Where did they all go.......?

[Old Redback]

The usually outspoken Liverpool and Man U fans all seem to have disappeared........

[Derek]

I know, its nice.

[Litmanen]

[Bomber]

...whereas you get only the odd peep from Leeds faithful. Oh the irony!

[Derek]

Lest have our own discussion, without them...........

We all know that United fans / board are not expecting Moyes to be at the same level as Fergie to begin with, however he is a big boy and has taken over the English champions, so no real excuses.

What do you think it would take for him to get sacked?

Not making Champions league? Not winning a trophy? Perhaps being outside the top four come xmas?

I would be interested to know how lenient the board intend to be with him and how patient they are prepared to be if these situations arise........

In saying all of this, United could go on and take out 2 or 3 trophies, but cant see it.

[The Kop]

The usually outspoken Liverpool and Man U fans all seem to have disappeared........

Replaced in due course by outspoken Arsenal and Tottenham fans!

[Kim Kallstrom]

The usually outspoken Liverpool and Man U fans all seem to have disappeared........

Replaced in due course by outspoken Arsenal and Tottenham fans!

not outspoken just yet.. sitting 1st and 2nd respectively

[Del Boca Vista]

i would've thought now that man u have a shit manager they would focus even more on us.

[God is an Englishman]

they probably all just moved onto their next club.

[carntyne square]

they probably all just moved onto their next club.

Ahhhh the age old self appointed consolations for a fan of a rubbish team. A cozy, delusional blanket to keep ya warm through all those unsuccessful seasons. "atleast we're true fans" is it?

[Raich Carter]

they probably all just moved onto their next club.

Ahhhh the age old self appointed consolations for a fan of a rubbish team. A cozy, delusional blanket to keep ya warm through all those unsuccessful seasons. "atleast we're true fans" is it?

No not really, because he is a supporter of a club that actually means something to him not just "lets look whose top and support them mentality" fan. If he was a fan he would just move on and become a fan of another team. Just like me I will follow Sunderland even if they are going through a crisis at the moment and even if they've been a bit of a yo-yo team over the years because that's were I was born and that's the team I have supported all my life. You just don't get it.

[God is an Englishman]

that's were I was born and that's the team I have supported all my life. You just don't get it.

They'll never get it and you actually have to feel sorry for them for that. They'll never feel that emotional tie.

[El Capitano]

....

Enjoy the Championship

...

Enjoy League 1

[Litmanen]

they probably all just moved onto their next club.

This does fall in line with how well Napoli are doing.

[Raich Carter]

....

Enjoy the Championship

...

Enjoy League 1

You still don't get it.........

[God is an Englishman]

....

Enjoy the Championship

...

Enjoy League 1

You still don't get it.........

It was almost like he wanted to prove our point.

Millwall won their last game, how did man u get one?

[Derek]

The majority of people on here never will get it. Ive grown tired of trying to explain it to the plastic supporters.

[carntyne square]

they probably all just moved onto their next club.

Ahhhh the age old self appointed consolations for a fan of a rubbish team. A cozy, delusional blanket to keep ya warm through all those unsuccessful seasons. "atleast we're true fans" is it?

No not really, because he is a supporter of a club that actually means something to him not just "lets look whose top and support them mentality" fan. If he was a fan he would just move on and become a fan of another team. Just like me I will follow Sunderland even if they are going through a crisis at the moment and even if they've been a bit of a yo-yo team over the years because that's were I was born and that's the team I have supported all my life. You just don't get it.

Very inspirational words and I'm almost positive through no intention of your own, you just proved my point. You guys truly feel that you are better "supporters' of your respective clubs because they have been mediocre at best. Ofcourse you do. Like earlier stated It's a consolation a lot of supporters self impose to get them through the tough times. It doesn't make you less of a supporter if ya team is consistently successful.just a happier one. The spiritual and mental connection is still there. I guess you guys don't want to accept that as it would take away that consolation you all like to use to get ya through the mediocrity and failures. we get it. Trust me we get it.

[Outlaw 2.0]

Very inspirational words and I'm almost positive through no intention of your own, you just proved my point. You guys truly feel that you are better "supporters' of your respective clubs because they have been mediocre at best. Ofcourse you do. Like earlier stated It's a consolation a lot of supporters self impose to get them through the tough times. It doesn't make you less of a supporter if ya team is consistently successful.just a happier one. The spiritual and mental connection is still there. I guess you guys don't want to accept that as it would take away that consolation you all like to use to get ya through the mediocrity and failures. we get it. Trust me we get it.

I don't think that is the attitude being shown here, it's more of an emotional connection with a team that you can not and do not choose. It is very easy for someone to come along (even as a kid who is born or has parents that follow a certain team) and say "nah I prefer to support these guys instead". That lack of emotional attachment is the same one that can be shown down the years when they decide....... "Had enough of them, I like this lot now" or "yeah, I like these guys too".

What these two are saying is that it's not the trophies or success or even the banter with other faithfuls of their respective teams that spurs them to turn the tele on and watch their side get beat. It's the fact that at the end of the day they can truly say that "their" teams have a special connection that cannot be shared by everyone, a connection that you can't buy from a club store or create by going to a game.

Something that some people......... Just don't get.

[Derek]

they probably all just moved onto their next club.

Ahhhh the age old self appointed consolations for a fan of a rubbish team. A cozy, delusional blanket to keep ya warm through all those unsuccessful seasons. "atleast we're true fans" is it?

No not really, because he is a supporter of a club that actually means something to him not just "lets look whose top and support them mentality" fan. If he was a fan he would just move on and become a fan of another team. Just like me I will follow Sunderland even if they are going through a crisis at the moment and even if they've been a bit of a yo-yo team over the years because that's were I was born and that's the team I have supported all my life. You just don't get it.

Very inspirational words and I'm almost positive through no intention of your own, you just proved my point. You guys truly feel that you are better "supporters' of your respective clubs because they have been mediocre at best. Ofcourse you do. Like earlier stated It's a consolation a lot of supporters self impose to get them through the tough times. It doesn't make you less of a supporter if ya team is consistently successful.just a happier one. The spiritual and mental connection is still there. I guess you guys don't want to accept that as it would take away that consolation you all like to use to get ya through the mediocrity and failures. we get it. Trust me we get it.

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You clearly still dont get it. Its not about whether their team is League one or in the Prem. They have a true connection to that club.

Im going to have to go down this path once again..........You will never ever understand the real connection between really supporting a team and just randomly picking a team and following them throughout life. Myself and others on here, grew up or are from where our teams are based, going to games was a natural part of our life.

The fact that most on here have never even been to the country of their so called team is laughable. I have an Australian friend who supports Liverpool and has done all his life, his close family are from there and he makes the effort when he can, to visit England just to go watch his team. May not happen very often, but he still makes the effort.

Everyone else is just a follower.

[carntyne square]

Very inspirational words and I'm almost positive through no intention of your own, you just proved my point. You guys truly feel that you are better "supporters' of your respective clubs because they have been mediocre at best. Ofcourse you do. Like earlier stated It's a consolation a lot of supporters self impose to get them through the tough times. It doesn't make you less of a supporter if ya team is consistently successful.just a happier one. The spiritual and mental connection is still there. I guess you guys don't want to accept that as it would take away that consolation you all like to use to get ya through the mediocrity and failures. we get it. Trust me we get it.

I don't think that is the attitude being shown here, it's more of an emotional connection with a team that you can not and do not choose. It is very easy for someone to come along (even as a kid who is born or has parents that follow a certain team) and say "nah I prefer to support these guys instead". That lack of emotional attachment is the same one that can be shown down the years when they decide....... "Had enough of them, I like this lot now" or "yeah, I like these guys too".

What these two are saying is that it's not the trophies or success or even the banter with other faithfuls of their respective teams that spurs them to turn the tele on and watch their side get beat. It's the fact that at the end of the day they can truly say that "their" teams have a special connection that cannot be shared by everyone, a connection that you can't buy from a club store or create by going to a game.

Something that some people......... Just don't get.

Agreed.my point is that belittling or questioning ones connection to a team just because they have experienced more success than your own is a desperate straw to clutch to. Why can't Liverpool or man u supporters have the same connection you just explained? It's like telling a bloke he's never truly experienced love because his Mrs is better looking than your own. A very flawed argument I feel.

[carntyne square]

Im going to have to go down this path once again..........You will never ever understand the real connection between really supporting a team and just randomly picking a team and following them throughout life. Myself and others on here, grew up or are from where our teams are based, going to games was a natural part of our life.

The fact that most on here have never even been to the country of their so called team is laughable. I have an Australian friend who supports Liverpool and has done all his life, his close family are from there and he makes the effort when he can, to visit England just to go watch his team. May not happen very often, but he still makes the effort.

Everyone else is just a follower.[/quote]

Just a lot of assumptions being made here. I'd like to think I have a small grasp on the concept of the club picking me and not vice versa.

[El Capitano]

I don't get it? How dumb do you think people are?
How can we not get it? You try and shove it down our throats at every opportunity... Jog on, no one cares.

[Old Redback]

.....plus the United and Liverpool fans bite and tend to have a desperate need to want to prove that they are 'real' supporters and it is funny to watch!

[Derek]

"Jog on"

[Outlaw 2.0]

Agreed.my point is that belittling or questioning ones connection to a team just because they have experienced more success than your own is a desperate straw to clutch to. Why can't Liverpool or man u supporters have the same connection you just explained?

Some....... Can

Some....... Can't

It's like telling a bloke he's never truly experienced love because his Mrs is better looking than your own. A very flawed argument I feel.

Not quite, it shouldn't be relative to the amount of success or attractiveness of the female. More relative to the way she was chosen. It would be more like the emotional connections between a child and his/her birth parents in comparison with the connection between an adopted child and their foster parents. The two kids have love for their parents however the connection that the birth child feels cannot be found in the adopted situation. That being said adopted child can still have just as much of an emotional attachment to their foster parents as the birth child.




That is as in depth with analogies I want to go before someone gets hurt........

*I do hope that no one takes offence to the comments in this post, if so I do apologise*

[God is an Englishman]

It's more like choosing a wife that you've never met but she looked good in the catalogue.

[Derek]

It's more like choosing a wife that you've never met but she looked good in the catalogue.

[bapa]

It's more like choosing a wife that you've never met but she looked good in the catalogue.

so, that explains how u got married....

[carntyne square]

So going by your analysis outlaw could we put milwall in the same category as a red headed stepchild?