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God is an Englishman wrote:Actually very surprised by that especially as a keeper. I find the twisting and turning part where Astro boots perform better. So as a keeper, the pushing off for a save I'd have thought would be harder.

I assume you would wear other different equipment as a keeper on Astro, long sleeve shirt and trousers rather than shorts?
No, the 'grass' length is pretty long at the Parks so isn't too bad under foot, if you land correctly when diving you slide so no I didn't wear long sleaves (Im coaching now), maybe 3/4 pants but I went in goals for a shooting session a couple of weeks ago and did that in just normal shorts & shirt.
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paul merson wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Actually very surprised by that especially as a keeper. I find the twisting and turning part where Astro boots perform better. So as a keeper, the pushing off for a save I'd have thought would be harder.

I assume you would wear other different equipment as a keeper on Astro, long sleeve shirt and trousers rather than shorts?
No, the 'grass' length is pretty long at the Parks so isn't too bad under foot, if you land correctly when diving you slide so no I didn't wear long sleaves (Im coaching now), maybe 3/4 pants but I went in goals for a shooting session a couple of weeks ago and did that in just normal shorts & shirt.
What about the "carpet burns", do you not wear anything to protect yourself from them?
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God is an Englishman wrote:
paul merson wrote:
God is an Englishman wrote:Actually very surprised by that especially as a keeper. I find the twisting and turning part where Astro boots perform better. So as a keeper, the pushing off for a save I'd have thought would be harder.

I assume you would wear other different equipment as a keeper on Astro, long sleeve shirt and trousers rather than shorts?
No, the 'grass' length is pretty long at the Parks so isn't too bad under foot, if you land correctly when diving you slide so no I didn't wear long sleaves (Im coaching now), maybe 3/4 pants but I went in goals for a shooting session a couple of weeks ago and did that in just normal shorts & shirt.
What about the "carpet burns", do you not wear anything to protect yourself from them?
I think you are thinking of the old style carpet 'astro turf', get down to the Parks and check it out if you get a chance, its longer 'grass' so you do actually slide on it, you can get burns on it but you can get them from grass doing the same thing.
Im still not sure why we don't wet them here though, our NPL final in Sydney a couple of seasons ago was played on a synthetic pitch laid by the same company that did West Beach, we were told the pitch was the same as WB but they had massive sprinkler heads in each corner and they drowned the pitch before we played, but here we play on them bone dry?
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Do the new ones still bounce differently. I know when England played on one in Russia a few years back they all complained about the bounce.

Not seen the new one but you're right I've only played on an old one and I hated them.

I still believe the last minute change of grounds favoured Adelaide.
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Of course you do. Idiot
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united92 wrote:Of course you do. Idiot
You're not really offering much to change my opinion.

Maybe if you had something other than just insulting people via your keyboard you would be able to debate an issue.
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Fact 1: a double header was advertised, a double header didn't occur.

Fact 2: the late change of surface gave Adelaide an advantage as Perth would not have trained for a plastic pitch. The only way this may not be the case is if Perth women also use a plastic pitch for training.

I can't see how either of those are deniable in the slightest. Even my ex wife wouldn't argue with those.
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God is an Englishman wrote:
united92 wrote:Of course you do. Idiot
You're not really offering much to change my opinion.

Maybe if you had something other than just insulting people via your keyboard you would be able to debate an issue.
The ball grips the ground a bit, so passes are slower and the bounce isn't too bad there's just no skid at all (Don't ask me how I know that), hence I don't understand why they don't wet them.

The old pitches are nothing like the new ones.

I don't think the advantage of changing the pitch to a synthetic one last minute would have helped that much as Im sure AU would have spent all week preparing to play on Hindmarsh anyway, and yes when you go to play on the biggest pitch in SA you do need to prepare for it when you yourself are not used to playing on it.
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God is an Englishman wrote:Fact 1: a double header was advertised, a double header didn't occur.

Fact 2: the late change of surface gave Adelaide an advantage as Perth would not have trained for a plastic pitch. The only way this may not be the case is if Perth women also use a plastic pitch for training.

I can't see how either of those are deniable in the slightest. Even my ex wife wouldn't argue with those.
I think you're putting a bit too much emphasis on the pitch, its not like they were playing at Luton in the 80's
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As you said earlier the ball doesn't flow through the same. If a team hasn't played on one before it will take some adjustments.

So AU would have been able to adjust quicker - therefore gaining an advantage
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Playing on that pitch (the shores) will always be an advantage to the Lady Reds. I doubt many (if any) teams play/train on a synthetic pitch.

As my coach has always told me - Always be prepared for anything.
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God is an Englishman wrote:As you said earlier the ball doesn't flow through the same. If a team hasn't played on one before it will take some adjustments.

So AU would have been able to adjust quicker - therefore gaining an advantage
Ever played on a pitch with long grass, or like Hindmarsh that used to be like a billiard table the grass was that short, back in the NSL days clubs in the eastern states that shared rugby grounds quite often would have ridiculously long grass.

At the end of the day its just something that Jose would complain about after another Chelsea loss, everybody else just deals with it.

From what I have heard, the wind down had more impact on the game than the pitch.
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CR_7 wrote:Playing on that pitch (the shores) will always be an advantage to the Lady Reds. I doubt many (if any) teams play/train on a synthetic pitch.

As my coach has always told me - Always be prepared for anything.
You'll be surprised how many synthetic pitches there are around the country these days eastern states have heaps.
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The wind was a major influence, ball swirled all over the place.

Pitch definitely favoured Adelaide, they train on it every day. The Perth players were getting quite sore in the calves and Adelaide ran all over them in the last 15 mins of the match.
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[/quote]I think you are thinking of the old style carpet 'astro turf', get down to the Parks and check it out if you get a chance, its longer 'grass' so you do actually slide on it, you can get burns on it but you can get them from grass doing the same thing.
Im still not sure why we don't wet them here though, our NPL final in Sydney a couple of seasons ago was played on a synthetic pitch laid by the same company that did West Beach, we were told the pitch was the same as WB but they had massive sprinkler heads in each corner and they drowned the pitch before we played, but here we play on them bone dry?[/quote]
I know for a fact that they have the massive sprinklers in the corners of the pitch at West Beach and they did put them on before the game on Sunday. The only problem was that the wind was so strong they just sprayed back onto to grandstand. We had to organise ball girls for the game and we got drenched
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Galey wrote:
I think you are thinking of the old style carpet 'astro turf', get down to the Parks and check it out if you get a chance, its longer 'grass' so you do actually slide on it, you can get burns on it but you can get them from grass doing the same thing.
Im still not sure why we don't wet them here though, our NPL final in Sydney a couple of seasons ago was played on a synthetic pitch laid by the same company that did West Beach, we were told the pitch was the same as WB but they had massive sprinkler heads in each corner and they drowned the pitch before we played, but here we play on them bone dry?[/quote]
I know for a fact that they have the massive sprinklers in the corners of the pitch at West Beach and they did put them on before the game on Sunday. The only problem was that the wind was so strong they just sprayed back onto to grandstand. We had to organise ball girls for the game and we got drenched[/quote]
You could say it was blowing a 'Gale' then
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