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FFSA U14/15

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Would like to know why 5 girls are listed in the U14/15 age group when they play for NTC and CLEARLY OVER AGE they would be year 11 and 12 approaching the age of 17 this year, clearly over the age of 15. Why do FFSA clearly have to cheat using older girls just to get results, what happened to developing girls in there proper age groups, these NTC girls they chose to play in the boys league now they r playing 2 games a week, these girls will get burned out. FFSA I'm sorry but this is below the belt, most of these girls will end up injured come the end of the season. :? :? :?
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Think it is a numbers game, as they have a reserves team also. we have no problems with older girls playing in the U14/U15 team it is about development and the older girls can assist the younger girls,
I think they should also have interchange to assist there development further and give more players the opportunity to play and be more involved in the game. You don't develop by sitting on the side lines. You learn and develop by playing.
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lol U normally develop from playing up, not down 2 years, a shortage of players- theres great talent coming through from younger players ffsa need to get off there backside and start looking, unless these r the weakest NTC girls and have to play in a lower age group for development- but then if there not good enough they shouldn't be playing NTC, theres lots of good talent out there, maybe they should change the age group this year to u14/u18 as that's the true age group this year :lol: :lol:
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Yes. It is down to numbers. A lot of girls (10-15 I believe) carrying injuries across all three teams. In order to field reserves team some had to be dropped down. NTC girls there to make up numbers, that's all. No grand plot to win the Prems, I'm afraid.
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That many injuries this early on, very strange ?????, I could understand end of the season its all about results for ffsa some things never change, NTC playing players then twice a week Um HELLO!!!!!!!!! there will be a lot more injuries as players get burned out, coaches should be protecting there players but that's ffsa all over, they don't care about players just results and the money :lol: :lol:
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gunners , who cares how old the girls are they could be 30 for all we care, but it is best they use girls from the ntc squads to assist numbers rather than take more players from other prem clubs, and i will repeat, you develop by playing no matter if it is up, down or inbetween makes no difference. :lol: :lol: :lol:
We know of some girls who withdrew from u14/u15/ntc squads in previous yrs because they were not getting much game time. so they went to other prem clubs to get more playing time but similar problem there also, but if had interchange then they would more than likely get more game time and this would assist their development, also with interchange more than likely reduce injuries also as their actual playing time could be better controlled to prevent burn out.
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Barbarian, your ability to turn any thread into one about interchange is remarkable. Although I disagree. It would amount to the dumbing down of the Premier League. I see instituting interchange as giving into all those older, more mature players who can't be bothered to get fit for substitution. Interchange would degrade the quality of a competition that is already struggling to maintain credibility. I think we all are interested in a vibrant, quality premier league. Interchange is not the way to achieve that.

In terms of player development, the junior and social divisions have interchange for that reason. To give everyone a go and give them repeated chances to execute tactics and build skills.

And Gunners, as for FFSA coaches not looking after their players, that's rubbish. GH and JR go out of their way to rest players when they need it, often at the expense of results. So that bit just isn't true. And money? In the women's game? Where?
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The money comes from players and parents - we give they take- would love to know where all the money goes :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Pretty sure it goes on refs, clothing, rent for the fields they use. Like any club..these things need to payed for some how..
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Please, someone tell me the name of any coach who has NEVER raised their voice at their team or displaced an object in pure frustration as a reaction to a particular situation in a game.

Every coach I have had the privilege to be coached by has at some stage been guilty of the above "offenses". I am not saying it was a regular occurrence or the right thing to do, but there comes a point in a players development and learning of the game that they will see their coaches show a bit of emotion. And I don't believe this is at all a sign that player development is not the main priority.

Wait until some of these players play in the W-league, College system, for overseas clubs or National Teams, what ever it may be, they will need to be prepared for the occasion when their coaches will be direct, loud and emotional. And it's not a personal thing or to hinder player development, most often than not it is because the coach knows the individual can perform better.

Good luck to all teams this season.

PS: I love how 'sportsbird' erased their last post which my post was in reply to. Must be a 'sportschicken'. :lol:
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junior supporter, if you haven't noticed the standard of the premier league is already below par, I stand to be corrected but I would say it was better 3/4 yrs ago, IMO the so called elite level is now the U14/!5 Ntc squads and the Older NTC squads and the womens national league. Not the Womens Premier league.
To maintain the higher standard of the womens premier league the league needs the older more experienced girls being involved in the premier league and assisting the younger players.
Everything possible should be done to try to keep these players involved to keep the standard of the competition at a reasonable level and not see them drop out and retire at the ages of 22/23/24 when they are in their prime??
By mid season we would expect that the womens premier league teams, with the older more experienced players will probably be the top 3/4 teams, but not necesarrily the fitest teams.
I argue for the introduction of an interchange rule because I think it is an important issue and an OHAS issue particularly in todays sporting environment.

How many girls who play in the Womens premier league other than for the ntc squads, u14/15 team or w league team would ever be good enough to play at a national level probably not even 1 % of them. How many girls in the womens prem teams played in the AU team last year?? I can only think of one, maybe 2 who were not in the NTC squad. Then look back to the first or second year of the W league Adelaide team and how many of them girls are still playing premier league?

Question, Why is it that every other contact team sport in the world has an interchange rule??

There are very important physiological reasons why every other contact team sport in the world has an interchange rule there must be many reasons why this happens otherwise these sports would not have this rule. Also it has been shown in many studies conducted that women are 4 to 5 times more suseptible to certain injuries than men. There are many arguments to support the use of an interchange rule, but other than "tradition" what are the benefits to the game for not having interchange??
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