NPL points deduction for Sturt - Carter wake up!

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NPL points deduction for Sturt - Carter wake up!

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Hey can someone go in and wake up Michael Carter at his desk pls?!
Not only is it pi$$ weak that basically everyone associated with womens prem football has known that Sturt don't/didn't/never have made the criteria for NPL but yet the womems competition coordinators at Ffsa didn't know...
Here's the NPL terms as below

Minimum Requirement
Each club is required to field the following junior girls teams;
a. At least one team in each age group of Under 13, 15 and 17
b. At least two girls or mixed MiniRoos teams in the following
age groups - Under 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 or Under 11

Non-Compliance
a. If a club fails to nominate any of the required junior teams, the club will not be permitted into the Women’s National Premier League Competition. Consideration may be given to permit the club to participate in the State League if the competition criteria is fulfilled.

b. If a club withdraws one or more of the required junior teams once the club has completed the nomination form or once the season has commenced, three competition points will be deducted from the Senior Grade Team for each junior team that is withdrawn. The relevant competition withdrawal fine will also be applied.

c. If a club fails to nominate the required MiniRoos Teams, one competition point will be deducted from the Senior Grade Team for each MiniRoos Team that is required to meet the criteria. –

d. If a club withdraws one or more of the required MiniRoos teams once the season has commenced, one competition point will be deducted from the Senior Grade Team for each MiniRoos team that is withdrawn. The relevant withdrawal fine will also be applied.


When is FFSA going to announce the points deduction for Sturt NPL team having withdrawn its NPL required U17 team that FFSA own rules have set in place??

Michael wake up!
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I'll have a word with a certain M Carter later.
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Dont forget the other Carter.
Has a lot of influence.
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Princess Fiona wrote:Hey can someone go in and wake up Michael Carter at his desk pls?!
Not only is it pi$$ weak that basically everyone associated with womens prem football has known that Sturt don't/didn't/never have made the criteria for NPL but yet the womems competition coordinators at Ffsa didn't know...
Here's the NPL terms as below

Minimum Requirement
Each club is required to field the following junior girls teams;
a. At least one team in each age group of Under 13, 15 and 17
b. At least two girls or mixed MiniRoos teams in the following
age groups - Under 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 or Under 11

Non-Compliance
a. If a club fails to nominate any of the required junior teams, the club will not be permitted into the Women’s National Premier League Competition. Consideration may be given to permit the club to participate in the State League if the competition criteria is fulfilled.

b. If a club withdraws one or more of the required junior teams once the club has completed the nomination form or once the season has commenced, three competition points will be deducted from the Senior Grade Team for each junior team that is withdrawn. The relevant competition withdrawal fine will also be applied.

c. If a club fails to nominate the required MiniRoos Teams, one competition point will be deducted from the Senior Grade Team for each MiniRoos Team that is required to meet the criteria. –

d. If a club withdraws one or more of the required MiniRoos teams once the season has commenced, one competition point will be deducted from the Senior Grade Team for each MiniRoos team that is withdrawn. The relevant withdrawal fine will also be applied.


When is FFSA going to announce the points deduction for Sturt NPL team having withdrawn its NPL required U17 team that FFSA own rules have set in place??

Michael wake up!
The picture comes clearer now ... nominate for the WNPL, put your hand on heart and state you meet the criteria, lie, get accepted, then when the season starts, come clean and you only cop a 3 point penalty (in a 21 round comp) and a paltry fine, and you get to stay in the WNPL.

Its a slap on the wrist, and one that Sturt would no doubt have been fully aware of.

Lie, take the three point hit but you get to survive and play in the WNPL. Small price to pay hey?

The true outrage is that we all knew BEFORE the season started, Sturt didn't meet the criteria, but it appears this was the strategy all along.

Someone at FFSA has a hell of alot of explaining to do.

Michael Carter where are you???
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I've been calling this for months for what it is.

A CIRCUS :clown: :clown: :clown:

South, Comets and the other State League clubs, you have been played for mugs.

End of the season, if promotion/relegation is removed (would not surprise me), just lie as much as you can and get in, and then cop the 3 point penalty.

The precedence has been set.

What FFSA is waiting for, I have no idea.

An open letter from the CEO to all the clubs explaining how the decision making process failed when everyone else knew what the FFSA didn't would be a very good starting point.
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The Competitions' Operations Manager should be the one presenting this to the CEO.

The CEO is there to run the organisation overall, not to check on every rule. That why there are staff.

The Competition staff should be forcing this rule.
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BeNatural wrote:The Competitions' Operations Manager should be the one presenting this to the CEO.

The CEO is there to run the organisation overall, not to check on every rule. That why there are staff.

The Competition staff should be forcing this rule.
Well agree with you there!
But its been 2 weeks and still no announcement from the competition staff enforcing their own rules.
Wake up the CEO and make sure his staff are enforcing the rules.
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BeNatural wrote:The Competitions' Operations Manager should be the one presenting this to the CEO.

The CEO is there to run the organisation overall, not to check on every rule. That why there are staff.

The Competition staff should be forcing this rule.
Would make Sturt -6 after 3 rounds.

Bit of a mountain to climb
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Journeyman wrote:
BeNatural wrote:The Competitions' Operations Manager should be the one presenting this to the CEO.

The CEO is there to run the organisation overall, not to check on every rule. That why there are staff.

The Competition staff should be forcing this rule.
Would make Sturt -6 after 3 rounds.

Bit of a mountain to climb
They knew the equation going into the comp. That was the plan.

Rest assured they would have been delighted to trade a 3 point deduction for getting into the WNPL. Small price to pay.
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Wunkar Fox wrote:I'll have a word with a certain M Carter later.
I met him yesterday and completely forgot about this.
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Journeyman wrote:
BeNatural wrote:The Competitions' Operations Manager should be the one presenting this to the CEO.

The CEO is there to run the organisation overall, not to check on every rule. That why there are staff.

The Competition staff should be forcing this rule.
Would make Sturt -6 after 3 rounds.

Bit of a mountain to climb

Yes whenever things get tough just remember things could be worse ... You could be TB
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Nominate then withdraw seems to be the way to go in the future.
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Danny Way wrote:Nominate, lie and then withdraw seems to be the way to go in the future.
FIXED :wink:
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Any updates on the points deduction?
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Points deduction! By the FFSA's own criteria they should not even be in the WNPL. But this is the FFSA and Sturt Marion we are discussing here. Does anyone that has been following the womens game in this state for any length of time, seriously expect any other outcome from a controlling body that does not appear to have the backbone to control ?
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sportsbird wrote:Dont forget the other Carter.
Has a lot of influence.
yeah I think the Mrs wears the pants in the Federation House. :wink:
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Danny Way wrote:Points deduction! By the FFSA's own criteria they should not even be in the WNPL. But this is the FFSA and Sturt Marion we are discussing here. Does anyone that has been following the womens game in this state for any length of time, seriously expect any other outcome from a controlling body that does not appear to have the backbone to control ?
The only logical reason (apart from incompetence and arrogance) that the FFSA has not applied the points penalty, is that an internal investigation is being undertaken to understand why FFSA did not act on what everyone knew publicly for 6 months, that Sturt never, ever met the criteria. We can only hope its the latter.

This is what you get from an organisation that does what it pleases, without transparency or accountability. How else can one justify telling clubs that Sturt has made the criteria because Sturt said it did?

Aside from the mandatory points deduction for not fielding a u/17 side, when will Sturt also be brought to account for their misleading conduct in falsely gaining admission to the WNPL?

Sturt either lied or told the FFSA who didn't act. Happy to hear any other plausible theories. Either way, the truth needs to be told to all the stakeholder clubs and if any have transgressed, the appropriate repercussions brought down. What, did Sturt realise that suddenly after the start of the WNPL team that they didn't meet the criteria?

How this circus continues without any action is beyond me.
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Points have been deducted, table updated
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Rightside wrote:Points have been deducted, table updated
So it has.
Why does Para Hills now have -1 point?
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ball_girl wrote:
Rightside wrote:Points have been deducted, table updated
So it has.
Why does Para Hills now have -1 point?
And Uni have a point deducted aswell

I believe that may be for not having one of the required Mini Roos sides. Happy to be corrected if wrong
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Just a 3 point penalty for misleading promises that you made the WNPL criteria? Talk about a slap on the wrist.

State League clubs take note for future. Honesty doesn't count.
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