Adelaide uni Friday night games

[God is an Englishman]

Do you think that anyone on here would take your opinion as reliable information and act on it?

I wouldn't think so, do you? If not, why did you ask for my opnion.

I think it was pretty obvious that it was an example of an organisation sending out information that they weren't entitled to.

I don't see the relevance here, are you suggesting that the South Australia Amateur Referee's Association have no control over referees in the South Australia Amateur Soccer league?

[flashBLACK]

While most clubs have embraced the required situation, there seems to be unnecessary anxiety from individuals about this topic, so it only seems fair to satisfy the curiosity of those people and provide as many details as possible regarding the resolution to play Friday night games.

With the Adelaide Oval hosting AFL from 2014, there was always going to be an effect on the use of the University Ovals of some description. This was communicated to all at the 2013 SAASL annual general meeting.

Since then, the AUSC has liaised in length with the Adelaide University Sports Association, Adelaide City Council, SAASL, FFSA and CSL regarding the restrictions that this will cause during the 2014 (and possibly subsequent) seasons.

In short, all on street parking in North Adelaide will be changed to 2 hours zones on AFL days. The Adelaide City Council has advised that fines contravening the 2 hour limit will be at least $90.

Under the directive from the grounds’ leaseholders, a common sense approach meant soccer fixtures that clashed with the use of Adelaide Oval for AFL matches would be moved to a Friday night.

The grounds now have upgraded lighting that will enhance the night match experience. (The clubrooms due for completion in July will also house new changerooms, showers etc.)

Women and Junior football is generally not affected because kick-off times are dictated by the club; most matches are shorter in length; and the FFSA have taken into consideration when AFL matches are on and scheduled home/away fixtures accordingly.

The Men, however, are where the most disruptions lie. Because:
• All of the University teams must play in Saturday-based leagues because of pitch availability
• Saturday kick-off times are set by the respective leagues, not the clubs
• Each University pitch is shared with more than one team. i.e. – the SAASL Premier Men share the same pitch with Grads Red and alternate home/away
• With at least an A and B team playing subsequently on a Saturday, the time spent at the grounds for some participants is likely to significantly longer than parking restrictions will allow

The SAASL draft fixtures are completed first and provided to the Collegiate League who then schedule home matches for CSL-based AUSC teams based on when the pitches are not being used by the other teams.
Collegiate League teams too are in the same predicament and will be required to play Friday night matches when Saturday games clash with AFL fixtures. There may be some instances where all four pitches are running two matches on a Friday night.

Based on this. It’s not as simple as switching the home and away SAASL fixtures to accommodate Adelaide Oval use. It is also not practical for Adelaide Uni to give up multiple home games either. Other Adelaide Uni campus pitches or ovals are currently used by other clubs and/or would require significant financial resources to maintain for what would be only a handful of matches throughout the season.

The draft fixtures circulated in February contained details of the rounds in which AUSC required home games on a Friday night instead of a Saturday. This was shown in the drafts of the Premier, Division 3 and Division 4 competitions.
Clubs have also been updated of the situation at 2013 pre-season league meetings.

For Friday night matches, B’s will kick off at 6.30pm and As at 8.15pm. All C grade matches will go ahead as per normal at 11.30am on the Saturday morning as a one-off match would be completed within the two-hour parking restriction threshold.

If Uni went ahead with a full schedule of just Saturday games, everyone would start complaining about the parking fines they receive (let alone the ability to find a park). And, at $90 a pop, it becomes an expensive day out when half your team is issued with parking infringement notices.

Why not embrace the chance to play Friday night football? You get to play under (new) lights; have the weekend free to spend with your family; or perhaps get a chance to support the other teams within your club that you normally can’t watch.

Hopefully everyone can see the logic behind this and accept that it is not the best situation to be in, but one that Adelaide Uni have embraced and managed to the best of their ability.

All the best for the 2014 season.

[Black_Panther]

I wouldn't think so, do you? If not, why did you ask for my opnion.

I think it was pretty obvious that it was an example of an organisation sending out information that they weren't entitled to.

I don't see the relevance here, are you suggesting that the South Australia Amateur Referee's Association have no control over referees in the South Australia Amateur Soccer league?

Why are you asking such a redundant question?

You know that I am talking about the administration of the competition.

[God is an Englishman]

Why are you asking such a redundant question?

You know that I am talking about the administration of the competition.

The document was sent out by the SAASRA, the governing body for the referees for our league.

You seem to be claiming that SAASRA have no jurisdiction to send out things on behalf of their members.

Remember, no SAASRA = no referees = no games

[bench-warmer]

The document was sent out by the SAASRA, the governing body for the referees for our league.

You seem to be claiming that SAASRA have no jurisdiction to send out things on behalf of their members.

Remember, no SAASRA = no referees = no games

Hang on a second.
SAASL = Government = Make competition laws
SAASRA = Police = Enforce competition laws

Agree without Refs, we're f'd though.

The whole black tops thing is like, sooooo last year, don't you think?

Get over it.

[God is an Englishman]

The document was sent out by the SAASRA, the governing body for the referees for our league.

You seem to be claiming that SAASRA have no jurisdiction to send out things on behalf of their members.

Remember, no SAASRA = no referees = no games

Hang on a second.
SAASL = Government = Make competition laws
SAASRA = Police = Enforce competition laws

Agree without Refs, we're f'd though.

The whole black tops thing is like, sooooo last year, don't you think?

Get over it.

Given the example above though, the police don't set the fees and have no way of even knowing what fee has been paid.

A better example would be the police saying they will fine anyone not displaying a rego sticker.

Yes, you could take it to court and get off but it still wouldn't stop you getting pulled over and issued a ticket.

[bench-warmer]

The document was sent out by the SAASRA, the governing body for the referees for our league.

You seem to be claiming that SAASRA have no jurisdiction to send out things on behalf of their members.

Remember, no SAASRA = no referees = no games

Hang on a second.
SAASL = Government = Make competition laws
SAASRA = Police = Enforce competition laws

Agree without Refs, we're f'd though.

The whole black tops thing is like, sooooo last year, don't you think?

Get over it.

Given the example above though, the police don't set the fees and have no way of even knowing what fee has been paid.

A better example would be the police saying they will fine anyone not displaying a rego sticker.

Yes, you could take it to court and get off but it still wouldn't stop you getting pulled over and issued a ticket.

And the court would tell the police to stop violating their mandate? Politely

[brushmancity]

Black shirts for night games...might be like playing a team of invisible men ?

If somebody passes away in the club how would the other team know? Bit stupid wearing Black Armbands!
Parking at Adelaide Uni is atrocious my daughter played there last year on a Sunday so I can imagine what the parking is like on a Saturday especially more so if those twats are playing at Adelaide oval. Friday night games might be an innovation.I know it's not for everyone but some clubs have great lights (unless a circuit breaker blows).
But children please stop it NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[Black_Panther]

The document was sent out by the SAASRA, the governing body for the referees for our league.

You seem to be claiming that SAASRA have no jurisdiction to send out things on behalf of their members.

Remember, no SAASRA = no referees = no games

Hang on a second.
SAASL = Government = Make competition laws
SAASRA = Police = Enforce competition laws

Agree without Refs, we're f'd though.

The whole black tops thing is like, sooooo last year, don't you think?

Get over it.

Given the example above though, the police don't set the fees and have no way of even knowing what fee has been paid.

A better example would be the police saying they will fine anyone not displaying a rego sticker.

Yes, you could take it to court and get off but it still wouldn't stop you getting pulled over and issued a ticket.

Talk about deflecting the question..............

[Stapervich]

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/132414 ... fullscreen

Section 10 of the Referees manual quite clearly state that when not black not possible then perfectly acceptable to wear alternate lime strip.

[God is an Englishman]

Talk about deflecting the question..............

Who brought up the police and rego issue again? OWN GOAL

Now which question do you think I'm deflecting from?

[God is an Englishman]

And the court would tell the police to stop violating their mandate? Politely

Do you think that would stop them, if the people at the top are instructing them to do it and also stating they wouldn't get promotions if they don't follow their instructions.

[God is an Englishman]

While most clubs have embraced the required situation, there seems to be unnecessary anxiety from individuals about this topic, so it only seems fair to satisfy the curiosity of those people and provide as many details as possible regarding the resolution to play Friday night games.

With the Adelaide Oval hosting AFL from 2014, there was always going to be an effect on the use of the University Ovals of some description. This was communicated to all at the 2013 SAASL annual general meeting.

Since then, the AUSC has liaised in length with the Adelaide University Sports Association, Adelaide City Council, SAASL, FFSA and CSL regarding the restrictions that this will cause during the 2014 (and possibly subsequent) seasons.

In short, all on street parking in North Adelaide will be changed to 2 hours zones on AFL days. The Adelaide City Council has advised that fines contravening the 2 hour limit will be at least $90.

Under the directive from the grounds’ leaseholders, a common sense approach meant soccer fixtures that clashed with the use of Adelaide Oval for AFL matches would be moved to a Friday night.

The grounds now have upgraded lighting that will enhance the night match experience. (The clubrooms due for completion in July will also house new changerooms, showers etc.)

Women and Junior football is generally not affected because kick-off times are dictated by the club; most matches are shorter in length; and the FFSA have taken into consideration when AFL matches are on and scheduled home/away fixtures accordingly.

The Men, however, are where the most disruptions lie. Because:
• All of the University teams must play in Saturday-based leagues because of pitch availability
• Saturday kick-off times are set by the respective leagues, not the clubs
• Each University pitch is shared with more than one team. i.e. – the SAASL Premier Men share the same pitch with Grads Red and alternate home/away
• With at least an A and B team playing subsequently on a Saturday, the time spent at the grounds for some participants is likely to significantly longer than parking restrictions will allow

The SAASL draft fixtures are completed first and provided to the Collegiate League who then schedule home matches for CSL-based AUSC teams based on when the pitches are not being used by the other teams.
Collegiate League teams too are in the same predicament and will be required to play Friday night matches when Saturday games clash with AFL fixtures. There may be some instances where all four pitches are running two matches on a Friday night.

Based on this. It’s not as simple as switching the home and away SAASL fixtures to accommodate Adelaide Oval use. It is also not practical for Adelaide Uni to give up multiple home games either. Other Adelaide Uni campus pitches or ovals are currently used by other clubs and/or would require significant financial resources to maintain for what would be only a handful of matches throughout the season.

The draft fixtures circulated in February contained details of the rounds in which AUSC required home games on a Friday night instead of a Saturday. This was shown in the drafts of the Premier, Division 3 and Division 4 competitions.
Clubs have also been updated of the situation at 2013 pre-season league meetings.

For Friday night matches, B’s will kick off at 6.30pm and As at 8.15pm. All C grade matches will go ahead as per normal at 11.30am on the Saturday morning as a one-off match would be completed within the two-hour parking restriction threshold.

If Uni went ahead with a full schedule of just Saturday games, everyone would start complaining about the parking fines they receive (let alone the ability to find a park). And, at $90 a pop, it becomes an expensive day out when half your team is issued with parking infringement notices.

Why not embrace the chance to play Friday night football? You get to play under (new) lights; have the weekend free to spend with your family; or perhaps get a chance to support the other teams within your club that you normally can’t watch.

Hopefully everyone can see the logic behind this and accept that it is not the best situation to be in, but one that Adelaide Uni have embraced and managed to the best of their ability.

All the best for the 2014 season.

If it happened as you have stated then that would be fine, the draft fixtures I have seen however made no mention of Friday night games.

Seeing as you appear to be speaking on behalf of your club, what will be the clubs reaction if a club states that they are unable to play on a Friday night?

Also C's grade fixtures. 40 minutes each way (is it only 40 for C Grade), 10 mins for half time. Including time to get changed before and afterwards. Hope there's no injury time.

[Black_Panther]

And the court would tell the police to stop violating their mandate? Politely

Do you think that would stop them, if the people at the top are instructing them to do it and also stating they wouldn't get promotions if they don't follow their instructions.

Are you now saying that the people that run the refs association don't know what they are doing and aren't acting appropriately???

[God is an Englishman]

And the court would tell the police to stop violating their mandate? Politely

Do you think that would stop them, if the people at the top are instructing them to do it and also stating they wouldn't get promotions if they don't follow their instructions.

Are you now saying that the people that run the refs association don't know what they are doing and aren't acting appropriately???

Not at all, I have no idea where you would possibly get that from.

[Vale_boy05]

The Adelaide City Council has advised that fines contravening the 2 hour limit will be at least $90.

They have given you the run around on that, the expiation will be no more then $45.

[Paleon Patros Germanos]

I like the idea of Friday night football.

[spooky1972]

Well that didn't take long to cause issues, round one fixture guide;

Round 1 - SAT DIV 3 A Date: 4/04/2014
ADEL UNI 2 REDBLUE EAGLES ADELAIDE UNI GROUND

Round 1 - SAT DIV 3 B Date: 5/04/2014
ADEL UNI 2 REDBLUE EAGLES ADELAIDE UNI GROUND

However Adelaide Uni contact says ressies are Friday night, I hope he is mistaken.

[flashBLACK]

Only the A fixtures on SAASL site are changed (see Premier, Div 3 and Div 4 for Uni games)

Always assume Reserve teams will follow the A team and play on the same day.

i.e - As play Friday night 8.15, then Bs will play Friday night 6.30.

[Steve#4]

Stupid if b' s dont follow A's......What a ridiculous scenario.

[Azzurri80]

This thread is awesome!

The title should be renamed 'When Adelaide Uni met GIAE'.

I don't know what's funnier. The fact this thread has gone on for 5 pages, or the fact the Adel Uni faithful continue to argue with a man who has that signature? Come on fellas, you don't need a uni degree to work out this conversation wasn't going to go anywhere. And you're all meant to be the smart ones here?! God help us!

Good to see you loss nothing in the off-season GIAE.

Sharp as ever.

Have fun with him this season Uni. I sure did last season.

And GIAE, reduce the size of that signature you pompous twat!

And just for the record, I think all Uni vs. Jets games should be played Friday nights. Just makes things easier.

[Azzurri80]

Irregardless, isn't the league the ones that set the fixtures?

If I'm right surely they are the ones he should be voicing his distressed concerns to?

And nice word Black Panther! That's what 5 years at uni can do for you folks!

I like it.


And it gets you 14 points in Scrabble! Nice!!

What was this thread about again? Oh, that's right, who gives a flying f-uck?!!

[spooky1972]

Only the A fixtures on SAASL site are changed (see Premier, Div 3 and Div 4 for Uni games)

Always assume Reserve teams will follow the A team and play on the same day.

i.e - As play Friday night 8.15, then Bs will play Friday night 6.30.

just came as a shock, as fixture guide says Saturday.

630pm is ok for you Uni kids but us working class who do 9-5, 630 kick offs cut it real short to get to a game and get ready in possibly peak hour traffic.

[God is an Englishman]

Only the A fixtures on SAASL site are changed (see Premier, Div 3 and Div 4 for Uni games)

Always assume Reserve teams will follow the A team and play on the same day.

i.e - As play Friday night 8.15, then Bs will play Friday night 6.30.

Maybe you should take that up with the league, don't they set the fixtures?

[Kim Kallstrom]

Only the A fixtures on SAASL site are changed (see Premier, Div 3 and Div 4 for Uni games)

Always assume Reserve teams will follow the A team and play on the same day.

i.e - As play Friday night 8.15, then Bs will play Friday night 6.30.

just came as a shock, as fixture guide says Saturday.

630pm is ok for you Uni kids but us working class who do 9-5, 630 kick offs cut it real short to get to a game and get ready in possibly peak hour traffic.

Did it occur to you that not all players for Uni are students and have 9-5 jobs too?

[God is an Englishman]

Did it occur to you that not all players for Uni are students and have 9-5 jobs too?

No - they're all soap and tax dodging students, every single one of them.

[Black_Panther]

Did it occur to you that not all players for Uni are students and have 9-5 jobs too?

No - they're all soap and tax dodging students, every single one of them.[/quote]

How is that different from you?, other than the student part of course.

[God is an Englishman]

How is that different from you?, other than the student part of course.

I'll have you know I am a very clean person. I have a shower once a month, whether I need it or not.

[spooky1972]

Only the A fixtures on SAASL site are changed (see Premier, Div 3 and Div 4 for Uni games)

Always assume Reserve teams will follow the A team and play on the same day.

i.e - As play Friday night 8.15, then Bs will play Friday night 6.30.

just came as a shock, as fixture guide says Saturday.

630pm is ok for you Uni kids but us working class who do 9-5, 630 kick offs cut it real short to get to a game and get ready in possibly peak hour traffic.

Did it occur to you that not all players for Uni are students and have 9-5 jobs too?

just teasing, we'll see you then

[The Budapestian]

I know if our club can't get our players to gather on our Friday away fixture to uni, then we will propose a Saturday match. On another ground that they organise.