Australia picking Englishmen

[God is an Englishman]

4 of today's 11 were born overseas. Surely that's not allowed judging by Australia's recent complaints against other nations (but only when they have been beaten by those other nations.... )

Who is the 4th? Khawaja, Renshaw, Cartwright and... ?

O'Keefe

OK, born in Malaysia I see. I'll hold fire on counting him until we know the parentage though, pretty sure he's not Malaysian. Assumption would be irish obviously.

[God is an Englishman]

O'Keefe

OK, born in Malaysia I see. I'll hold fire on counting him until we know the parentage though, pretty sure he's not Malaysian. Assumption would be irish obviously.

Whilst I can't get a definitive answer - he was born in Malaysia due to his father having a job in the Air Force. It doesn't specify which Air Force though. My thinking on this is that he is Australian though.

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Who is the 4th? Khawaja, Renshaw, Cartwright and... ?

O'Keefe

OK, born in Malaysia I see. I'll hold fire on counting him until we know the parentage though, pretty sure he's not Malaysian. Assumption would be irish obviously.

O'Keefe became the first Australian Test player born in Malaysia, a result of his father's work for the Royal Australian Air Force.

This 3 year old story has Australia at 23 overseas born players. (now 25 with Cartwright)

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/stephen- ... 2014-10-22

England would probably have more than that if they counted India & South Africa only. They've had their 66th player born overseas debut.

[God is an Englishman]

O'Keefe became the first Australian Test player born in Malaysia, a result of his father's work for the Royal Australian Air Force.

This 3 year old story has Australia at 23 overseas born players. (now 25 with Cartwright)

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/stephen- ... 2014-10-22

England would probably have more than that if they counted India & South Africa only. They've had their 66th player born overseas debut.

As per the above, being born overseas doesn't bother me. England would have more but I would consider O'Keefe to be Australian, the same as KP is English.

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O'Keefe became the first Australian Test player born in Malaysia, a result of his father's work for the Royal Australian Air Force.

This 3 year old story has Australia at 23 overseas born players. (now 25 with Cartwright)

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/stephen- ... 2014-10-22

England would probably have more than that if they counted India & South Africa only. They've had their 66th player born overseas debut.

As per the above, being born overseas doesn't bother me. England would have more but I would consider O'Keefe to be Australian, the same as KP is English.

That's fine. But remember, this convo started cos Old Redback said we have 4/11 born overseas.

(Australia's first ever Test side had 6/11 - so it's just keeping with history) ;)

[God is an Englishman]

That's fine. But remember, this convo started cos Old Redback said we have 4/11 born overseas.

(Australia's first ever Test side had 6/11 - so it's just keeping with history) ;)

Yes, but I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't consider O'Keefe to be Australian.

Which game is considered to be their first test match? I was under the belief that the first Australian team contained 11 Englishman.

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That's fine. But remember, this convo started cos Old Redback said we have 4/11 born overseas.

(Australia's first ever Test side had 6/11 - so it's just keeping with history) ;)

Yes, but I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't consider O'Keefe to be Australian.

Which game is considered to be their first test match? I was under the belief that the first Australian team contained 11 Englishman.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/c ... 62396.html

Thomson the opener was born in NSW. So you are wrong there
(Gregory x2, Garrett & Blackham the others)

[God is an Englishman]

That's fine. But remember, this convo started cos Old Redback said we have 4/11 born overseas.

(Australia's first ever Test side had 6/11 - so it's just keeping with history) ;)

Yes, but I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't consider O'Keefe to be Australian.

Which game is considered to be their first test match? I was under the belief that the first Australian team contained 11 Englishman.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/c ... 62396.html

Thomson the opener was born in NSW. So you are wrong there
(Gregory x2, Garrett & Blackham the others)

I did say "I was under the belief", So I never stated it as fact

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Yes, but I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't consider O'Keefe to be Australian.

Which game is considered to be their first test match? I was under the belief that the first Australian team contained 11 Englishman.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/c ... 62396.html

Thomson the opener was born in NSW. So you are wrong there
(Gregory x2, Garrett & Blackham the others)

I did say "I was under the belief", So I never stated it as fact

Your beliefs can still be wrong.

[God is an Englishman]

Your beliefs can still be wrong.

Yes, but I believe I covered myself by not claiming it as a fact. "Under the belief" gives that scope for doubt.

[Bomber]

Your beliefs can still be wrong.

Yes, but I believe I covered myself by not claiming it as a fact. "Under the belief" gives that scope for doubt.

That's why politicians use the term "I (or we) believe......blah blah blah" and then if/when challenged later on they deny any such "promise".

[MegaBonus]

how much do you think the Paki's had on themselves to be all out by Tea????

[Guinness Farts]

how much do you think the Paki's had on themselves to be all out by Tea????

I was thinking along those lines after the second test.

[God is an Englishman]

how much do you think the Paki's had on themselves to be all out by Tea????

No need for racism

[Apprentice25]

You call that racism?

[God is an Englishman]

You call that racism?

Yes, courts have found people guilty of it as well.

[MegaBonus]

australian courts or pommie courts???

[Nonami Maho]

You call that racism?

Yes, courts have found people guilty of it as well.

The apostrophe just means there are letters missing.

[God is an Englishman]

australian courts or pommie courts???

More racism

[Wayne Kerr]

australian courts or pommie courts???

More racism

Talk about being handed bad luck, Not only a pom but a stupid one as well!

[God is an Englishman]

australian courts or pommie courts???

More racism

Talk about being handed bad luck, Not only a pom but a stupid one as well!

"To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life."

It's stupid to highlight racism?

[Wayne Kerr]

Talk about being handed bad luck, Not only a pom but a stupid one as well!

[God is an Englishman]

Talk about being handed bad luck, Not only a pom but a stupid one as well!

Another one who can't answer a simple question

"To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life."

It's stupid to highlight racism?

[Wayne Kerr]

Talk about being handed bad luck, Not only a pom but a stupid one as well!

Another one who can't answer a simple question

"To be born English is to win first prize in the lottery of life."

It's stupid to highlight racism?

Stupid is someone who thinks their race is better than another.

Talk about being handed bad luck, Not only a pom but a stupid one as well!

[God is an Englishman]

It's stupid to highlight racism?

[Delete Your Account]

It's stupid to highlight racism?

No.

Is calling some a bubble racist?

[God is an Englishman]

It's stupid to highlight racism?

No.

Is calling some a bubble racist?

No

[Delete Your Account]

It's stupid to highlight racism?

No.

Is calling some a bubble racist?

No

So why is pom racist?

[God is an Englishman]

So why is pom racist?

because it's defined as a "derogatory" term

[Daijayama Matsuri]

Racism doesn't have to be derogatory.