Game time during the year?

[LRO]

Ok just a question, not on a witch hunt or anything just after others thoughts. I have a relative (NOT MY SON) who plays under 15s, went through trials at start of year was accepted in the squad, paid his money got his gear etc and started playing. About 6 weeks ago the team was in reach of “Promotion”. Since then he has received pretty much no game time and in particular 2 of the last 3 weeks has kitted up done the warm up and then just sat on the bench and hasn’t got on at all. Is this standard procedure at many clubs? I get its not E&D BUT the coach has said NOTHING to him, has given him no feedback on what he needs to work on, if he has done anything wrong etc. To be honest I think its pathetic and shows lack of respect to any player this would/could happen too?

So my question is do coaches actually coach anymore or do they just give up not make subs and give no feedback at all.

What do they do in trials? Is it just for numbers and revenue? Why in 12-14 weeks could/would he have gone that backwards he isn’t even getting on at all?

Is it the coach? The Club or the way the FFSA system is set up, if they win the league or get top 2 or something they will go up a division next year so development gets thrown out the window.

Just really wanted to see if it has happened to others?

[Gabon]

I'd expect ALL coaches to give feedback in some shape or form (especailly after it being weeks and not the solitary week) so for me saying nothing isn't right as surely its about player development....even in the FFSA

Looks like it doesn't matter where the team finishes anyway as its where your senior team finishes according to :

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[matty2323]

Ok just a question, not on a witch hunt or anything just after others thoughts. I have a relative (NOT MY SON) who plays under 15s, went through trials at start of year was accepted in the squad, paid his money got his gear etc and started playing. About 6 weeks ago the team was in reach of “Promotion”. Since then he has received pretty much no game time and in particular 2 of the last 3 weeks has kitted up done the warm up and then just sat on the bench and hasn’t got on at all. Is this standard procedure at many clubs? I get its not E&D BUT the coach has said NOTHING to him, has given him no feedback on what he needs to work on, if he has done anything wrong etc. To be honest I think its pathetic and shows lack of respect to any player this would/could happen too?

So my question is do coaches actually coach anymore or do they just give up not make subs and give no feedback at all.

What do they do in trials? Is it just for numbers and revenue? Why in 12-14 weeks could/would he have gone that backwards he isn’t even getting on at all?

Is it the coach? The Club or the way the FFSA system is set up, if they win the league or get top 2 or something they will go up a division next year so development gets thrown out the window.

Just really wanted to see if it has happened to others?

The coach. This is the "win at all costs" mentality people want to eradicate out of the game. Regardless of position, you give equal playing time to all players, you put the development of the squad and its players first and allow the results to take care of themselves. If the kids put in the hard work, and are fortunate enough to be rewarded with promotion, then so be it. But at no stage should a kid not get game time cause "its an important game". Its poor coaching.

[The moyesiah]

Ok just a question, not on a witch hunt or anything just after others thoughts. I have a relative (NOT MY SON) who plays under 15s, went through trials at start of year was accepted in the squad, paid his money got his gear etc and started playing. About 6 weeks ago the team was in reach of “Promotion”. Since then he has received pretty much no game time and in particular 2 of the last 3 weeks has kitted up done the warm up and then just sat on the bench and hasn’t got on at all. Is this standard procedure at many clubs? I get its not E&D BUT the coach has said NOTHING to him, has given him no feedback on what he needs to work on, if he has done anything wrong etc. To be honest I think its pathetic and shows lack of respect to any player this would/could happen too?

So my question is do coaches actually coach anymore or do they just give up not make subs and give no feedback at all.

What do they do in trials? Is it just for numbers and revenue? Why in 12-14 weeks could/would he have gone that backwards he isn’t even getting on at all?

Is it the coach? The Club or the way the FFSA system is set up, if they win the league or get top 2 or something they will go up a division next year so development gets thrown out the window.

Just really wanted to see if it has happened to others?

The coach. This is the "win at all costs" mentality people want to eradicate out of the game. Regardless of position, you give equal playing time to all players, you put the development of the squad and its players first and allow the results to take care of themselves. If the kids put in the hard work, and are fortunate enough to be rewarded with promotion, then so be it. But at no stage should a kid not get game time cause "its an important game". Its poor coaching.

I have never seen a team play equal time to all players. What I see is 2-4 that rarely come off (unless the game is getting out of control) and you have the keeper. Then you have apx 6 players that rotate, usually these 6 players and the subs rotate between themselves from starting on, or off and the odd weeks they get full games.

[matty2323]

Ok just a question, not on a witch hunt or anything just after others thoughts. I have a relative (NOT MY SON) who plays under 15s, went through trials at start of year was accepted in the squad, paid his money got his gear etc and started playing. About 6 weeks ago the team was in reach of “Promotion”. Since then he has received pretty much no game time and in particular 2 of the last 3 weeks has kitted up done the warm up and then just sat on the bench and hasn’t got on at all. Is this standard procedure at many clubs? I get its not E&D BUT the coach has said NOTHING to him, has given him no feedback on what he needs to work on, if he has done anything wrong etc. To be honest I think its pathetic and shows lack of respect to any player this would/could happen too?

So my question is do coaches actually coach anymore or do they just give up not make subs and give no feedback at all.

What do they do in trials? Is it just for numbers and revenue? Why in 12-14 weeks could/would he have gone that backwards he isn’t even getting on at all?

Is it the coach? The Club or the way the FFSA system is set up, if they win the league or get top 2 or something they will go up a division next year so development gets thrown out the window.

Just really wanted to see if it has happened to others?

The coach. This is the "win at all costs" mentality people want to eradicate out of the game. Regardless of position, you give equal playing time to all players, you put the development of the squad and its players first and allow the results to take care of themselves. If the kids put in the hard work, and are fortunate enough to be rewarded with promotion, then so be it. But at no stage should a kid not get game time cause "its an important game". Its poor coaching.

I have never seen a team play equal time to all players. What I see is 2-4 that rarely come off (unless the game is getting out of control) and you have the keeper. Then you have apx 6 players that rotate from being the usual sub to playing a full game. Usually these 6 players and the subs rotate between themselves from starting on, or off and the odd weeks they get full games.

Really? Due to my squad being down to 13, we only have 2 CM's so they normally get full game time. However, we try to give them rests where possible by rotating 2-3 players that enjoy the position (you'll be surprised how many kids dont want to play CM). Outside of that, every player besides the GK comes off at some stage. 60min game = 50min game time, 10min off. (some kids get alittle more/alittle less depending on if they ask to come off outside of our natural 10min rotations.)

[2002]

Ok just a question, not on a witch hunt or anything just after others thoughts. I have a relative (NOT MY SON) who plays under 15s, went through trials at start of year was accepted in the squad, paid his money got his gear etc and started playing. About 6 weeks ago the team was in reach of “Promotion”. Since then he has received pretty much no game time and in particular 2 of the last 3 weeks has kitted up done the warm up and then just sat on the bench and hasn’t got on at all. Is this standard procedure at many clubs? I get its not E&D BUT the coach has said NOTHING to him, has given him no feedback on what he needs to work on, if he has done anything wrong etc. To be honest I think its pathetic and shows lack of respect to any player this would/could happen too?

So my question is do coaches actually coach anymore or do they just give up not make subs and give no feedback at all.

What do they do in trials? Is it just for numbers and revenue? Why in 12-14 weeks could/would he have gone that backwards he isn’t even getting on at all?

Is it the coach? The Club or the way the FFSA system is set up, if they win the league or get top 2 or something they will go up a division next year so development gets thrown out the window.

Just really wanted to see if it has happened to others?

Is this Div B Gepps Cross, Terrible if True,

[The moyesiah]

During these times it is not uncommon for players to drop (if they have them) or some players getting less time, to save a relegation, or gain promotion, and no club is different, no matter what dribble they want to pretend to say. The coach is acting for the growth of his club, the experience for his players, and himself of course, unfortunately not many see that, all they see is a win at all costs coach.

This will possibly be ended with a new structure for the relegation side, however it will continue under the new structure for the possible top 3 clubs, as clubs, coaches, and players, will want to win that also.

My son played in a JPL-B championship side, he was a subber, the following year that same team turned into two teams, so did that promotion help or hurt his club? I can bet you if they didn't get that A spot there would not be 2 teams, or the extra $7500 that was produced by 15 extra fees of $500. The next year the boy ended up Captain of the second side, played a full season, rarely subbed, and kicked a bag of goals for his side and had a great season of development, so it can be a positive in the future.