrote:to be fair, the cons are pretty good with home advantage.B.Toomer wrote:Remind me again, who holds the ashes?
Ignore this signature
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Bomber wrote:Nevertheless the pitches will be varied and give all types a decent chance at some point.God is an Englishman wrote:to be fair, the cons are pretty good with home advantage.B.Toomer wrote:Remind me again, who holds the ashes?
- Bomber
- Vice Chairman
- Posts: 60529
- Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:40 am
- Has thanked: 46 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Pick your team for first test?:
My team I'd opt for:
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Stoinis
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon
12th: Behrendorff
My team I'd opt for:
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Stoinis
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon
12th: Behrendorff
Ignore this signature
-
- Coach
- Posts: 22039
- Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
- Has thanked: 231 times
- Been thanked: 67 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Only two (Warner and Smith) from of the top six left from the 2015 Ashes side.Bomber wrote:Pick your team for first test?:
My team I'd opt for:
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Stoinis
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon
12th: Behrendorff
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Who are you supporting?ozzie owl wrote:Only two (Warner and Smith) from of the top six left from the 2015 Ashes side.Bomber wrote:Pick your team for first test?:
My team I'd opt for:
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Stoinis
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon
12th: Behrendorff
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
You've only named 9 australians in the starting XI, surely that's an error.Bomber wrote:Pick your team for first test?:
My team I'd opt for:
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Stoinis
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Hazelwood
Lyon
12th: Behrendorff
- Doodleoodlen
- Ball Boy
- Posts: 19
- Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:35 am
- Been thanked: 1 time
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
-
- Coach
- Posts: 22039
- Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:42 am
- Has thanked: 231 times
- Been thanked: 67 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
Finn and Ali injured and will miss opening tour match .
The sad part of the modern crowded cricket calender is the fact that touring sides get so few lead up matches prior to the first test. This issue is the same all over the world and with more and more 20/20 tournaments it won't change.
The sad part of the modern crowded cricket calender is the fact that touring sides get so few lead up matches prior to the first test. This issue is the same all over the world and with more and more 20/20 tournaments it won't change.
- God is an Englishman
- Board Member
- Posts: 51452
- Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 5:31 pm
- Has thanked: 24 times
- Been thanked: 85 times
Re: The Ashes - 2017/2018
The lack of warm up games has been an issue for some time, well before 20/20ozzie owl wrote:Finn and Ali injured and will miss opening tour match .
The sad part of the modern crowded cricket calender is the fact that touring sides get so few lead up matches prior to the first test. This issue is the same all over the world and with more and more 20/20 tournaments it won't change.